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  • #9,001
  • Apr 18, 2017 1:21pm Apr 18, 2017 1:21pm
I guess I'll figure myself
Dreamer
  • #9,002
  • Apr 18, 2017 2:21pm Apr 18, 2017 2:21pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} Dana, but why are you referencing daily smooth as support? Is it because of the opening above it? Does it always work this way?
I believe that the horsemen act like S/R according to the market's position and not only Purple's position. What I mean is: an open/close of candle above/under them is important no matter where Purple is.

But I could be wrong, mind you.

Cheers.
"Know thyself."
  • #9,003
  • Apr 18, 2017 2:26pm Apr 18, 2017 2:26pm
Quoting miau1
{quote} I believe that the horsemen act like S/R according to the market's position and not only Purple's position. What I mean is: an open/close of candle above/under them is important no matter where Purple is. But I could be wrong, mind you. Cheers.
Yeah, as I understand it opening above smooth made it both support and resistance at the same time.
Dreamer
  • #9,004
  • Apr 18, 2017 2:41pm Apr 18, 2017 2:41pm
Quoting dudko777
{quote} Dana, but why are you referencing daily smooth as support? Is it because of the opening above it? Does it always work this way?
Not in the way you are thinking. At opening of the new Daily you had the H1 ROMAR as support and the H2 ROMAR as resistance. This gives up the Daily Smooth as support and the Daily EMA as resistance - calculating roughly 60 pips between the Daily support and resistance. This means waiting on the Daily Smooth support and the H1 ROMAR support for confluence giving up the 40 TP trade. And with my trading plan shows this very fact. This is also called 'total faith' in what is being said on the charts. Both support and resistance is showing you the trade that needs to be taken on the Daily.

The H2 ROMAR was resistance with the market on top of it and it was going nowhere accept sideways until the H1 turns for the slider. The H1 for a short was risky because of the sideway move for the turn on the H1; which would bring the H1 ROMAR closer up and less on the TP. Just remember the Paradox is all about support and resistance. If you spend your time in creating your trading plans and recognize support and resistance on all charts - then you have an advantage of seeing the actual entry between support and resistance.

I hope this had helped you.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #9,005
  • Apr 18, 2017 2:50pm Apr 18, 2017 2:50pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Not in the way you are thinking. At opening of the new Daily you had the H1 ROMAR as support and the H2 ROMAR as resistance. This gives up the Daily Smooth as support and the Daily EMA as resistance - calculating roughly 60 pips between the Daily support and resistance. This means waiting on the Daily Smooth support and the H1 ROMAR support for confluence giving up the 40 TP trade. And with my trading plan shows this very fact. This is also called 'total faith' in what is being said on the charts. Both support and resistance is showing you...
This helped me. In fact, anytime you post your past trading plan it is helpful.

Thank you.
  • #9,006
  • Apr 18, 2017 2:56pm Apr 18, 2017 2:56pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Not in the way you are thinking. At opening of the new Daily you had the H1 ROMAR as support and the H2 ROMAR as resistance. This gives up the Daily Smooth as support and the Daily EMA as resistance - calculating roughly 60 pips between the Daily support and resistance. This means waiting on the Daily Smooth support and the H1 ROMAR support for confluence giving up the 40 TP trade. And with my trading plan shows this very fact. This is also called 'total faith' in what is being said on the charts. Both support and resistance is showing you...
Ok my mind is blown. My understanding so far was smooth crossing purple changes it from resistance to supoort and visa versa.
Never Give Up
  • #9,007
  • Apr 18, 2017 3:22pm Apr 18, 2017 3:22pm
Quoting startearning
{quote} This helped me. In fact, anytime you post your past trading plan it is helpful. Thank you.
I agree. Dana's trading plans are gold for learning
Dreamer
  • #9,008
  • Apr 18, 2017 3:27pm Apr 18, 2017 3:27pm
I am going to re-study the thread because I think I've understood things wrong and maybe messed up some of my notes causing confidence loss on my interpretations, but will be back to the ring when I'm ready ASAP.

