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  • #28,441
  • Mar 2, 2017 4:04am Mar 2, 2017 4:04am
At least 1 small profit by this method.
Test from LO, sadly fixed just 1:1
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  • #28,442
  • Mar 2, 2017 4:06am Mar 2, 2017 4:06am
Hello Pres,
How about these trade setups?Valid or not.
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  • #28,443
  • Mar 2, 2017 4:18am Mar 2, 2017 4:18am
Quoting saad007
Hello Pres, How about these trade setups?Valid or not. {image} {image} {image}
I am also very interested.
If i understand right, he said we have to see decent move from H or L "A ND or test or 2BR into a level of a zone which we haven't taken out the H or the L yes is worthless (unless you're scalping the zone - very advanced) and risky as we have no idea who controls the zone."

But I also join to your question and will wait for an answer
  • #28,444
  • Mar 2, 2017 4:37am Mar 2, 2017 4:37am
Quoting LuckyMind
{quote} If i understand right, he said we have to see decent move from H or L "A ND or test or 2BR into a level of a zone which we haven't taken out the H or the L yes is worthless (unless you're scalping the zone - very advanced) and risky as we have no idea who controls the zone."
Agree. I also wait for Pres's answer though I don't think those 3 trades are valid.
  • #28,445
  • Mar 2, 2017 7:00am Mar 2, 2017 7:00am
market is so calm right now.. guess everyone is waiting for the unemployment news
  • #28,446
  • Mar 2, 2017 8:32am Mar 2, 2017 8:32am
I took these 3 trades in London session. The 1st closed for 1:1, the 2nd close for 3:1, the 3rd hit my SL (what happened before those 2BR made me concerned, but couldn't find the real reason for not taking this trade
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  • #28,447
  • Mar 2, 2017 8:55am Mar 2, 2017 8:55am
Quoting pastsad2010
I took these 3 trades in London session. The 1st closed for 1:1, the 2nd close for 3:1, the 3rd hit my SL (what happened before those 2BR made me concerned, but couldn't find the real reason for not taking this trade {image} {image} {image}
Same SL at EJ, but i did trade H1. Hope its not cuz we weree too greedy with our SL's )
Also i shorted EU too but at H1, still at trade.
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  • #28,448
  • Mar 2, 2017 9:47am Mar 2, 2017 9:47am
Quoting LuckyMind
{quote} Same SL at EJ, but i did trade H1. Hope its not cuz we weree too greedy with our SL's )
Just throw a fib on the highest volume bar printed in NY session yesterday, there were some support at H of the zone. The interesting thing is that bar is not the YVZ in my chart.
I should have waited.
  • #28,449
  • Mar 2, 2017 9:56am Mar 2, 2017 9:56am
Quoting pastsad2010
{quote} Just throw a fib on the highest volume bar printed in NY session yesterday, there were some support at H of the zone. The interesting thing is that bar is not the YVZ in my chart. I should have waited.
I see, you are right. As Pres mentioned just recently - "When I said that I use LO zone that is because most of the time that is the highest volume zone for that day at that point. However, if we see volume overnight that was abnormally high we can't ignore it.".
Bar you mentiond have higher vol than our LO, you are right
  • #28,450
  • Mar 3, 2017 6:49am Mar 3, 2017 6:49am
lines can make your life so easy if you know where to draw one

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  • #28,451
  • Mar 3, 2017 7:20am Mar 3, 2017 7:20am
I took that Test into the H of LO bar and closed.
Everything was good enough, 2BR into the hinge, several NDs approaching the H but couldn't push through, and 2BR again, break the H and a Test. Suddenly realized there was a shared level (one from Daily bar on November 9th).
So I have to wait for that shared level to be tested? Still working on these levels... and find it difficult to manage.
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  • #28,452
  • Edited 2:05pm Mar 3, 2017 1:54pm | Edited 2:05pm
Quoting pastsad2010
I took that Test into the H of LO bar and closed. Everything was good enough, 2BR into the hinge, several NDs approaching the H but couldn't push through, and 2BR again, break the H and a Test. Suddenly realized there was a shared level (one from Daily bar on November 9th). So I have to wait for that shared level to be tested? Still working on these levels... and find it difficult to manage. {image}
Trading the zones isn't for everyone. It works great for me and others have found success with it too but for some, they find it too complicated on how to draw and manage the zones. There is no one size fits all. It all comes down to finding one's edge. Having a reason why taking a trade makes sense is key.

As important however as finding good entries we must know the trades possible limitations.

Whether you use zones or S&R or S&D or ADR or a combination of the above you need to know how far price is most likely to move so you can properly assign R:R for your trades.

It appears that a few of you are trying the zones and having mixed success so perhaps it's best to go back to normal VSA. As I have stated before not knowing or understanding why something works or even why you're taking a trade doesn't work.

I will go back to not posting here so as not to confuse matters anymore.

Remember...

"Never Take a Trade YOU Don't Understand".

