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  • #7,341
  • May 3, 2017 4:29am May 3, 2017 4:29am
Quoting CrocodileRex
{quote} Gosh, this is ridiculous. Dale called you a "professional" trader Ziggy. There's nothing a salesman won't write to lure up other customers. Ziggy, if you are still reading this thread, come prove to others in this thread you are a "professional" trader lol. And tell us honestly that your 20/20 approach really made "real" money and not some demo money or 0.01 lot positions. Because with $99 a month for the membership, i would expect a better result from his website. So much disappointment still after a night's rest. Dale, man dale, why would...
Crocodile, you have a choice and this is the wrong one to take to start attacking people that have in this forum done nothing but help others. I fully support Dale's decision to go commercial and yes I am aware of peoples post trying to discredit him, but honestly we are all adults, we must be if we have taken a decision to trade.
I really don't understand what you are trying to achieve other than be added to the ignore list.
It is bad enough that we tackle trading without turning on each other. I am hoping that these kind of messages thin out now and we all get back to helping each other which is what forum's like this are for and not turning on each other like a pack of wild animals at a feeding frenzy.
Take 1 step forward, two small steps back
  • #7,342
  • May 3, 2017 5:20am May 3, 2017 5:20am
Hi ziggy, thanks for all your help for the last 3-4 mths. Really appreciate your effort
Quoting ziggy
{quote} ok - this is most likely my final post in this thread and probably also on FF, I have nothing to hide and so will say it how it is right now. First of I liked the way Dale was setting up his trades, got into the thread early and so didn't have to read 1000's of posts to get the flavour, and as far as I am concerned because of what I "know" (as much as anyone can know) that this style of trading has an edge. I have my own way of trading which is completely different and addresses a different market, I wanted to be part of something that I...
  • #7,343
  • May 3, 2017 5:33am May 3, 2017 5:33am
Quoting DrBeercan
{quote} Crocodile, you have a choice and this is the wrong one to take to start attacking people that have in this forum done nothing but help others. I fully support Dale's decision to go commercial and yes I am aware of peoples post trying to discredit him, but honestly we are all adults, we must be if we have taken a decision to trade. I really don't understand what you are trying to achieve other than be added to the ignore list. It is bad enough that we tackle trading without turning on each other. I am hoping that these kind of messages thin...
You are right. Everyone has a choice. I just felt that i was being played by dale. Feeding us daily levels until we are hooked. Then cut off the source and force you to pay $99 per month to get the daily levels. Who am i kidding, everyone here is to get your money.

Anyway, i will leave this thread too. All threads in the commercial sections are crap anyway.
  • #7,344
  • May 3, 2017 6:15am May 3, 2017 6:15am
Quoting CrocodileRex
{quote} You are right. Everyone has a choice. I just felt that i was being played by dale. Feeding us daily levels until we are hooked. Then cut off the source and force you to pay $99 per month to get the daily levels. Who am i kidding, everyone here is to get your money. Anyway, i will leave this thread too. All threads in the commercial sections are crap anyway.
So you won't pay 99$ out of your trading profit from the signals?
Adriaaaaan
  • #7,345
  • May 3, 2017 6:15am May 3, 2017 6:15am
Hello my friends! Here is my today's trading: http://trader-dale.com/recent-forex-trades/
You can compare your levels to mine if you want.
btw. Ziggy's method of 20/20 was working really nicely recently. I think you can happily apply it not just to my levels but to yours as well.
Have a great day and be careful because of the FOMC! I probably won't take any more intraday levels today because of it.
  • #7,346
  • May 3, 2017 6:18am May 3, 2017 6:18am
Quoting FX-Flux
{quote} Sorry to say that one didn't work out. However, second level was nice if only had been using the ziggy method for both haha. {image}
Yea, that would have been cool.
I got lucky and didn't take the first trade because I usually don't trade late NY session. I think that intraday levels don't work that good in this part of day. Just my feeling - I made no backtest/research on that.
  • #7,347
  • May 3, 2017 6:36am May 3, 2017 6:36am
Quoting CrocodileRex
{quote} You are right. Everyone has a choice. I just felt that i was being played by dale. Feeding us daily levels until we are hooked. Then cut off the source and force you to pay $99 per month to get the daily levels. Who am i kidding, everyone here is to get your money. Anyway, i will leave this thread too. All threads in the commercial sections are crap anyway.
Anyhow, all your disappointment, all your frustration about Dale does not give you the right to attack somebody else in the way you did, in my decent opinion, that's bad style.
  • #7,348
  • May 3, 2017 6:38am May 3, 2017 6:38am
Quoting ziggy
{quote} ok - this is most likely my final post in this thread and probably also on FF, I have nothing to hide and so will say it how it is right now. First of I liked the way Dale was setting up his trades, got into the thread early and so didn't have to read 1000's of posts to get the flavour, and as far as I am concerned because of what I "know" (as much as anyone can know) that this style of trading has an edge. I have my own way of trading which is completely different and addresses a different market, I wanted to be part of something that I...
Thanks Ziggy for your dedication and effort, much appreciated.
All the best!
cheers
  • #7,349
  • Edited 8:39am May 3, 2017 7:12am | Edited 8:39am
@Ziggy