Will be watching in the meantime,

Kind regards.
"Know thyself."
  • #9,009
  • Apr 18, 2017 6:34pm Apr 18, 2017 6:34pm
Evaluation: Misread H2 EMA as Resistance when in fact it was Support. Daily candle opened above Smooth - which occurred after my entry. ROMAR breached higher than SL. SL40

I feel if i had of read H2 EMA as support i would have waited for i don't know what sort of entry yet a almost definite passing of H2 ROMAR would have been my interpretation - certainly would not have been capable of anything such as an entry like Dana's explanation nor Chad's.
Having read trade posts above. Do not feel lost. Can now see that a short was riskier than waiting. But am "Stunned" is the word i'm looking for in that there was a long in there at all.

A simple error on my part plus a new scenario for me. Thank you for your lesson's kind people.
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  • #9,010
  • Apr 18, 2017 7:11pm Apr 18, 2017 7:11pm
& again
Never give up.

Date: Eur/Jpy 1000 Sydney Time
CHECK NEWS RELEASE BEFORE TRADING Yes
- if No...... STOP .....do not proceed with Plan
Daily:
ROMAR - Resistance
EMA - Resistance
PSAR - Resistance
Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing Down
Last EMA Alert Arrow Down
Last DB Attachment 114.840
Fibo up or down Up
Notes: Full Down Trend. SAR close to & below EMA = 23.6 Fibo
2 HR:
OPEN PRICE - 116.343
ROMAR - Resistance
EMA - Support
PSAR - Support
Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing Up
Last EMA Alert Arrow Up
Last DB Attachment 116.478 Magenta box. DB Currently on 116.485
Fibo up or down Down
Notes: Consolidated ROMAR Down Trend. EMA Very close to ROMAR probably crossing next candle, 4 Horsemen aligned for the up. DB attached with SAR.
1 HR:
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Support
PSAR - Support
Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing Up
Last EMA Alert Arrow Up
Last DB Attachment N/A on 1hr charts
Fibo up or down Down
Notes: Full Up Trend. MACD just crossed on current candle. Purple sliding over top of white.
Market News For EUR/JPY/USA. USA in 14 hrs
Final Notes: Consolidation. Daily Full Down trend. Daily open at EMA. H2 EMA about to cross H2 ROMAR when it does it will be support = full up trend on the H2 & probably the H1.
Entry: Long on confirmed crossing of H2 ROMAR & EMA & H1 full up trend confluence - target possibly Daily PSAR.
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  • #9,011
  • Apr 18, 2017 7:22pm Apr 18, 2017 7:22pm
Traders – I have talked about sync many, many times throughout this thread. Sync with ROMAR; sync with EMA; sync with the 4 Horsemen. I also talked about sync of one chart to another, and the power of these syncs in regards as for swings, sliders, and reversals.

The mistakes I am finding with most of you is on your trading plans. You write down supports and resistance but not elaborating with each one. In other words; what each support and resistance on each chart is really saying. How does each S/R relate with one another on the designated chart and with the other charts. The problem is not seeing each bar in the moment. The moment is the bar you are creating your trading plan for each chart.

It is that very bar you create your trading plan on is telling you the future. What happened in the past is dead and gone. The future is still waiting for you and the Paradox is telling you the future. If you don't spend the time studying in what the Paradox is saying – then you will miss the boat.

It is very IMPORTANT to study the S/R on EACH CHART in creating your trading plans. It is IMPORTANT in seeing and recognizing syncs on EACH CHART. Once you have recognizing everything on each chart – then the H2 will take you into the trade.

