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  • #641
  • Apr 28, 2017 10:33pm Apr 28, 2017 10:33pm
Quoting redfan
{quote} Yes, that's fine. I've deleted the post, hope I have not offended you. I can only apologise.
its okay,thanks
  • #642
  • Apr 29, 2017 2:59am Apr 29, 2017 2:59am
Quoting zentrader8
{quote} Right now we only open the first trade, and we didnt open the second trade, and also without martiangle. just simply open the first trade, and accept it whatever the results is.trade again the next day.
Thanks for your reply. I agree that so far these are the best rules.
  • #643
  • Apr 29, 2017 3:04am Apr 29, 2017 3:04am
Quoting Grimweasel
Ok, the key is the Volatility of the pair (expressed by the ATR). There is little point having a stop loss inside the period ATR. You'll get hit too often. I have just manually back tested EurUsd from 30 Jan to 17 Apr. I have some minor changes to the way I now trade. I use a 24 period moving (1 day on an H1 chart) average as trend filter. Buy only if price above. Sell only if price below. If the 0600-0700 candle touches the ema - then apply the normal Zen rules but with 1x ATR stop and 10 pip target. If price > ema then...
This method needs probably further evaluation. During the last week brought to three consecutive losses, one positive result and one no trade, ending up with negative pips.
  • #644
  • Edited Apr 30, 2017 12:22am Apr 29, 2017 4:18am | Edited Apr 30, 2017 12:22am
###ZenTrader EA V09

Please read post # 576 for the rules.

Quoting grandaevus
I'm going to code a new ea that will use Market Orders instead of pending stop orders . High spread won't trigger BuysTop orders anymore.
Now ea uses Market Orders for entries.

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Most Important Setting is "StartTradingTime" (default 9:00)

It's Frankfurt Open Time which is 1 hour before London Session Opening Time.

This value has to be set in accordance with your Broker's Market Watch Time.

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  • #645
  • Apr 29, 2017 11:58am Apr 29, 2017 11:58am
Quoting Sanbernardin
{quote} This method needs probably further evaluation. During the last week brought to three consecutive losses, one positive result and one no trade, ending up with negative pips.
Ill review later but I didn't have 3 losses. If you take a random 3 month back test from any historical period you will see the ma filter keeps you out of more losing trades than the original method. You need to pick a period and then walk forward each day capturing the results for both methods. This will give you greater confidence
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  • #646
  • Apr 29, 2017 11:59am Apr 29, 2017 11:59am
Quoting grandaevus
###ZenTrader EA V09 Please read post # 576 for the rules. {quote} Now ea uses Market Orders for entries. {image} Most Important Setting is "StartTradingTime" (default 9:00) It's Frankfurt Open Time which is 1 hour before London Session Opening Time. This value has to be set in accordance with your Broker's Market Watch Time. {image} {file}
grear stuff thanks Grand. Will load up later. Top drawer stuff.
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  • #647
  • May 1, 2017 4:12am May 1, 2017 4:12am
Quoting grandaevus
###ZenTrader EA V09 Please read post # 576 for the rules. {quote} Now ea uses Market Orders for entries. {image} Most Important Setting is "StartTradingTime" (default 9:00) It's Frankfurt Open Time which is 1 hour before London Session Opening Time. This value has to be set in accordance with your Broker's Market Watch Time. {image} {file}

Thanks grand, will try the EA.
  • #648
  • May 1, 2017 8:06am May 1, 2017 8:06am
today trade buystop @1.0900 take profit @1.0910
profit taken,green pips today.
  • #649
  • May 1, 2017 2:47pm May 1, 2017 2:47pm
Quoting Grimweasel
{quote} Ill review later but I didn't have 3 losses. If you take a random 3 month back test from any historical period you will see the ma filter keeps you out of more losing trades than the original method. You need to pick a period and then walk forward each day capturing the results for both methods. This will give you greater confidence