Although you haven't replied to me personally, I am the member that asked you to explain your position on "Dale" labeling you a "professional trader". Firstly, I want to say that I believe it was right to ask your view on that and under similar circumstances I would do the same again. Nevertheless, your response was considered and straightforward and I'd like to thank you for clearing the matter up. If your prior post is to be your last ever on FF then I wish you well.

@Trader-Dale

Perhaps you'll consider taking a note out of "Ziggy's" book and address the following:

1. Your FF profile page lists you as trading from Switzerland, but Trader-Dale.com is registered in the Czech Republic.
Where are you trading from?

2. For the past 6 months or so you've introduced yourself as "Dale", however, your website "Trader-Dale.com" is registered to Ondřej Zbranek.
What is your real name? Is it Dale, or is it Ondřej Zbranek?

In April you were punting your (free at the time) signals to the subscriber base of various other threads on FF. But of course your paying website is now live with you charging a year's membership of $799.00. One doesn't need to be a mathematician to understand that only one-hundred yearly subscribers will immediately net you close on $80,000.00, which is not an inconsiderable amount of money. And so again, I ask the question, who are you? Are you Dale, or are you Ondřej? Or are you neither person?

@ everyone else

I want to state again that I have no problem with people earning a living via trading "education"/signals etc. This is also not about "Dale's" signals and whether or not they "work". This is just about simple discrepancies in the identity and locale of a person asking for money that should be a reg flag to everyone. I sincerely hope "Dale" proves me wrong. We shall see; the truth, as they say, does not fear investigation.

If you wish to attack me for this post that's fine, go ahead. But in your defence of "Dale" I would urge you not to be pavlovian. Please stick to facts.
  • #7,350
  • May 3, 2017 7:36am May 3, 2017 7:36am
Quoting simond2002
@Ziggy Although you haven't replied to me personally, I am the member that asked you to explain your position on "Dale" labeling you a "professional trader". Firstly, I want to say that I believe it was right to ask your view on that and under similar circumstances I would do the same again. Nevertheless, your response was considered and straightforward and I'd like to thank you for clearing the matter up. If your prior post is to be your last ever on FF then I wish you well. @Trader-Dale Perhaps you'll consider taking a note out of "Ziggy's" book...
What you are pointing out is absolutely irrelevant.

How 'Dale' wishes to market himself has zero relevance.

When you buy a mr. kipling cake, do you return it to the shop when you realise that the company is owned by rank hovis mcdougall, and mr kipling does not exist?

What is relevant is that it is a cake that meets the expectations advertised relevant to the function of a 'cake'.

It has already been proven that what dale is providing meets the expectations advertised relevent to the function of a 'profitable system'

So whats this witchhunt all really about? Because I'm baffled
Adriaaaaan
  • #7,351
  • May 3, 2017 7:39am May 3, 2017 7:39am
my thoughts today about 'Dale'

I am just once again disappointed that people are unable to be straight forward about things.
I look with interest that 'Dale' has NOT addressed these questions of his location and name, even though he has posted since these things were brought up. IF he perhaps lives in Switzerland and just for some reason setup his webpage in CZ, then he should have addressed that here. If he used a different name for some reason, he should have addressed that....if he is an honest person that is. Failure to address these issues causes me concern about his integrity.

For years i have known that most people misrepresent many things....human nature. Here on FF i have found far too many times that traders 'pretend' about much...their success, their identity, etc etc.

Long time traders know this far too well. New traders, please make yourself aware and just be cautious. I reiterate there is nothing wrong with paying subscriptions for trading help BUT just know who you are paying money to.

Never become dependent on getting info about WHERE to make a trade. Instead LEARN how to FIND those levels yourself. What you want to pay for is learning how to trade.
  • #7,352
  • May 3, 2017 7:46am May 3, 2017 7:46am
Quoting pipps
my thoughts today about 'Dale' I am just once again disappointed that people are unable to be straight forward about things. I look with interest that 'Dale' has NOT addressed these questions of his location and name, even though he has posted since these things were brought up. IF he perhaps lives in Switzerland and just for some reason setup his webpage in CZ, then he should have addressed that here. If he used a different name for some reason, he should have addressed that....if he is an honest person that is. Failure to address these issues...
agree