You cannot – under any circumstances be bias. You have to always be open minded in trading long and short. If you are open minded then you will be able to see both ways for a trade. Especially in consolidation. Being bias will only destroy you as a trader.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #9,012
  • Apr 18, 2017 10:32pm Apr 18, 2017 10:32pm
Quoting dove_alliance
Traders I have talked about sync many, many times throughout this thread. Sync with ROMAR; sync with EMA; sync with the 4 Horsemen. I also talked about sync of one chart to another, and the power of these syncs in regards as for swings, sliders, and reversals. The mistakes I am finding with most of you is on your trading plans. You write down supports and resistance but not elaborating with each one. In other words; what each support and resistance on each chart is really saying. How does each S/R relate with one another on the designated chart...
Thank you Dove.
I'm not sure if you're disappointed in my plan for today and wished to guide me in the correct direction as if i'm making the same mistakes over and over and hoping i would learn and adjust my plan. Am trying not to repeat same mistakes & learn from each and everyone i fail at, plus the successes. If i may elaborate on today's plan in order to demonstrate my thought processes - just in case you are trying to support me during today's posted plan & for which i am grateful for each and every single one of your inputs & supporting us all throughout the thread. It must be very frustrating for you at times.

I have entered as per plan and shall see it through as is my normal practice. Sometimes i make adjustments to plans. Not today.

My reasonings are:- PT with H2 candle on Smooth Support & with EMA crossing ROMAR to both be support, H2 MACD & EMA arows up, H1 MACD & EMA down, H2 DB attached with Magenta box with also a SAR, plus for confluence the H1 hit on PSAR & H1 ROMAR & EMA also Support. Both the H1 & H2 are in sync Full Up Trend with both charts having the 4 horsemen for the up - but noticeably the H2 & H1 charts are opposite to the Daily which is a Full Down Trend and a SAR attached at the EMA. The Daily currently has an Up arrow on the MACD. In regards to the Daily is at EMA Resistance = roughly H2 ROMAR and open daily candle under EMA. However due to the sync of the H2 & H1 it seems reasonable from my point of view that the Daily EMA will not hold it's resistance because all of the above and particularly the H2 ROMAR cross of EMA. Maybe i should be waiting until the close of the current candle for the H2 ROMAR/EMA cross. I'm thinking my entry is in the moment in the latter regard & not just being trigger happy.

If I have made an error the only place i can see it occurring is due to the open daily candle being under EMA. Why this counters the H2 & H1 sync up trend would be insightful. I don't believe I have entered long just because yesterday was a long and 2 previous Daily candles were up & i had a follow suit kind of mentality. Trying to trade for what i see & not wanting to make up my own rules as i go.

Would appreciate your input later, afterwards, so as not to disturb others who have a plan and have not posted it as yet.
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  • #9,013
  • Apr 19, 2017 2:50am Apr 19, 2017 2:50am
[quote=OliveBranch;9773259]& again Never give up. Date: Eur/Jpy 1000 Sydney Time CHECK NEWS RELEASE BEFORE TRADING Yes - if No...... STOP .....do not proceed with Plan Daily: ROMAR - Resistance EMA - Resistance PSAR - Resistance Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing Down Last EMA Alert Arrow Down Last DB Attachment 114.840 Fibo up or down Up Notes: Full Down Trend. ...

Evaluation: PT open candle on H2 Smooth plus open candle with preceding H1 candle hit on H1 PSAR confluence.
At the time of PT i felt confident of what i was doing was correct and true to the Paradox. After PT i returned to thread to study & noticed Dove had posted an education snippet for people just after my plan was posted. I then made a choice => & chose to get paranoid big time thinking it was maybe a reference to include my current plan as well as the previously posted plans.
Kept to the plan to see through to the end as per usual.
Not sure if this was a good plan as am still quite paranoid i was maybe trigger happy and not reading this scenario correctly today.
In this instance TP40.
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  • #9,014
  • Apr 19, 2017 8:38am Apr 19, 2017 8:38am
OK OliveBranch here is your trading plan with my notes attached and highlighted in yellow.

