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  • #10,401
  • Feb 15, 2017 1:21pm Feb 15, 2017 1:21pm
Good Evening fellow traders,

I have read though most of this thread again and I have subscribed and will take on the 10 trade challenge.

I have a question or 2 though that I could not find the answer for: What time of the day do you look for setups or does it depend on the currency? For example, EURUSD, do you only look for setups in the Euro session open and the hours thereafter and then again later in the US session? USDCAD only look for setups after the US session opens?

I will scope it out in the morning anyway.

Warm regards from a warmer South Africa
  • #10,402
  • Feb 15, 2017 2:07pm Feb 15, 2017 2:07pm
Quoting Kakmaker
Good Evening fellow traders, I have read though most of this thread again and I have subscribed and will take on the 10 trade challenge. I have a question or 2 though that I could not find the answer for: What time of the day do you look for setups or does it depend on the currency? For example, EURUSD, do you only look for setups in the Euro session open and the hours thereafter and then again later in the US session? USDCAD only look for setups after the US session opens? I will scope it out in the morning...
Please read POST #1 to the end and follow the instructions.

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  • #10,403
  • Feb 15, 2017 2:44pm Feb 15, 2017 2:44pm
Quoting Kakmaker
Good Evening fellow traders, I have read though most of this thread again and I have subscribed and will take on the 10 trade challenge. I have a question or 2 though that I could not find the answer for: What time of the day do you look for setups or does it depend on the currency? For example, EURUSD, do you only look for setups in the Euro session open and the hours thereafter and then again later in the US session? USDCAD only look for setups after the US session opens? I will scope it out in the morning anyway. Warm regards from a warmer South...
Lol - hi Kakmaker. Good to see you here. Pippy says hi!
  • #10,404
  • Feb 15, 2017 8:02pm Feb 15, 2017 8:02pm
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  • #10,405
  • Feb 15, 2017 8:25pm Feb 15, 2017 8:25pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Please read POST #1 to the end and follow the instructions. {image}
yeah, i have to try research this search
i like your both theard, thank you, tooslow
  • #10,406
  • Feb 16, 2017 2:54am Feb 16, 2017 2:54am
Quoting lemercenaire
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Came good on this one last night. Took a ''dipped'' entry early (bent the rules) but you could have had the pure entry a few minutes later if you had dropped to the m1 tf.

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  • #10,407
  • Feb 16, 2017 3:42am Feb 16, 2017 3:42am
Hahaha - Fair enough

I HAVE READ POST #1 AND THE EXAMPLE LINKS BUT I STILL HAVE A QUESTION

So at the end of the day what it comes down to is what works best for you in your circumstances, correct?
  • #10,408
  • Feb 16, 2017 3:57am Feb 16, 2017 3:57am
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Shorted this NZ profit locked at +5.
  • #10,409
  • Feb 16, 2017 4:17am Feb 16, 2017 4:17am
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Also have this CAD long sitting at +9 profit locked.
  • #10,410
  • Feb 16, 2017 6:09am Feb 16, 2017 6:09am
Quoting merah678
Hi all, Just sign in to say thank you I've been trading HOLO around last Q4. I must admit that HOLO is so simple. easy to comply and easy to execute. I managed to stay focused and consistantly gain profit over the weeks. By the way, i trade manually on smartphone. Thank you for this splendid HOLO.
Hi merah678

Glad HOLO has been working form you. I have not been able to spend enough time on it to understand and practice it since not able to be in front of the computer enough. Its great to know you are usining HOLO on your phone. If you don't mind can you share details on how you manage this from your phone? It will sure be a great help for me since accessing my phone at all times is not an issue for me.

