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Dear Jerry ,
the first chart on post 7.979 says " Long at 15:00 Wedn. " but the chart shows bottom at 2:32 ...
I am confused on that...
In my explanation to GCarl last week, I posted a detailed Mars Phase study, adding curves visually.... that proved to be a good model this week... See, https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...79#post9628279
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Quoting F.g
Dear Jerry , the first chart on post 7.979 says " Long at 15:00 Wedn. " but the chart shows bottom at 2:32 ... I am confused on that...

Hi FG,

Thanks for noticing that! I first prepared that chart with data that only went to Tuesday.... I wrote in "long at 15:00" But then I updated the data and the time changed to 02:32... I will fix that on the chart and update it...
Jerry
Pluto Phase model showed promise with a net gain of 126 pips for the week. Please see this post: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...10#post9627210 (7961)

My gut feeling is that the outer planets provide better, more stable projection lines... and was confirmed with the big fail of the Mercury Phase model.
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Another positive model, please refer to post 7959

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...91#post9625791
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...and the results from post 7960

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...84#post9627184
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Hmmmm..does this mean you expect eur/usd to trend higher?
Wish u great weekend jerome.. I have Q.
Why everyweek you use different planet phase, depend on what u changing the planet!!
What the guidelines that will tell me which models to use for specific currency pair or futures or which week!
-Im really lost in these and this make me confused for what tools to use and when.
Investing is SIMPLE but NOT EASY
Quoting KovanTrader
Hmmmm..does this mean you expect eur/usd to trend higher?
I take it on a week by week basis.... Right now I am concentrating on turns in the market and not on price levels. Time, not price. Looking at the weekly chart though, I would say a continuation of the upward movement should continue. (just standard TA, no cycles analysis)
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We are back to Eastern Daylight Time in the US... there will be a discrepancy between the US and Europe for the next 2 weeks...

This projection line is a compilation of some of my best projections from my notebook... some are inversed, some normal.... It correlates at 87% for the past 12 cycles....

Short until Wed 02:30 then long is in keeping with post 7979 from Friday evening...
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Quoting Moly_Cam5
Wish u great weekend jerome.. I have Q. Why everyweek you use different planet phase, depend on what u changing the planet!! What the guidelines that will tell me which models to use for specific currency pair or futures or which week! -Im really lost in these and this make me confused for what tools to use and when.
Hi Moly Cam,

I am trying to refine the stability of the predictive model. Many different models can work. My experiment last week was to see if the outer planets model was more reliable than the inner ones... Mercury was a big failure so that confirmed my suspicion. This is an ongoing experiment in real time rather than in hindsight. As you can see, you could have made good money with any of the models posted last week...except for Mercury.

As this is an experiment, please only trade with a demo account.

Jerry
As an experiment here is the same model on 2 weeks out... I am trying for long swings that follow the general contour of the week.
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Quoting jnevins
{quote} Hi Moly Cam, I am trying to refine the stability of the predictive model. Many different models can work. My experiment last week was to see if the outer planets model was more reliable than the inner ones... Mercury was a big failure so that confirmed my suspicion. This is an ongoing experiment in real time rather than in hindsight. As you can see, you could have made good money with any of the models posted last week...except for Mercury. As this is an experiment, please only trade with a demo account. Jerry
Dear jnevins,

Have you checked earlier the success of Mercury Model? Might be due to the combustion, this model has been proved failure.
A request, to check this model when Mercury is not combust. I mean take some random samples for both, combustion and non-combustion period and then check the success of this model.

Regards
piptakers
Quoting piptakers
{quote} Dear jnevins, Have you checked earlier the success of Mercury Model? Might be due to the combustion, this model has been proved failure. A request, to check this model when Mercury is not combust. I mean take some random samples for both, combustion and non-combustion period and then check the success of this model. Regards piptakers
Hi Piptakers,

Thank you for that tip! I will research and backtest the periods when Mercury is within 14 degress orb of the sun.

I found an explanation of this phenomenon:

Moon becomes combust when it comes within 12 degrees on either side of the Sun.
Mercury becomes combust when it comes within 14 degrees on either side of the Sun provided Mercury is in forward Motion. When Mercury is in retrograde motion, the degree of closeness for combustion of Mercury becomes 12 degrees.
Venus becomes combust when it comes within 10 degrees on either side of the Sun provided Venus is in forward motion. When Venus is in retrograde motion, the degree of closeness for combustion of Venus becomes 8 degrees.
Mars becomes combust when it comes within 17 degrees on either side of the Sun.
Jupiter becomes combust when it comes within 11 degrees on either side of the Sun.
Saturn becomes combust when it comes within 15 degrees on either side of the Sun.

https://www.astrologerpanditji.com/page26.htm
Dear jnevins,

That's right. Experimenting with different parameters/considerations/theories would certainly be of great help.
Thanks for taking my view as a tip.

