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Trading Institutional Order Flow

#2,681
Feb 17, 2017 9:26am Feb 17, 2017 9:26am

4XAlien
| Joined Jun 2016 | Status: Trader | 32 Posts

Hi Akt

Hope all is well, just thought I post this text book one from EURUSD this morning for anyone who likes the smaller times frames.

The Pictures are annotated, but brief commentary was ...... Price fell on the 60 Min into Demand from the European open, Momentum was broken on the 15 Min and Demand was formed, dropped down to the 3 Minute and took the trade for a Risk Reward of 3 to 1. Slightly painful wait for the target to get hit, but got there in the end.

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Feb 17, 2017 10:35am Feb 17, 2017 10:35am

Akt
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Hi Akt Hope all is well, just thought I post this text book one from EURUSD this morning for anyone who likes the smaller times frames. The Pictures are annotated, but brief commentary was ...... Price fell on the 60 Min into Demand from the European open, Momentum was broken on the 15 Min and Demand was formed, dropped down to the 3 Minute and took the trade for a Risk Reward of 3 to 1. Slightly painful wait for the target to get hit, but got there in the end. {image} {image} Thanks

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Hello 4XAlien.
Been a while.

As discussed in the video i posted this morning here and on the youtube channel, about the Euro trade idea seeing that the dollar was at demand and the Euro was at supply.....
Here is the trade i exited about an hour ago.

best wishes

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#2,683
Feb 17, 2017 10:41am Feb 17, 2017 10:41am

Akt
| Commercial User | Joined Jan 2016 | 2,682 Posts

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Hi Akt Hope all is well, just thought I post this text book one from EURUSD this morning for anyone who likes the smaller times frames. The Pictures are annotated, but brief commentary was ...... Price fell on the 60 Min into Demand from the European open, Momentum was broken on the 15 Min and Demand was formed, dropped down to the 3 Minute and took the trade for a Risk Reward of 3 to 1. Slightly painful wait for the target to get hit, but got there in the end. {image} {image} Thanks

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Hello 4XAlien. Thank you for sharing this
Goes to show that even in the same market traders can make money going long and short. It's just a matter of timeframes

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon

#2,684
Feb 17, 2017 12:53pm Feb 17, 2017 12:53pm

Mr.PhiBo
Joined Jun 2014 | Status: Trader | 216 Posts

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{quote} Glad it worked out. If you zoom out to daily you can see today and day before yesterday price used the demand zone around 1.24 - 1.235 and rallied from it. That was my reason for why I thought the zone may not hold. Out of curiosity do you often take trades like this? I mostly trade on lower tf short term trades. And may have taken this trade if it wasn't my day off. Have you or any of the other members here haveany advice for the minortity of us that do trade small term? My trades don't usually stay open longer than 30mins to maybe 1-2...

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What do you mean by "trades like this"?

To break the rules you must first master them.

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Edited Feb 18, 2017 8:53am Feb 17, 2017 1:00pm | Edited Feb 18, 2017 8:53am

Michele86
| Commercial User | Joined Oct 2016 | 125 Posts

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{quote} Hello 4XAlien. Been a while. As discussed in the video i posted this morning here and on the youtube channel, about the Euro trade idea seeing that the dollar was at demand and the Euro was at supply..... Here is the trade i exited about an hour ago. best wishes{image}

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I took same trade...

Update: I prepare second short...

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#2,686
Feb 17, 2017 3:36pm Feb 17, 2017 3:36pm

4XAlien
| Joined Jun 2016 | Status: Trader | 32 Posts

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{quote} Hello 4XAlien. Thank you for sharing this Goes to show that even in the same market traders can make money going long and short. It's just a matter of timeframes best wishes

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Hi Akt

I Agree, if the risk reward works and the analysis stacks up, then its a valid trade.

All the Best

#2,687
Feb 18, 2017 2:56am Feb 18, 2017 2:56am

khor
| Joined May 2016 | Status: Trader | 23 Posts

Hi Akt,
I like the way you trade using demand and supply. It is more appreciated the fact you are sharing useful information. I have picked a few nuggets from this thread already. Who knows, I may change my ways and trade using the principles presented in this thread. The videos help alot. Thanks.

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Feb 18, 2017 1:18pm Feb 18, 2017 1:18pm

Akt
| Commercial User | Joined Jan 2016 | 2,682 Posts

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Hi Akt, I like the way you trade using demand and supply. It is more appreciated the fact you are sharing useful information. I have picked a few nuggets from this thread already. Who knows, I may change my ways and trade using the principles presented in this thread. The videos help alot. Thanks.

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Hello khor
Good to meet you
Welcome to T.I.O.F & thank you for your kind words.
Glad the information is useful.

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon

#2,689
Feb 18, 2017 2:43pm Feb 18, 2017 2:43pm

4rXal-ghul
| Joined Apr 2015 | Status: Trader | 207 Posts

Was scanning through charts and this AUDJPY D1 pops out:

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I shall be looking for intraday longs if price enters to demand like that.

Guys, what do you think!!!

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Edited 12:38am Feb 19, 2017 12:24am | Edited 12:38am

Elios
| Joined Jan 2016 | Status: Trader | 197 Posts

Elliott waves and SAD - EUR/GBP

I am not an expert but the situation in EUR/GBP seems to me as a typical example of the Elliott wave pattern.

As we can see in the Weekly EUR/GBP chart the basic pattern is five waves up, followed by three waves down.