Date: Eur/Jpy 1000 Sydney Time
CHECK NEWS RELEASE BEFORE TRADING Yes
- if No...... STOP .....do not proceed with Plan

Daily:
ROMAR - Resistance
EMA - Resistance
PSAR - Resistance
Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing Down
Last EMA Alert Arrow Down
Last DB Attachment 114.840
Fibo up or down Up
Notes: Full Down Trend. SAR close to & below EMA = 23.6 Fibo

My Notes White crossing Purple with Opening at EMA resistance. Smooth holding support. SAR attached on top at 116.593 with the Parabolic roughly 75 pips as resistance. Green Arrow for entry long.

2 HR:
OPEN PRICE - 116.343
ROMAR - Resistance
EMA - Support
PSAR - Support
Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing Up
Last EMA Alert Arrow Up
Last DB Attachment 116.478 Magenta box. DB Currently on 116.485
Fibo up or down Down
Notes: Consolidated ROMAR Down Trend. EMA Very close to ROMAR probably crossing next candle, 4 Horsemen aligned for the up. DB attached with SAR.

My Notes: ROMAR at EMA crossing for an uptrend. Parabolic and EMA strong for the uptrend with the Parabolic as support. DB/SAR attached on top at 116.593 with no Green divergence.

1 HR:
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Support
PSAR - Support
Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing Up
Last EMA Alert Arrow Up
Last DB Attachment N/A on 1hr charts
Fibo up or down Down
Notes: Full Up Trend. MACD just crossed on current candle. Purple sliding over top of white.

My Notes: ROMAR support for the uptrend with the market ranging between 35 and 40 pips with the Parabolic holding as support.

Market News For EUR/JPY/USA. USA in 14 hrs

Final Notes: Consolidation. Daily Full Down trend. Daily open at EMA. H2 EMA about to cross H2 ROMAR when it does it will be support = full up trend on the H2 & probably the H1.

My Final Notes: With the new Daily Opening at EMA and the SAR attached I would be looking for the SAR retracement on the low side above Purple after hitting the Daily Parabolic. With the DB and divergence attached on the '0' Fibo indicating a new Daily uptrend. The H2 is just above the ROMAR support. The H1 is ranging and be looking for a hit on the H1 Parabolic H2 EMA for an entry long.

Entry: Long on confirmed crossing of H2 ROMAR & EMA & H1 full up trend confluence - target possibly Daily PSAR.

Your Reason for Entry: My reasonings are:- PT with H2 candle on Smooth Support & with EMA crossing ROMAR to both be support, H2 MACD & EMA arows up, H1 MACD & EMA down, H2 DB attached with Magenta box with also a SAR, plus for confluence the H1 hit on PSAR & H1 ROMAR & EMA also Support. Both the H1 & H2 are in sync Full Up Trend with both charts having the 4 horsemen for the up - but noticeably the H2 & H1 charts are opposite to the Daily which is a Full Down Trend and a SAR attached at the EMA. The Daily currently has an Up arrow on the MACD. In regards to the Daily is at EMA Resistance = roughly H2 ROMAR and open daily candle under EMA. However due to the sync of the H2 & H1 it seems reasonable from my point of view that the Daily EMA will not hold it's resistance because all of the above and particularly the H2 ROMAR cross of EMA. Maybe i should be waiting until the close of the current candle for the H2 ROMAR/EMA cross. I'm thinking my entry is in the moment in the latter regard & not just being trigger happy.

Not being critical OliveBranch but I would say your reasoning for entry is pretty much far left. Strictly analytical I would say but the trend is up and you pulled the trigger in the right direction. You need to gather a mindset that is simple in regards to the trend and being objective with the trend. The objectivity is support and resistance nothing more; nothing less. Keeping your trading plan simple surrounding support and resistance will help your mindset focus on the trend with confidence; instead of hoping, guessing, and a maybe.