maybe 'Dale' it's a company instead an individual..
  • #7,353
  • May 3, 2017 7:50am May 3, 2017 7:50am
Quoting Johnramb0
{quote} What you are pointing out is absolutely irrelevant. How 'Dale' wishes to market himself has zero relevance. When you buy a mr. kipling cake, do you return it to the shop when you realise that the company is owned by rank hovis mcdougall, and mr kipling does not exist? What is relevant is that it is a cake that meets the expectations advertised relevant to the function of a 'cake'. It has already been proven that what dale is providing meets the expectations advertised relevent to the function of a 'profitable system' So whats this witchhunt...
I think pipps in post 7,351 has addressed most of your points but let me ask you a question because your cake analogy is flawed. If you paid for a Mr. Kipling cake that turned out to be Tesco's own brand would you feel deceived?
  • #7,354
  • May 3, 2017 7:55am May 3, 2017 7:55am
Quoting Johnramb0
{quote} So you won't pay 99$ out of your trading profit from the signals?
Where is the profit? Have we seen ANY live account in profit following Dale? If I have missed it, please, share the link.
Please add more indicators, I still see the real price! Thanks!
  • #7,355
  • May 3, 2017 8:06am May 3, 2017 8:06am
BTW, Dale commercial interest was very obvious.
Internet marketing people saw that coming, I guess.

I´m also a sales person by my occupation, but I hate scams and sophisticated sale to sell something people do not need (so YOU could profit out of it) - a decent person just won´t do that. Sharky behavior isn't what a real and good salesman do. But it is what 90%+ do nowadays. Sad.

There were some people in this thread a long time ago, but they got beaten up by illusion followers.

Fakebuster - remember him? No?

My PM box:

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Please add more indicators, I still see the real price! Thanks!
  • #7,356
  • May 3, 2017 8:10am May 3, 2017 8:10am
I have been using this strategy for almost 14 months now, I know a few other traders that work for prop firms that use eerily similar strategy to this. However, all I am gonna say is that this strategy works and is geared mostly towards futures because spreads in FX will be the factor that will determine whether u r a breakeven trader or making money.
  • #7,357
  • May 3, 2017 8:26am May 3, 2017 8:26am
Quoting simond2002
{quote} I think pipps in post 7,351 has addressed most of your points but let me ask you a question because your cake analogy is flawed. If you paid for a Mr. Kipling cake that turned out to be Tesco's own brand would you feel deceived?
It's not flawed.

If it tastes and looks and has exact ingredients to a mr kiplings cake then no.

Others may disagree and that is down to emotional attachment to a brand. I hardly think anyone sees mr kipling as a status brand and if you do then you need to get out more. In the case of 'trader dale' there is no established brand for any emotional attachment and to be honest who gives a cares if there was. All that matters is you are making money from the signals as advertised. This has already been proven by ziggy with every single entry, exit, date and time etc from dale plotted on a spread sheet showing the profit loss available for anyone to download in this thread. If that's not enough proof for anyone then don;t know what is. And don't say equity curve because that can be faked easily by using someone elses trades.
Adriaaaaan
  • #7,358
  • May 3, 2017 8:28am May 3, 2017 8:28am
Quoting Crackpot
{quote} Where is the profit? Have we seen ANY live account in profit following Dale? If I have missed it, please, share the link.
Ziggy has a spreadsheet showing every entry exit profit etc. Search this thread and download it.
Adriaaaaan
  • #7,359
  • May 3, 2017 8:31am May 3, 2017 8:31am
Quoting Johnramb0
All that matters is you are making money from the signals as advertised. This has already been proven by ziggy with every single entry, exit, date and time etc from dale plotted on a spread sheet showing the profit loss available for anyone to download in this thread. If that's not enough proof for anyone then don;t know what is.
So there you go. Sign up, fund your account and enjoy
  • #7,360
  • May 3, 2017 8:36am May 3, 2017 8:36am
Quoting Trader-Dale
Hello my friends! Here is my today's trading: http://trader-dale.com/recent-forex-trades/ You can compare your levels to mine if you want. btw. Ziggy's method of 20/20 was working really nicely recently. I think you can happily apply it not just to my levels but to yours as well. Have a great day and be careful because of the FOMC! I probably won't take any more intraday levels today because of it.
Hi dale.... thanks for the update...

I saw you had a AUDUSD short....
First the POCS went up....and normally you are then waiting for a long if price comes back....? Why now different?
Anyway the second problem here is that you started the trade exactly at a balanced area......? At that time price can do anything (it is balanced and is just waiting for new info to go out of balance). Well that was also happened! the wrong way at first, later you were lucky because the VAH of yesterdays profile was seen as resistance (0.7544) price was out of balance here ...saw resistance and bounced.

That's my view of this trade.. see also the screenshot, hope it is clear what I mentioned...

It's not ment to bash you...no not at all I just don't understand your discussion in this trad.... normally I do....
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