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  • #3,521
  • Apr 30, 2017 5:07am Apr 30, 2017 5:07am
Quoting rohit.dwd32
Hi All, Below is my analysis on an Indian stock 'JustDial'. Please share your valuable thoughts. thanks {image} {image} {image}
Hello rohit
Well done sir. Quick learning.

some thoughts.....

best wishes
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  • #3,522
  • Apr 30, 2017 10:59am Apr 30, 2017 10:59am
Hello AKT sir,
Below is my analysis on an Indian stock 'Hindalco'. Please share your valuable thoughts.
I need to confirm that, If stock has a short bias?

thanks
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  • #3,523
  • Apr 30, 2017 4:07pm Apr 30, 2017 4:07pm
im recently new to supply and demand trading


i like supply and demand as the zones are drawn in advance, visually it helps me identify areas of interest on the charts

my question is

1 do you guys apply strong weak currency analysis to supply and demand

2 does anyone apply any divergence systems to the mix

i know supply and demand is mainly indicator free and personally i like my charts naked , but having been taught how to trade divergence im interested to know if anyone is applying divergence or strong weak analysis

cheers ally

ps there is currently sell 1h divergence on gby/ jpy - gbp /aud gbp/usd gbp/nzd gpb/cad 10am gmt

i know its not a big time frame but hope it helps anyone thinking to short the gbp
  • #3,524
  • Apr 30, 2017 4:34pm Apr 30, 2017 4:34pm
I'm looking for a mentor to teach me how to trade. How much are you charging for mentoring? I'm interested if it's affordable but have questions because I have been scammed in the past so I trust nobody online.

How long have you been trading for and how long have you been teaching? Are you self taught or are you qualified?
whats covered in this mentorship and could you explain the structure of it. I'm a full time student and work on weekends so not a lot of spare time on my hands.
  • #3,525
  • May 1, 2017 1:21am May 1, 2017 1:21am
Quoting Winston2017
im recently new to supply and demand trading i like supply and demand as the zones are drawn in advance, visually it helps me identify areas of interest on the charts my question is 1 do you guys apply strong weak currency analysis to supply and demand 2 does anyone apply any divergence systems to the mix i know supply and demand is mainly indicator free and personally i like my charts naked , but having been taught how to trade divergence im interested to know if anyone is applying divergence or strong weak analysis cheers ally ps there is currently...
Hello Winston2017
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you.

If i may respond to you inquiry please,

1. One of the great things about supply and demand is that it is a methodology applicable to all asset classes whose prices can be charted ie stocks, options, forex, futures, bitcoin even . It is used as the core of an approach to the Markets.

2. There is a myth around supply and demand that it is sort of anti-indicators. That could not be further from the truth actually.

Supply and demand as a methodology, a basis for decision making in the markets, can be layered with the use of other available information derived from any indicator the trader knows and understands.
Now, please notice what i said, "the basis for decision making" is supply and demand. That is the difference between the S.A.D trader using indicators and another trader whose basis for decision making is the indicators. The S.A.D trader uses supply and demand and confirms with any indicator he/she likes. He/she does not buy or sell based on what the indicator is doing but based on supply and demand analysis. He/she will still take a trade based on Supply and demand even if the indicator does not agree with with him/her. He/she uses the indicator as another confirmatory tool that though is good to have, is not necessary to have.

3. Strong and weak analysis, divergence trading, etc will all be useful for anyone trading S.A.D if they have guidelines and protocols in using them. For example, a S.A.D trader who understands that a particular currency though strong, is now sitting in monthly supply because the strength in that currency has brought it up there, may decide not to use set and forget trades shorting that pair but rather, wait for evidence that selling pressure has started to come into that market and then short.

4. Please see some thoughts on the GBPJPY in the chart below. A top down analysis is always required by a S.A.D trader to make a decision.

Welcome again to T.I.O.F.

Best wishes
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  • #3,526
  • May 1, 2017 1:39am May 1, 2017 1:39am
AKT sir, eagerly waiting for your thoughts on my last chart 'Hindalco'.......
  • #3,527
  • May 1, 2017 2:23am May 1, 2017 2:23am
Quoting rohit.dwd32
Hello AKT sir, Below is my analysis on an Indian stock 'Hindalco'. Please share your valuable thoughts. I need to confirm that, If stock has a short bias? thanks {image} {image} {image}
Hello rohit.
Apologies, saw this late

Please remember, these are just my thoughts and not a recommendation to put your hard earned funds to work sir
Yes, with prices reaching big picture supply it is probably not a great time to be looking for longs

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #3,528
  • May 1, 2017 3:40am May 1, 2017 3:40am
thanks for reply akt

yes totally agree with you indicators can work if you know how and when use them ie in conjunction with sad etc

i like using strong/weak analysis as there is no point trading strongly against strong or weak against weak etc

but i just wondered if again this is adding too much to the decision tree of when to trade sad, ie if there is a good sad set up then is it worth looking at strong/weak is sad set up showing one currency is strong and the other weak

using top down i guess you can get clear picture of that pair

i would say im a day trader so 4h 1h timer frames -- would you advise looking for daily /4h zones then scaling down to 1h and check confirmation/entry

many thanks again

ps watched all your videos a good few times - that's what brought me to the thread

ally
  • #3,529
  • May 1, 2017 5:17am May 1, 2017 5:17am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello rohit. Apologies, saw this late Please remember, these are just my thoughts and not a recommendation to put your hard earned funds to work sir Yes, with prices reaching big picture supply it is probably not a great time to be looking for longs best wishes
Thanks AKT sir, for sharing your thoughts. And, no problem with the delayed revert, also I am taking your suggestions on all these charts for educational purposes only, I am not trading these charts, therefore you can share your thoughts in detail.


Thanks
  • #3,530
  • May 1, 2017 5:42am May 1, 2017 5:42am
Hi Akt,
This is my first attempt on top down analysis. Kindly comment for any mistakes done.
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  • #3,531
  • May 1, 2017 7:34am May 1, 2017 7:34am
Good morning, is there any serious SAD trader to skype with about markets?

sincerely, Andres
  • #3,532
  • May 1, 2017 8:19am May 1, 2017 8:19am
Quoting sierra
Hi Akt, This is my first attempt on top down analysis. Kindly comment for any mistakes done. {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Hello Sierra

This may be a first Public attempt but clearly you have been working hard behind the scenes.
Well done!

One note if i may, not so many time frames necessary to do a Multiple time frame analysis. Ideally no more than 3 or 4 for each type of trade one is looking to make

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #3,533
  • May 1, 2017 8:37am May 1, 2017 8:37am
Hello Everyone, My name is Dougie and I have been following this thread for some time now and also watching Akt's videos. I have been trading for 5 years, not consistently. I have made lots a profit also lots of losses. That was until I fell into this thread. To be honest I thought this was BS as I had tried to trade like this before, not knowing I didn't understand and also my ignorance was OP.

Cut long story short, I now make consistent profit and trade my own money plus a family fund that I put together. I'm staying here for life that's what I know lol but a big thank you to Akt, you are one in a BILLION mate.

I will also post my charts up hoping to get better and better, but this thread is fantastic....
  • #3,534
  • May 1, 2017 9:02am May 1, 2017 9:02am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Sierra This may be a first Public attempt but clearly you have been working hard behind the scenes. Well done! One note if i may, not so many time frames necessary to do a Multiple time frame analysis. Ideally no more than 3 or 4 for each type of trade one is looking to make best wishes
thanks so much for your valuable input Akt... guess I've over-drill the analysis ... I'll make it as per recommended in future post.
there still lot of things I need to learn from you and friends here...hope you don't mind to answer my "infant" questions later on...

thanks again akt
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  • #3,535
  • May 1, 2017 9:13am May 1, 2017 9:13am
i think too many time frames can confuse if your waiting for them all to line up

i try to keep it simple with 2 timeframes but obviously be mindful of higher time frame zones

i like entries on 1h or 30m so im looking at 4h from my trend and again being mindful of higher tf,s

when i now add SAD methodology to my existing trading system it has opened my eyes to a different level of understanding, its also a visual thing for me
ive never liked support and res lines etc -- sad look way more better

with being relatively new to sad ive still got a bit of learning re proper levels etc , but my existing knowledge is definitely helping with timing/momentum and level breakdowns etc . ie if market enters 4h zone - scale down and look at price action /momentum for clues if the level is going to hold etc

im sure il have a few questions about what constitutes a proper level ie if its been tested but just slightly will it be a good zone in the future

keep up the good work AKT
  • #3,536
  • May 1, 2017 9:42am May 1, 2017 9:42am
yes you're right... I think we should understand in which trader category we belong to... for a positioned trader 15-min chart is useless but for a day trader or scalper, a 15-min chart is a must before executing a trade... by the way too much analysis may cause analysis-paralysis ... too scared to pull the trigger..
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  • #3,537
  • May 1, 2017 12:06pm May 1, 2017 12:06pm
Hello everyone

I often get a lot of questions about the use of SAD on shorter time frames

Here is a paycheck trade i took today, some off and the rest in management mode

best wishes
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  • #3,538
  • May 1, 2017 12:16pm May 1, 2017 12:16pm
Quoting dougiewins
Hello Everyone, My name is Dougie and I have been following this thread for some time now and also watching Akt's videos. I have been trading for 5 years, not consistently. I have made lots a profit also lots of losses. That was until I fell into this thread. To be honest I thought this was BS as I had tried to trade like this before, not knowing I didn't understand and also my ignorance was OP. Cut long story short, I now make consistent profit and trade my own money plus a family fund that I put together. I'm staying here for life that's what...
Hello dougiewins
Good to meet you
Welcome to T.I.O.F.

Wow, i am so pleased you have found some use for my ramblings on here.
It is good to know people find utility in the material being shared.

Many thanks for the feedback

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #3,539
  • May 1, 2017 12:48pm May 1, 2017 12:48pm
Hello Akt!

Thanks for your time & sharing knowledge. You are doing great job.

Do you have, by any chance, any pdf file, showing in detailes about

SUPPLY & DEMAND in your point of view?? How to recognise ZONES

In any time frame at a glance, sorry if I am asking more. Take care.
  • #3,540
  • May 1, 2017 3:39pm May 1, 2017 3:39pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone I often get a lot of questions about the use of SAD on shorter time frames Here is a paycheck trade i took today, some off and the rest in management mode best wishes{image}{image}
Do you have any rules or tips for trading the shorter time frames that you are willing to share? Trading the open and before news and date seems like vegas to me even with supply demand analysis.
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