Regards
piptakers
Should we even trade during void of course Moon? Or is fresh start in trading only problem.

(Unlike many on this forum, I'm a firm believer in astrology).
"Don't lose your cool, and you will fare well".
Quoting jnevins
{quote}
1. Part of me wants to say the week isn't over yet but the Earth Venus model certainly gave a misleading direction to the start of the week...

2. Here is a Jupiter-Saturn model that I started exploring after reading Dr. Hans Hanula description of the JS synodic cycle. He describes how Gann's most important forecasting tool was the JS (20 year) cycle. "Jupiter was the bull of business and Saturn the bear" I like that yellow and green sinuous trend indicator on your chart! Here is the Jupiter - Saturn 32nd harmonic, heliocentric astronomy...
Point 1. should not be surprising because why should that work?
You are a college professor, what is your hypothesis? Follow the SCIENTIFIC method.

Point 2. That is completely wrong. Dr Hans Hanula is wrong.
And why are you using the 32nd harmonic? Is that just arbitrarily or do you actually have a system for that (best fit, best guess?). And why helio? you want to know what the market does on the sun?

I have been following this thread for many years now and I have said this many times, the method you are using doesn't work, use the SCIENTIFIC method.
Quoting diana91
Should we even trade during void of course Moon? Or is fresh start in trading only problem. (Unlike many on this forum, I'm a firm believer in astrology).
Here is a good page that has some background on Moon Void of course and all of the dates it occurs through next March, 2018.
http://www.debbikemptonsmith.com/ori...moon_sheet.htm

In looking at my Timing Solution I am trying to see a consistent pattern during the 12 hours before the moon ingresses a new house. Sometimes there is great activity that would be tradeable sometimes there is sleepy, sideways action then after the ingress, activity picks up. I looked to see if certain houses had quiet or lots of action during MVoC and did not see a consistent pattern on first look....

Only occasionally does a troll come by to ridicule the work being done here. I have been trying to keep the focus on evidence based truths using the scientific method in the best tradition of the astrologers from the Middle Ages in Europe such as Albertus Magnus (Saint, Dr. of the Church, Professor at University of Paris, Alchemist, Astrologer, Patron Saint of Scientists, lived in the 13th century). It is fairly straight forward to use mathematical tools to find correlations between planetary cycles and price movements of such widely traded instruments such as the EUR/USD. Nevertheless the search takes much work and there are too many factors to keep track of them all by the limited minds of human beings.

Thanks to piptakers in also bringing in Vedic Astrology a tradition more than 5,000 years old. Here is a quick introduction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_astrology
Quoting Ilovepippin
{quote} Point 1. should not be surprising because why should that work? You are a college professor, what is your hypothesis? Follow the SCIENTIFIC method. Point 2. That is completely wrong. Dr Hans Hanula is wrong. And why are you using the 32nd harmonic? Is that just arbitrarily or do you actually have a system for that (best fit, best guess?). And why helio? you want to know what the market does on the sun? I have been following this thread for many years now and I have said this many times, the method you are using doesn't work, use the SCIENTIFIC...
Please see my post just above.... Timing Solution Software allows me to use just that. Propose an experiment, test the hypothesis, report the results. Test again, track positive or negative results over time. Engage a wider community in adding their observations... The issue of cycle analysis and financial movement seems too far fetched to many. I am reminded of the story of five blind men with one hand on different parts of the elephant.... trying to form a coherent description of the whole creature from each limited description is always a challenge.

When you state that using a helio system is asking how the market is traded on the sun misses the point entirely. Each approach, helio, geo, etc., gives one access to another numerical cycle. It can be back tested. Cycles in the markets always seem to be evolving and changing. Picking a very specific time frame and trade period starts to narrow down infinite possibilities.

Yes you have been around this forum for a long time, longer than I. I have yet to see you post predictive information then report back on it. Perhaps you think this entire enterprise is folly. I think not though. What can you offer beyond criticism that would be of value to readers of this forum?
Today's events : 13/3/2017
Merc. opp. Jup. HELIO
Merc. contra// K.
Merc. sq. PL. HELIO
bracketed the top at 3:05

Next events : Merc. at 0* = A LINE. -17:07
Moon opp.Venus -22:43

Take care.
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