Many green pips to all.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #28,453
  • Mar 3, 2017 11:36pm Mar 3, 2017 11:36pm
Which platform you use i try to install the ndicators in meta trader but i dont work there
  • #28,454
  • Mar 4, 2017 6:23am Mar 4, 2017 6:23am
Quoting pres78
{quote} Trading the zones isn't for everyone. It works great for me and others have found success with it too but for some, they find it too complicated on how to draw and manage the zones. There is no one size fits all. It all comes down to finding one's edge. Having a reason why taking a trade makes sense is key. As important however as finding good entries we must know the trades possible limitations. Whether you use zones or S&R or S&D or ADR or a combination of the above you need to know how far price is most likely to move so you can properly...
Wow didn't see this post coming.

VZA has really improved my trading, I don't use it for entries because I only focus on finding entry bars and don't pay enough attention to what is actually happening with the pair. But with using YVZ with the ADR from the hinge really helps me see the playing field, where the market is likely to consolidate and when it's over bought/sold and it also significantly improved my R:R.

Thank you for what you shared.
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  • #28,455
  • Mar 4, 2017 2:00pm Mar 4, 2017 2:00pm
Quoting pres78
... I will go back to not posting here so as not to confuse matters anymore. Remember...
Well, what is your really reason for flip-flop of posting: post, not to post, post, not to post...?if scientist stop their work just someone doesn't understand it where that would lead? "confuse" is excuse? really? noone is forcing you to post, it is up to you and you don't have to report to anyone your reason for it...but this one "confuse" is really something..haha.
  • #28,456
  • Mar 4, 2017 9:21pm Mar 4, 2017 9:21pm
[quote=pres78;9624995]{quote} As I have stated before not knowing or understanding why something works or even why you're taking a trade doesn't work. I will go back to not posting here so as not to confuse matters anymore. quote]

I'm sorry if I'm the reason for you not posting here anymore. Or it may be because my bad English makes you misunderstood. I haven't mastered this way of trading yet but I'm still working hard to know whether it's an edge for me or not.

In my previous post, it was just a question, didn't mean to prove anything. Anyway, really sorry for that.

Hope that you will come back to post soon.
  • #28,457
  • Mar 5, 2017 6:37am Mar 5, 2017 6:37am
Quoting pastsad2010
I took that Test into the H of LO bar and closed. Everything was good enough, 2BR into the hinge, several NDs approaching the H but couldn't push through, and 2BR again, break the H and a Test. Suddenly realized there was a shared level (one from Daily bar on November 9th). So I have to wait for that shared level to be tested? Still working on these levels... and find it difficult to manage. {image}
VZA lays out the playing field. If you take the ADR and add it to the 50% level of YVZ you get 1.3452, mark off that 1.3452 and scroll back on H1 and look for HV zones around that level, which is the H1 from Nov. 11, 2016.

Now we have our playing field. The yellow line is YVZ, the white line is TVZ and the green line is the H1 from Nov. 11, 2016. Do you see how USDCAD didn't have much room to go up from those 2 bar reversals?

When you're looking for trades the first thing that should cross your mind is how much can you get out of your trade? At the very minimum it should be a 3:1, if you be patient you can find a lot of trades where you have the potential for 5:1 RR or higher. After all if you are risking your money, don't you want the maximum return from that risk?

Go check out the first post on Prez's page, all this info is there. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=257645
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  • #28,458
  • Mar 5, 2017 6:39am Mar 5, 2017 6:39am
Can we rely on tick volume??

because tick volume is not real volume
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  • #28,459
  • Mar 5, 2017 10:48am Mar 5, 2017 10:48am
Quoting pastsad2010
Quoting pres78
{quote} As I have stated before not knowing or understanding why something works or even why you're taking a trade doesn't work. I will go back to not posting here so as not to confuse matters anymore. quote] I'm sorry if I'm the reason for you not posting here anymore. Or it may be because my bad English makes you misunderstood. I haven't mastered this way of trading yet but I'm still working hard to know whether it's an edge for me or not. In my previous post, it was just a question, didn't mean to prove anything. Anyway,
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Not at all. I just feel bad because I don't have sufficient time to really help a few of you as things are getting busy at work again and I don't like to see a few on here struggle to grasp VZA as it can offer such amazing information to help with trading decisions when properly understood and used correctly. I just wish I had more time to post and help out but I can't keep up with the questions right now thus my decision to step away. For anyone who wants to keep learning VZA I have written hundreds of posts here and over at my journal that should help.

Keep learning and the green pips will come.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #28,460
  • Mar 5, 2017 9:26pm Mar 5, 2017 9:26pm
Quoting malcolmb14
One for the knowledge banks .... how higher time frames can be used to predict the days movement VSA ROCKS.....off to take my yacht out now Hope all you VSA ers are doing well and killing the market .. remember we do not have to be in a traded ALL the time .. choose the best and most clear set ups and GO HARD. {image}
this PDF are gems, more of this kind of example for weakness and strength would be great. thank you.
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