Regards
Yalgaar
  • #10,411
  • Feb 16, 2017 6:31am Feb 16, 2017 6:31am
Quoting Kakmaker
Hahaha - Fair enough I HAVE READ POST #1 AND THE EXAMPLE LINKS BUT I STILL HAVE A QUESTION So at the end of the day what it comes down to is what works best for you in your circumstances, correct?
Pretty much, yes. That's why the initial learning period is so important. While you rep the method of entry, you can be grooving the process so it becomes a natural thing you barely have to think about and as you are doing this you are building up a knowledge bank of your favourite pair(s) and how they behave during your particular day. Some pairs will work better for some than others - purely because one trader is working the UK session and the other the Asian. No one is ''better'' than the other, just more suitable at that time.

You will also notice that Hal, TS and myself are continuously moving between HOLO and 1-2-3 and this is the way that works best imo, as the day is covered for all the eventualities and one set-up naturally leads into another, ie what starts out as a HOLO set-up will morph into a 1-2-3, which then turn into a HOLO after the 1-2-3 move has either completed or moved on naturally.

However, you won't begin to see this until you have spent the time at the coal face and as I said, rep, rep, rep some more.
  • #10,412
  • Feb 16, 2017 7:10am Feb 16, 2017 7:10am
Quoting Kakmaker
Hahaha - Fair enough I HAVE READ POST #1 AND THE EXAMPLE LINKS BUT I STILL HAVE A QUESTION So at the end of the day what it comes down to is what works best for you in your circumstances, correct?
Good summation of trading and of life.
Cheers!
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  • #10,413
  • Feb 16, 2017 7:14am Feb 16, 2017 7:14am
Quoting lemercenaire
{quote} Pretty much, yes. That's why the initial learning period is so important. While you rep the method of entry, you can be grooving the process so it becomes a natural thing you barely have to think about and as you are doing this you are building up a knowledge bank of your favourite pair(s) and how they behave during your particular day. Some pairs will work better for some than others - purely because one trader is working the UK session and the other the Asian. No one is ''better'' than the other, just more suitable at that time. You will...
such gold... flys bye
  • #10,414
  • Feb 16, 2017 7:15am Feb 16, 2017 7:15am
Quoting lemercenaire
You will also notice that Hal, TS and myself are continuously moving between HOLO and 1-2-3 and this is the way that works best imo, as the day is covered for all the eventualities and one set-up naturally leads into another, ie what starts out as a HOLO set-up will morph into a 1-2-3, which then turn into a HOLO after the 1-2-3 move has either completed or moved on naturally. However, you won't begin to see this until you have spent the time at the coal face and as I said, rep, rep, rep some more.
HOLO can be a 1-2-3.
1-2-3 can be a HOLO.
Closely related but not the same.
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  • #10,415
  • Feb 16, 2017 7:16am Feb 16, 2017 7:16am
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} HOLO can be a 1-2-3. 1-2-3 can be a HOLO. Closely related but not the same.
Yep, but the go hand in hand where you find one another was near
  • #10,416
  • Feb 16, 2017 7:33am Feb 16, 2017 7:33am
I will stick with HOLO for now.

Any recommendations for a broker? The broker I use have high spreads that will kill me on the smaller time frames.
  • #10,417
  • Feb 16, 2017 9:00am Feb 16, 2017 9:00am
Hi all - I have some questions...

1 - Is it realistic to think that following those 2 methods I can end each day in profit ?
2 - Am I understanding it right if I think no considerable draw down period should be expected ?

My understanding is that if a trader :

1 - Is able to filter out most of the "bad" trade
ones which would have been under the rules but does not look right

2 - Cut his losers short
If the market goes directly the wrong way (cut at 4-5pips)
Or If the trade goes your way 2-3 pips and go back in negative cut it at 4-5pips

3 - Let the trade develop after it as reached 5-10 pips and is at BE. Try to get as much +5, +10 as possible and occasional home run.

Then it is possible to be in profit at EOD everyday. Can you confirm if that is realistic ?

I am wondering because considering the back testing I made with an EA I made myself for HOLO and 1-2-3 I see a positive expectancy but not without down days. And sometimes with a couple of days in the negative. And I want to know if that is something I should expect or not.

Note : This code I made is only for back testing purpose in order to give me insight. That's. It.