Thanks for the advice, which I will follow.
The week from 24th to 28th april I detected anyway 1 negative, 1 positive and three no trade with the new method and 5 positive trades with Zen method.
Am I correct?
  • #650
  • May 2, 2017 2:03am May 2, 2017 2:03am
Loss this morning with eurusd with Zen method
  • #651
  • May 2, 2017 2:10am May 2, 2017 2:10am
i still not.open the trade, because now i used smoothed 5 and 10 to filter the trade.only trade the ma direction ,do not against the ma.
open buystop @1.0930.
tp @1.0940 sl @1.0917.
lets see
  • #652
  • May 2, 2017 2:13am May 2, 2017 2:13am
Quoting Sanbernardin
Loss this morning with eurusd with Zen method
i look at the price,how many pips sl.do you use?
i think you suppose not lose yet ,the price trigger @1.0910 and go up to 1.09216.the sl suppose not hit yet.
  • #653
  • May 2, 2017 3:09am May 2, 2017 3:09am
Quoting zentrader8
i still not.open the trade, because now i used smoothed 5 and 10 to filter the trade.only trade the ma direction ,do not against the ma. open buystop @1.0930. tp @1.0940 sl @1.0917. lets see

Can you clarify in details whst are the currents rules? Thanks
  • #654
  • May 2, 2017 8:48pm May 2, 2017 8:48pm
Quoting Sanbernardin
{quote} Can you clarify in details whst are the currents rules? Thanks
'the rules is use the candle one hour before london open,mark the high and low and trade the 00 level after it.
but for the filter there is no exact rules about it.,just create your filter and.try the optimize it.
as for now i use smoothed ma 5 and 10 period to filter the bad trades.
as for others maybe they are using different method to filter the bad trade.
  • #655
  • May 2, 2017 8:57pm May 2, 2017 8:57pm
Original Rule 1 was profitable yesterday. Made 10pips after five or six hours as EURUSD pair was caught in a range
  • #656
  • May 3, 2017 4:15am May 3, 2017 4:15am
Quoting k2v77
Original Rule 1 was profitable yesterday. Made 10pips after five or six hours as EURUSD pair was caught in a range
yes.today if you use original rules without filter it also will be profit,original rules should open trade sell stop @1.0920 and should took profit already @1.0910.
  • #657
  • May 3, 2017 7:16am May 3, 2017 7:16am
Quoting grandaevus
###ZenTrader EA V09 Please read post # 576 for the rules. {quote} Now ea uses Market Orders for entries. {image} Most Important Setting is "StartTradingTime" (default 9:00) It's Frankfurt Open Time which is 1 hour before London Session Opening Time. This value has to be set in accordance with your Broker's Market Watch Time. {image} {file}
Hi Grand

The EA took an incorrect trade this morning on EU? Any ideas why? It bought EU at the bottom of the H1 candle when it should have invoked Rule 2 and bought at 1.0937 and not 1.0925? I'm using the 0900 candle buy, 24 ema and rule 1 and rule 2

Best
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  • #658
  • May 4, 2017 2:42am May 4, 2017 2:42am
Today trade using original rules and ma 5 &10 as a filter sell stop @1.0890 sl @ 1.0903 tp already @1.0880.
done for today,Green pips today.
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  • #659
  • May 4, 2017 3:10am May 4, 2017 3:10am
Quoting zentrader8
Today trade using original rules and ma 5 &10 as a filter sell stop @1.0890 sl @ 1.0903 tp already @1.0880. done for today,Green pips today. {image}

I notice you are using Zen trader EA V8. Have we now abandoned the Zen trader EA V9.
Can you tell us what the differences is in the two EA,
thank you,
  • #660
  • May 4, 2017 3:31am May 4, 2017 3:31am
Quoting zentrader8
Today trade using original rules and ma 5 &10 as a filter sell stop @1.0890 sl @ 1.0903 tp already @1.0880. done for today,Green pips today. {image}
Yea. Original Rule 1 was profitable today but the modified Rule 2 was in red today. Will keep doing forward test
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