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  • #161
  • Apr 30, 2017 6:30am Apr 30, 2017 6:30am
Quoting tobben
{quote} Next available SR, not the old entry SR. see picture below {image}
Hi tobben, Thanks for sharing your system. I have a question about the picture . As i found in your explanation about the system the tp and sl are 1:1 but in the picture if you had selected the (1:1) tp . the tp should hit before and the point you have pointed is something about 2:1 . would you please help me to underestand the system better?
  • #162
  • Apr 30, 2017 7:02am Apr 30, 2017 7:02am
sorry tobben for my questions as i want to underestand the system better , in the EURGBP recovery trade that you explained , hasn't the sl hit at the point i have shown in the picture?

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  • #163
  • Apr 30, 2017 7:49am Apr 30, 2017 7:49am
Quoting kasrafx
sorry tobben for my questions as i want to underestand the system better , in the EURGBP recovery trade that you explained , hasn't the sl hit at the point i have shown in the picture? {image}

I believe this is a trade you would not take if trading by the rules as price action is below the 200 EMA as you pointed out.
  • #164
  • Apr 30, 2017 9:10am Apr 30, 2017 9:10am
Quoting kasrafx
{quote} Hi tobben, Thanks for sharing your system. I have a question about the picture . As i found in your explanation about the system the tp and sl are 1:1 but in the picture if you had selected the (1:1) tp . the tp should hit before and the point you have pointed is something about 2:1 . would you please help me to underestand the system better?
Yes, the PA moved beyond TP. Is just an example.

What's important is that the trade ended in Green.
  • #165
  • Apr 30, 2017 9:13am Apr 30, 2017 9:13am
Quoting kasrafx
sorry tobben for my questions as i want to underestand the system better , in the EURGBP recovery trade that you explained , hasn't the sl hit at the point i have shown in the picture? {image}
Did you noticed that the support has been broken before the BUY entry trigger?

The low which later turned out to be a new support is the SL, so SL didn't HIT.
  • #166
  • Edited 9:51am Apr 30, 2017 9:24am | Edited 9:51am
Hi Tobben

Thank you for your great system. It is fantastic! Really appreciate you sharing this with the world. It certainly is going to add value to my life.

I'm just about catching up with everyone else. So forgive me for my ignorance if this is a silly question.

On Friday you posted these WON trades:
EURCAD = BUY = WON
AUDJPY = BUY = WON
EURGBP = BUY = WON
USDCHF = SELL= WON
EURUSD = BUY = WON
EURAUD = BUY = WON
USDJPY = BUY = WON

I understand your entry with all the above, except for:
EURGBP and USDCHF

EURGBP (EDIT: Nevermind this one - I understand now)
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USDCHF (Not sure about this one)
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Please help me get on the same page as you. Thanks!
  • #167
  • Apr 30, 2017 9:31am Apr 30, 2017 9:31am
Quoting tobben
{quote} Did you noticed that the support has been broken before the BUY entry trigger? The low which later turned out to be a new support is the SL, so SL didn't HIT.
Noted , Thanks tobben
  • #168
  • Edited 11:19am Apr 30, 2017 11:08am | Edited 11:19am
I think that the first trade you shouldn't have open it because as tobben said the creator of the EA open the trade 5 pips above the breakout and in this case the order wouldn't be triggered. So the recovery trade shouldn't exist

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And the second trade should be a loss considering that the s/r appear after 3 candles you should have put your stoploss as in the picture and this trade would be a loss. Unless you change the position of the stoploss but doing that you change the money management ex. You have a 20 pips stoploss and you want to risk only 1% of your account then you change the position of the stoploss at 40 pips stoploss and you risk 2% of your account.
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  • #169
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:18am Apr 30, 2017 11:18am
Quoting samsha786
USDCHF (Not sure about this one) {image} Please help me get on the same page as you. Thanks!
Lets solve the maths together.

Can you spot the last correct entry and its SL on that USDCHF chart ?
Mark the 2 points and post the picture first !
  • #170
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:23am Apr 30, 2017 11:23am
Quoting Giro9
I think that the first trade you shouldn't have open it because as tobben said the creator of the EA open the trade 5 pips above the breakout and in this case the order wouldn't be triggered. So the recovery trade shouldn't exist {image} And the second trade should be a loss considering that the s/r appear after 3 candles you should have put your stoploss as in the picture and this trade would be a loss. Unless you change the position of the stoploss but doing that you change the money management ex. You have a 20 pips stoploss and you want to risk...
hahaha!!

You tried buy the second trade wasn't a loss either.
  • #171
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:25am Apr 30, 2017 11:25am
Quoting Giro9
I think that the first trade you shouldn't have open it because as tobben said the creator of the EA open the trade 5 pips above the breakout and in this case the order wouldn't be triggered. So the recovery trade shouldn't exist {image} And the second trade should be a loss considering that the s/r appear after 3 candles you should have put your stoploss as in the picture and this trade would be a loss. Unless you change the position of the stoploss but doing that you change the money management ex. You have a 20 pips stoploss and you want to risk...
Your entry and stoploss position is wrong!
  • #172
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:27am Apr 30, 2017 11:27am
Quoting tobben
{quote} Your entry and stoploss position is wrong!
Oh no, you said that the stoploss must be above/below the last support or resistance by 5 pips as the entry
  • #173
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:28am Apr 30, 2017 11:28am
Quoting Giro9
{quote} Oh no, you said that the stoploss must be above/below the last support or resistance by 5 pips
You are wrong again !!!!

Anyone else can give it a shot ??
  • #174
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:33am Apr 30, 2017 11:33am
second trade
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  • #175
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:35am Apr 30, 2017 11:35am
Quoting tobben
{quote} no, the creator of shagamic robot actually apply 5pips above breakout and 5pips below sl sr the 5pips varies depending on the pair and volatile market condition
That's what you said
(I don't want to make you angry I want only to understand bettter your system)
  • #176
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:42am Apr 30, 2017 11:42am
Quoting Fernand
second trade {image}
NICE TRY
  • #177
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:45am Apr 30, 2017 11:45am
Quoting Giro9
{quote} That's what you said (I don't want to make you angry I want only to understand bettter your system)
Am not angry, am actually enjoying the discussion

Now here is my chart, PLEASE READ FROM LABEL 1 TO 5 ON THE CHART BELOW
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  • #178
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:48am Apr 30, 2017 11:48am
Thank you very much for the explanation but the story of the 5 pips to enter?
  • #179
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:51am Apr 30, 2017 11:51am
Quoting tobben
{quote} Am not angry, am actually enjoying the discussion Now here is my chart, PLEASE READ FROM LABEL 1 TO 5 ON THE CHART BELOW {image}
So even though the opposite arrow has appeared, the SELL signal is still valid?

In my case, I wouldn't have entered - thinking that the BUY arrow invalidates the previous SELL.

So in other words, as long as price is still below EMA 200, the sell signal is still valid, even though a buy signal appeared afterwards?
  • #180
  • Apr 30, 2017 11:55am Apr 30, 2017 11:55am
Quoting samsha786
{quote} So even though the opposite arrow has appeared, the SELL signal is still valid? In my case, I wouldn't have entered - thinking that the BUY arrow invalidates the previous SELL. So in other words, as long as price is still below EMA 200. The sell signal is still valid, even though a buy signal appeared afterwards?
I think he took the trade because was exactly at the position of the first enter and that trade was still running so the entry was valid
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