I suggest in studying this trading plan and figure out what negativity is being subjective and eliminate this type of thinking. If you do this will help you during consolidations with swings, ranging, and sliders in seeing the right entries.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #9,015
  • Apr 19, 2017 11:49am Apr 19, 2017 11:49am
Quoting tullegate
I hope everyone had an amazing Easter Weekend! "With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all" - Acts 4:33 EURJPY TRADING PLAN - April 17, 2017 DAILY ROMAR - Resistance EMA - Resistance PSAR - Resistance Notes: Balance has been accomplished on the Daily, as EURJPY has touched purple. The 4 horsemen are shooting down with green fib. Also, divergence with SAR and DB have attached at 114.840. SAR has also attached to 116.192 (without DB). Lastly, the EMAx...
This resulted in a losing trade. I should have followed my intuition and my gut, and went long. I even wrote it in my 2H notes. Once I saw the SAR detach, and then the DB on top of the SAR (top of a candle), I knew it would have been smart to go long.

Anyways, this wasn't a wise trade.

I apologize for letting my teachers down.
"Cast your burden upon the Lord and He will sustain you"
  • #9,016
  • Apr 19, 2017 6:04pm Apr 19, 2017 6:04pm
Quoting dove_alliance
OK OliveBranch here is your trading plan with my notes attached and highlighted in yellow. .....(edited out)
Not being critical OliveBranch but I would say your reasoning for entry is pretty much far left. Strictly analytical I would say but the trend is up and you pulled the trigger in the right direction. You need to gather a mindset that is simple in regards to the trend and being objective with the trend. The objectivity is support and resistance nothing more; nothing less. Keeping your trading plan simple surrounding support and resistance...
Thank you Dove. I never think you are being critical of anyone. Healthy constructive methods of teaching is what i see coming from your way at all times.

I acknowledge my long known autistic-like analytical mind hinders much - including of what we are trying to achieve with regards to imagination and trading. Have no idea what far left or far right means - just that this means there is an imbalance & balance must be maintained as per mother nature's rules. My imagination lags in a significant manner, yet am intent on opening up & developing this aspect of living since well before arriving & also since stumbling onto the Paradox thread with objective to search of a way to help my son's poor trading record/poor trading system he was using (please be kind when he finds confidence & reads past page 400 to finally post - he started the same time as myself but finds reading almost impossible - he's got my autism-ism's as well - much sorry in advance - can't help genetics); & am try to apply imagination to Paradox's trading as well as per your suggestions. Since you have brought the imagination side up in giving the trader an edge in a number of your posts, it would be very foolhardy for anyone to ignore. Un-imagination is a hinderance that i hope to turn around through practise, persistence, osmosis & laughter for stress relief. One day i will be more at one with imagination.

I feel that i get it and understand that keeping simple and being objective is support & resistance with objectivity being nothing more or less than that.

I will study this plan to see if i can spot/feel the negativity. Can't see it yet. Blinkered. Thought it was good until i chose to get paranoid/negative "what if" "what if" blabbering baby mindset. A little confused that we both had same focus on correct trend and successful trades & that you see negativity in my plan.

One day i will understand fully & perhaps when this is achieved you will allow me an honour to point juniors in the right direction in future in order to give back to your system - till then, please allow me some time
Thank you