Within this basic pattern the waves are numbered 1 to 5 for the movement that takes price in the direction of the main trend, and labeled A-B-C for the corrective movement that takes price against the main trend.

Within the numbered waves, the waves 1, 3 and 5 move price strongly in the main direction of the trend. These waves are termed actionary or impulsive. Waves 2 and 4 move price against the main direction of trend and so they are termed reactionary or corrective.

We can observe from the overall patern that after the formation of an impulsive wave, a corrective wave follows. The interplay between buyers and sellers continually creates action and reaction. An impulse move is always followed by a corrective move. The same pattern repeats continually in every timeframe because these waves are fractals.

The impulsive waves are imbalances in terms of SAD method and as imbalances they need a correction.So the price returns, for a while, into a zone where there is balance between buyers and sellers.

''What goes up must come down'', in other words every currency gets strong only to become weak later on.These corrections give us, as SAD traders, the opportunity to catch the next impulsive wave. So we can catch :

- wave 3 after the corrective wave 2
- wave 5 after the corrective wave 4
- and wave C after the corrective wave B

As we can see in the Monthly EUR/GBP chart the whole impulsive wave which has created needs a corection that has already began.

In the Daily chart we can see, in more detail, this downside corrective movement. The waves A and B have already created and now the wave C begins its formation.

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Edited 12:42am Feb 19, 2017 12:29am | Edited 12:42am

Elios
| Joined Jan 2016 | Status: Trader | 197 Posts

The primary value of Elliott waves is that they provide us an overall context for our market analysis. It is a broad roadmap. Now we have to do our SAD analysis.

Monthly : Downtrend, because 2 DZ have taken out

Weekly : Downtrend, because a downside trendline has formatted and a DZ has taken out

Daily : Bearish sideways trend, because a SZ has taken out but a trendline has not formatted yet

4 H : Uptrend, because 2 SZ have taken out

30min : Downtrend, because a downside trendline has formatted and a DZ has taken out. This is an indication that the 4H uptrend has finished.

Conclusion : Shorting the EUR/GBP is a high probability trade because you will follow the Monthly, Weekly and Daily Downtrend.

Short term target : The first daily DZ under the price

Long term target : The price probably may reach the Demand zone where there is a strong imbalance.

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#2,692
Feb 19, 2017 1:51am Feb 19, 2017 1:51am

Akt
| Commercial User | Joined Jan 2016 | 2,682 Posts

Hello Elios.
A reminder about the rules on page one of the thread is that this thread is devoted to Supply and Demand Trading only.

I understand individual traders will have other methods they may wish to marry with supply and demand
However, for this thread, seeing that the concepts being shown here about supply and demand are intricate enough on their own and take a significant period to master, it is even more confusing to layer that with an entirely different methodology here. Especially as there are so many new members just coming to terms with Supply and Demand as a methodology in itself.

So, I would appreciate your understanding in keeping with the ethos of the thread and staying with Supply and Demand trading, its rules and application when posting here.

Many thanks

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon

#2,693
Feb 19, 2017 1:55am Feb 19, 2017 1:55am

Akt
| Commercial User | Joined Jan 2016 | 2,682 Posts

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Was scanning through charts and this AUDJPY D1 pops out: {image} I shall be looking for intraday longs if price enters to demand like that. Guys, what do you think!!!

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Hello 4rXal-ghul.
Thank you for posting this idea. Much appreciated

If i may, quick question, why is that a supply zone please? (note, i agree with your analysis of it. However, your chart shows an uptrend with momentum still intact)

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon

#2,694
Feb 19, 2017 2:46am Feb 19, 2017 2:46am

kefi2927
| Joined Jan 2015 | Status: Trader | 3 Posts

Hi AKT

I am new to your thread. This is so kind of you to share and disseminate your knowledge, expertise and thoughts to anyone that would like to have an understanding about SAD (Supply and Demand) methodology.

More than anything, your goodwill and the generosity of your effort and time to this thread has attracted me to this thread and this methodology.

I watched your introduction video and it shows only charts.
Do you trade on technical analysis only or do you support your TA with any fundamentals? For example COT reports or daily/weekly Order reports?

Thanks

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Feb 19, 2017 3:48am Feb 19, 2017 3:48am

Elios
| Joined Jan 2016 | Status: Trader | 197 Posts

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Hello Elios. A reminder about the rules on page one of the thread is that this thread is devoted to Supply and Demand Trading only. I understand individual traders will have other methods they may wish to marry with supply and demand However,....................

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Akt, I know that this thread is about SAD and I dont have the intention to use another method. As you can see at my second post I did the SAD analysis, which is the method I want to learn. Besides the title of my 1st post is Elliot waves and SAD ... so I am not out of topic. I just wanted to show the complementarity of the 2 different methods, with this one and only post.

I wish you a good Sunday

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Feb 19, 2017 4:07am Feb 19, 2017 4:07am

Akt
| Commercial User | Joined Jan 2016 | 2,682 Posts

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{quote} Akt, I know that this thread is about SAD and I dont have the intention to use another method. As you can see at my second post I did the SAD analysis, which is the method I want to learn. Besides the title of my 1st post is Elliot waves and SAD ... so I am not out of topic. I just wanted to show the complementarity of the 2 different methods, with this one and only post. I wish you a good Sunday

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Hello Elios.
That's fine.
I appreciate your understanding

best wishes

Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon