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  • #2,581
  • Feb 12, 2017 4:54am Feb 12, 2017 4:54am
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
Hi guys, yestarday's short didn't work out, but daily trend is still down and price is still in daily supply area. Let's see how this one goes Zrzut ekranu 2017-02-09 o 11.03.03.png;2179883 {image}
Mr Phibo
According to my analysis of the previous post you had to wait the brake of the new upward 4H momentum trendline.
  • #2,582
  • Edited 10:24am Feb 12, 2017 4:57am | Edited 10:24am
Conclusion

An analysis of the price waves with the help of the momentum trendlines is valuable.

- With these trendlines (in conjunction with the removed SD zones) you can define the trend in the various TFs (2nd definition of a trend)
- You can monitor the momentum like an oscillator does
- The brakes of these lines show us the end of a retracement and the time of entry (loss of momentum).
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  • #2,583
  • Feb 12, 2017 1:12pm Feb 12, 2017 1:12pm
Hi Guys,

Im a newbie, been at this game for a couple of months now and only started my learning phase, this thread seems to be an amazing thread to follow and learn.

Going through the posts, i cant find a place where you detail the methodology/rules of S&D ? Please be so kind to assist, i would really appreciate it.

Regards
  • #2,584
  • Feb 12, 2017 1:16pm Feb 12, 2017 1:16pm
My analysis of DXY on Daily/240/60
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  • #2,585
  • Feb 12, 2017 3:27pm Feb 12, 2017 3:27pm
Hey AKt.

I am new in trading with supply & demand and I am surprised with the Video you posted on YouTube.
This is my first research, and I want to check-in with you short Australian Dollar future when it reach to between 0.7719 and 0.7754 zone and buy back in 0.7587 and 0.7613 zone or even 0.718 and 0.7205 zone later.

Do you think my drawing is correct?
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  • #2,586
  • Feb 12, 2017 3:56pm Feb 12, 2017 3:56pm
Quoting karasinga
Hello Akt and T.I.O.F traders usdx weekly: usdx weekly feb.png;2184003 Daily: usdx daily feb.png;2184001 H4: usdx h4 feb.png;2184002 zone assessments update zone assessment.png;2184005 comments are highly welcomed green pips... {image} {image} {image} {image}
Hello Karasinga

Beautiful!!
Nicely done. Thank you for sharing this.

One note on the 4hr, the upper DZ is still fresh because price is yet to return to it
otherwise, almost flawless.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,587
  • Feb 12, 2017 3:57pm Feb 12, 2017 3:57pm
Quoting khaolin
Hey Guys, What do you think about this trade: AUDNZD Short W: Comming up in 2 (not fresh) Supply zones. D:Broke Downtrend into D supply embedded in W Supply H4: Supply embedded In a D and W zone AUDNZDW.jpg;2182626 AUDNZDD.jpg;2182622 AUDNZDDH4.jpg;2182625 The approach seems a bit questionable but it also looks overextended. Looking forward to your comments. Have a nice weekend, Alex {image} {image} {image}
Helo Khaolin
Thank you for sharing your idea
The only issue i see is the profit margin with the trade.
There is demand close to the area of the proposed short going by the chart you kindly posted

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,588
  • Feb 12, 2017 4:00pm Feb 12, 2017 4:00pm
Quoting TaDaDa
TDA on GU Curve - Mn Trend - Wk Execution - D1 Sideways market with not much profit margin. Let the bulls and bear fight it out!! {image} {image} {image}
Hello TaDaDa

On the monthly chart, the turquoise box is not a demand zone
You may need to look lower and to the left for fresh demand
Use the IDC feed on Trading view, it has more data than the FXCM feed
In addition, the momentum line on the monthly is inaccurate because of the second point used.
It is a DBD not a pivot high that can be used for joining points

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,589
  • Feb 12, 2017 4:05pm Feb 12, 2017 4:05pm
Quoting TaDaDa
TDA on UJ Long call ... {image} {image} {image}
Hello TaDaDa.
Thank you for sharing your analysis on the USD/JPY.

If i may, i have some thoughts about the monthly chart

best wishes
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  • #2,590
  • Feb 12, 2017 4:15pm Feb 12, 2017 4:15pm
Quoting Elios
A simple analysis of a complex situation (GBP / JPY) and a possible trade Weekly chart : The previous upward trendline has been broken , so the Supply Zone 1 formated and the momentum trendline changed direction and now is downward. The trend is down because previous weekly demand zones have taken out. Daily chart : The previous downward trendline 1 has been broken , so the Demand Zone 1 formated and the momentum trendline changed direction. The previous upward trendline 2 has been broken , so the Supply Zone 2 formated and the momentum trendline...
Hello Elios.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this market.
I agree with you, it is not offering any great trading opportunities for a position trade right now.

If i may, a note on the weekly....

best wishes
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  • #2,591
  • Feb 12, 2017 4:19pm Feb 12, 2017 4:19pm
Quoting Renaldobenji
Hi Guys, Im a newbie, been at this game for a couple of months now and only started my learning phase, this thread seems to be an amazing thread to follow and learn. Going through the posts, i cant find a place where you detail the methodology/rules of S&D ? Please be so kind to assist, i would really appreciate it. Regards
Hello Renaldobenji
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you.

The accompanying youtube channel may be of help to you in this regard. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBf...ZS7J4oOx3hHl3g
In addition, if you take a look at the charts posted throughout the thread, the process is explained in those chart examples.
It will take a bit of work on your part though, however, the videos should stand you in good stead

welcome again

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,592
  • Feb 12, 2017 4:26pm Feb 12, 2017 4:26pm
Quoting kelvinl
Hey AKt. I am new in trading with supply & demand and I am surprised with the Video you posted on YouTube. This is my first research, and I want to check-in with you short Australian Dollar future when it reach to between 0.7719 and 0.7754 zone and buy back in 0.7587 and 0.7613 zone or even 0.718 and 0.7205 zone later. Do you think my drawing is correct? {image}
Hello kelvinl. Nice to meet you.
Welcome to T.I.O.F

Thank you for trying your hand out at S.A.D. I hope you find it interesting.

About your question and the chart you posted....
Firstly, one of the foundational tenets of S.A.D trading is multiple time frame analysis. That is how decisions are made as to what the most appropriate action to take in a market is.
So unless we understand the premise for the trade, by seeing the top down analysis you did, it is difficult to comment on the appropriateness of the trade you ask about.

In addition, we need to work on you recognition of zones and drawing trend lines.
Take your time going through the videos on the channel. It is pretty much all there.
It will come in time, step by step.
Keep going.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,593
  • Feb 13, 2017 2:54am Feb 13, 2017 2:54am
Hello again to everyone on the forum and yourself AKT, Hope everyone is well and trading sharply! I have put up the USDCAD W,D,4HR for analysis i have week down daily up and 4 hr up. I hope my analysis is correct on the zones and the trend lines. All feedback is always welcome and hope my trend analysis is correct.

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  • #2,594
  • Feb 13, 2017 3:16am Feb 13, 2017 3:16am
Quoting jgk
Hello again to everyone on the forum and yourself AKT, Hope everyone is well and trading sharply! I have put up the USDCAD W,D,4HR for analysis i have week down daily up and 4 hr up. I hope my analysis is correct on the zones and the trend lines. All feedback is always welcome and hope my trend analysis is correct. weekly USDCAD.jpg;2184795 Daily USDCAD.jpg;2184797 4hr USDCAD.jpg;2184799 Make the most of your life we only have one! {image} {image} {image}
Hello jgk

the 4h trendline is down, see the most recent price action.
the daily trend is still down. The rule says : the removal of a SZ + the formation of an upward trendline. Not the brake of a downward trendilne, as you say.
So the bias is down.

Hope this helps
  • #2,595
  • Feb 13, 2017 3:28am Feb 13, 2017 3:28am
Quoting jgk
Hello again to everyone on the forum and yourself AKT, Hope everyone is well and trading sharply! I have put up the USDCAD W,D,4HR for analysis i have week down daily up and 4 hr up. I hope my analysis is correct on the zones and the trend lines. All feedback is always welcome and hope my trend analysis is correct. weekly USDCAD.jpg;2184795 Daily USDCAD.jpg;2184797 4hr USDCAD.jpg;2184799 Make the most of your life we only have one! {image} {image} {image}
hello jgk, my thought on your D and H4..
D will only be in an up trend if it took out 2 opposing SZ or 1 opposing SZ and an ability to draw an upward trend line.....from what i see, D is in consolidation....
H4 is in down trend....DZ zone been taken out and an ability to draw a downward trend line.....

best wishes
cut your losses short and let your profit run
  • #2,596
  • Feb 13, 2017 3:49am Feb 13, 2017 3:49am
Thank you Elios and Bleeze this is very valuable feedback and I do see where your all coming from.This is super thank you to both great feedback.
  • #2,597
  • Edited 12:23pm Feb 13, 2017 4:08am | Edited 12:23pm
short on BRENT....D/H4/30 sequence...
UPDATE: TP HIT....
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  • #2,598
  • Feb 13, 2017 7:43am Feb 13, 2017 7:43am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Mr.Phibo If i may, i have a small tweak for you that may help You see, when you are trading a zone, buying or selling, Profit margin must be assessed When possible, this assessment should take place in real time ie with the trader sitting in front of their screens watching as price returns to the level The demand zone that was created below your short removed profit margin on the trade So watch for where the opposing trade is when you are entering..when buying, where is there likely to be selling against my position? When selling,...
Hello, sorry but I didn't have time to answer. Well, I see it in a slight different way, (quality of daily zone is out of a table) when I trade with daily trends and daily zones of supply or demand, I don't care about opposing H4 levels. They are out of my interests. I just want to open trade on H4 level to decrease my possible loss (H4 zones are tighter then daily) but after that I want to grab daily swing not H4 move. I don't really get your point, could you explain me please?
To break the rules you must first master them.
  • #2,599
  • Feb 13, 2017 8:27am Feb 13, 2017 8:27am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello TaDaDa. Thank you for sharing your analysis on the USD/JPY. If i may, i have some thoughts about the monthly chart best wishesusdjpy tadada.PNG;2184353 {image}
Noted with thanks Akt

Have a green trading week
  • #2,600
  • Edited 2:26pm Feb 13, 2017 11:37am | Edited 2:26pm
Quoting Elios
A possible continuation of the Weekly and Daily up trend, after the 4H trendline break. R : R = 1:5 {image} {image}
I stopped out on Gold with a small loss. 4H trend has changed (is down) and the upward Daily trendline has broken.
Never mind. I ll buy it lower, at the weekly DZ and the profit will be larger.
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