And TooSlow if you want me to remove the mention of my code I can delete it lightning fast.
  • #10,418
  • Feb 16, 2017 9:36am Feb 16, 2017 9:36am
Quoting yalgaar
{quote} Hi merah678 Glad HOLO has been working form you. I have not been able to spend enough time on it to understand and practice it since not able to be in front of the computer enough. Its great to know you are usining HOLO on your phone. If you don't mind can you share details on how you manage this from your phone? It will sure be a great help for me since accessing my phone at all times is not an issue for me. Regards Yalgaar
 
Hi Yalgar,
 
Credits goes to Too Slow , Lemercenaire,Hal7 for their love for HOLO and 123. 
 
I'm not good with words, so pardon me for the mistakes.
 
To sum up my activities,
 
I try to answers you as best as I could, but first , help yourself by executing HOLO @ 123. both works wonderful. gain confidence and get comfortable by executions.
 
Profits and losses is not important. Just trade the lowest lot available. risk only with money you can lose. risk to me is how much im willing to pay to test my trading idea, how far im willing to let the market move a way to prove my trading idea is invalid. You may risk more afterwards.
 
Please read the first post on both thread. work them out
 
I use telegram to save snapshots. think of it as journal. i wrote down my plans, if a do b, if c do d, etc. what i felt on that setup. record the activities, maintain focus, evalute the plan versus execution during weekends. 
 
my favorite task during the weekends is to  find 3 things that worked during the week, ask myself how to repeat them and how i could do better. im more interested in the trades that i have skipped
 
As for me, I do EU. 1 trade at a time. That worked for me. I tried multiple pairs before, and found that im all over the place, I can't justify almost 3/4 of  the trades taken. As a result i can't improve my  trading skills. Whaf worked for me may not worked for you. Adjustments can only be made after you got the root cause.
 
I'm blessed since i could trade all the sessions. JPY in the morning, GBP passed lunch, NYK at night. So my Open start early in the morning. above open buy. below open sell.
 
During each session, there is a potential creating a new high/low. hence i look for possible 123 for reentry if im out OR move my SL near 123. 
 
During each session, there is a potential creating a wick, resulting  from highest point to the next H1 open. in case of this high remains as the high of the day,high failed to move up, come back and  past the current H1 open, i got HO reversal. vise versa for LO.
 
HOLO got nothing to do with previous day HOLO (PDHOLO) or previous day open (PDDO).
 
This is from my personal exercise. Should the price break PDLO / PDHO. that a breakout, a run away train. Just moved SL. Scalling in  the next HOLO /123 setup available. I don't mind holding on . I don't have target profit. Im using SL to lock some profit. We never know exactly how far the price will go. 
 
To my understanding, if the current day open below PDDO , I could hold this selling pressure. vise versa. It may or may not test any previous day points. It may or may not test the current day points also. It may do breakout, or remain in range.
 
This is how i practice HOLO on phone. Just to share. Our result may vary. Hope this will help you on your journey. take what you need, discard what not, make it your own
 
 
  • #10,419
  • Feb 16, 2017 10:35am Feb 16, 2017 10:35am
Quoting Kakmaker
I will stick with HOLO for now. Any recommendations for a broker? The broker I use have high spreads that will kill me on the smaller time frames.
Please read the thread.
You will learn changing time frames has no effect on the price.
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  • #10,420
  • Feb 16, 2017 10:37am Feb 16, 2017 10:37am
Quoting thedrrew
I am wondering because considering the back testing I made with an EA I made myself for HOLO and 1-2-3 I see a positive expectancy but not without down days. And sometimes with a couple of days in the negative. And I want to know if that is something I should expect or not. Note : This code I made is only for back testing purpose in order to give me insight. That's. It. And TooSlow if you want me to remove the mention of my code I can delete it lightning fast.
Backtesting is a waste of time when used to test systems.
This has been discussed.
Take the 10 TRADE CHALLENGE.
There you will find your proof.
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