Oli
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  • #9,017
  • Apr 19, 2017 6:18pm Apr 19, 2017 6:18pm
Date: Eur/Jpy 0805 Sydney Time
CHECK NEWS RELEASE BEFORE TRADING Yes
- if No...... STOP .....do not proceed with Plan
Daily:
ROMAR - Resistance
EMA - Resistance
PSAR - Resistance
Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing Up
Last EMA Alert Arrow Up
Last DB Attachment 114.840
Fibo up or down Up
Notes: Full Down Trend. Market above EMA
2 HR:
OPEN PRICE -
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Resistance
PSAR - Support
Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing Down
Last EMA Alert Arrow Down
Last DB Attachment 116.966
Fibo up or down Down
Notes: Consolidated ROMAR Up trend. Both EMA & MACD arrows down one after the other and Purple cross White. Purple cross Smooth this candle. Hit on PSAR with SAR.
1 HR:
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Resistance
PSAR - Resistance
Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing Down
Last EMA Alert Arrow Down
Last DB Attachment N/A on 1hr charts
Fibo up or down Down
Notes: Consolidated ROMAR Up trend. EMA may cross Smooth next candle.
Market News For EUR/JPY/USA. USA in 14.5hrs
Final Notes: Consolidation. Daily Full Down Trend - SAR has not reached PSAR. Market above EMA, Both EMA & MACD arrows one after the other for the up. H2 + H1 Consolidated ROMAR Up trend. 4 Horsemen turning down on H2 & H1 (post 8396).
Entry: Long on H2 ROMAR hit - Target daily PSAR.
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  • #9,018
  • Apr 20, 2017 4:00am Apr 20, 2017 4:00am
Quoting OliveBranch
Date: Eur/Jpy 0805 Sydney Time CHECK NEWS RELEASE BEFORE TRADING Yes - if No...... STOP .....do not proceed with Plan Daily: ROMAR - Resistance EMA - Resistance PSAR - Resistance Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing Up Last EMA Alert Arrow Up Last DB Attachment 114.840 Fibo up or down Up Notes: Full Down Trend. Market above EMA 2 HR: OPEN PRICE - ROMAR - Support EMA - Resistance PSAR - Support Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing Down Last EMA Alert Arrow Down Last DB Attachment 116.966 Fibo up or down Down Notes: Consolidated ROMAR Up trend. Both EMA &...
I too had that entry on my trading plan, chose it because of the H1+H2 ROMARS confluence over the PSAR-SAR 23.6 fibo level setup in the moment, because of how the horsemen looked like, EMA+macd arrows down and specially because of no PSAR touch with SAR attached also. I tried not to chase the market and let it come to me, but missed the train because of it.

Could somebody please comment on what could we have done to prevent missing this entry or was it a legit good call not to enter yet?

Thank you in advance.

PS. Hope to be done with my re-study between this week and next one so I can post again with confidence, corrected a few of my notes so far.

Edit. For reference, this is how the market looked like in the moment of my trading plan:
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  • #9,019
  • Apr 20, 2017 5:53am Apr 20, 2017 5:53am
Hi Miau1.
Hope this helps.

Readjustments: Not sure if this is consistent with Dove’s explanation nor expectations of using imagination but thought i’d just give it a crack. Leaving my Son in charge of my trading station whilst I’m at work. Never done it before with the EURJPY. There is no written rule in this regard. So the adjustment to my plan is as follows:
If slider comes out for the up without hitting ROMAR then :-
1) Long when= Purple above white & market above Smooth
2) or Long = H2 EMA & MACD up & market above Smooth.
3) No other entries permitted.
4) No trades after 1900hrs Sydney time due to up coming news.

Evaluation: Back from work. H2 Purple Crossed White & Smooth. Son pulled trigger as instructed in readjustments in the moment. TP40

Yes, I know, you’re not supposed to have favourites but for today at least, i must concede at risk of total and complete family rebellion that of all of my sons to choose from, he is actually my favourite Oldest Son of all time. & Yes it was with humorous cheek i mention things the way i did in the Adjustments - yet still is factual. Must be honest on this thread & no funny business. BIG Thank You to Big Mexican for an assisted trade. Great team effort.
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  • #9,020
  • Edited 6:23am Apr 20, 2017 6:04am | Edited 6:23am
[quote=miau1;9777398]{quote} I too had that entry on my trading plan, chose it because of......

Hi Miau1,

I feel it is relevant - after having posted recently a TP40 i completed that was not posted "pre-future" & reprimanded by Dove because in retrospect i could have actually faked that entry if i was that way inclined, that if we ask for reviews from people for help in regards to our plans, we should at least post our plan once we set & complete it and are happy with our choice of Long or Short. That way Dove and everyone else with more knowledge knows we are not being bogus. Unless of course we get 100 plans posted everyday. In which case we will need to find a way to keep things simpler & find an alternative method. Just my opinion. Keeps everyone in honest level/playing field.

And as for my plan today my adjustments fit in reasonably well with post 8396

Oli
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