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reversing a losing strategy

  • #1
  • First Post: Sep 10, 2006 4:32pm Sep 10, 2006 4:32pm
I have been trading for two years now. First year BIG loser, now with training and study doing ok, profitable EVERY MONTH. My what if question is this.

what if you took the sorriest meta program that everybody says they have back tested and lost thousands of pips because of whatever. WHAT IF you just switched the buy to sell and the sell to buy, so instead of losing you win.
I often thought of this in manuel trading from my first year because after my analysis every trade I entered I lost pips, i thought why don't I do my analsis and just do the oppisite. I dunno just a thought. I mean if every time the meta program entered your trade and you lost money why not just change the buy sell around to do the oppisite.???????????????????
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  • #2
  • Sep 10, 2006 4:40pm Sep 10, 2006 4:40pm
Quoting mkkr
I have been trading for two years now. First year BIG loser, now with training and study doing ok, profitable EVERY MONTH. My what if question is this.

what if you took the sorriest meta program that everybody says they have back tested and lost thousands of pips because of whatever. WHAT IF you just switched the buy to sell and the sell to buy, so instead of losing you win.
I often thought of this in manuel trading from my first year because after my analysis every trade I entered I lost pips, i thought why don't I do my analsis and just do the oppisite. I dunno just a thought. I mean if every time the meta program entered your trade and you lost money why not just change the buy sell around to do the oppisite.???????????????????
I have actually heard of people trying that approach. For whatever reason it did not seem to work out, although it does make some kind of perverse sense.

If you try it, make sure to report back what happened.
  • #3
  • Sep 10, 2006 5:27pm Sep 10, 2006 5:27pm
Quoting mkkr
I have been trading for two years now. First year BIG loser, now with training and study doing ok, profitable EVERY MONTH. My what if question is this.

what if you took the sorriest meta program that everybody says they have back tested and lost thousands of pips because of whatever. WHAT IF you just switched the buy to sell and the sell to buy, so instead of losing you win.
I often thought of this in manuel trading from my first year because after my analysis every trade I entered I lost pips, i thought why don't I do my analsis and just do the oppisite. I dunno just a thought. I mean if every time the meta program entered your trade and you lost money why not just change the buy sell around to do the oppisite.???????????????????




Some good strategies become loosing strategies just because they hit your stop before hitting you profit trigger (somebody could think that just because of this, then this is not a good system)..maybe, maybe not.
But as in any system you will have to put a stop, even if you do the opposite of a loosing system, it will still be a looser system, UNLESS, you change your prospective of profit taking...or stop trigger..

I see it in this way: When you are making pips, you never want to close, and 20 pips for you are not enought..so you dont close, and maybe it even goes back to 0...

When you are loosing, you get panic, and 20 pips are enought for you to give up...

Algebric sum makes this approce as a looser
  • #4
  • Last Post: Sep 10, 2006 6:01pm Sep 10, 2006 6:01pm
i don't really see how you can truly reverse your system..... unless your stop/loss and take profits numbers are equal. then you could just reverse your pick-long or short; otherwise, you would be changing too many variables for your new system to be reliable.
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