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  • #61
  • Edited 5:50am Jan 31, 2017 3:54am | Edited 5:50am
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not all or most of them repaint? i mean indicators

If an indicator does not repaint i do not think it has much value because it doesn't reflect the current market but the market "as it was before".
Indicators should be adaptive, not static.

Even the most simple indicator "the price candle" repaints.
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  • #62
  • Edited 2:57pm Feb 7, 2017 2:24pm | Edited 2:57pm
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The Indicator will calculate the breakeven of the 3 trades and store this value in the Global Variable EURUSDpin6_Buy_BreakEven.

A good question for Jagzuk would be (and i can not ask him)

What happens if fi. a fourth EURUSD trade is opened is it added and BE recalculated ?
If so, what if the three trades are all 1 pip of BE and the fourth trade is opened with a 4 pip spread ?
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  • #63
  • Feb 7, 2017 3:31pm Feb 7, 2017 3:31pm
Quoting Hotpotato
{quote} A good question for Jagzuk would be (and i can not ask him) What happens if fi. a fourth EURUSD trade is opened is it added and BE recalculated ? If so, what if the three trades are all 1 pip of BE and the fourth trade is opened with a 4 pip spread ?
Nice one HP i had a similar question, but need to think over it after i have watched the Pin behavior ...
i just posted there and complimented Jagzuk, but of course questions are arising in my mind
I am glad that Jagzuk has taken the time to explain how the Indicator will calculate the breakeven of the 3 trades, and then i began to think
okay 3 trades and what about if there are more trades opened, the price will be stored in the GV and will be recalculated according to?
Price will continue rising.. the Bid price i mean, and the calculated price will keep on trailing_ It will be in pips i guess or Atr% _
Hopefully i'll get here after you guys will interact between each others for us to know more _
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  • #64
  • Feb 8, 2017 6:08am Feb 8, 2017 6:08am
Quoting jenbols
{quote} Nice one HP i had a similar question, but need to think over it after i have watched the Pin behavior ... i just posted there and complimented Jagzuk, but of course questions are arising in my mind I am glad that Jagzuk has taken the time to explain how the Indicator will calculate the breakeven of the 3 trades, and then i began to think okay 3 trades and what about if there are more trades opened, the price will be stored in the GV and will be recalculated according to? Price will continue rising.. the Bid price i mean, and the calculated...
Hi. Good Q. At any moment, the notional trail price is calculated based on all positions. So adding a new trade with a spread will affect the notional trail price, but the Global Variable will only be advanced when the notional price is better.

Same issues can happen with a basket trail of course. I can think of a few problem scenarios when trailing overall profits... also important to think about how/when we open trades.
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  • #65
  • Feb 8, 2017 12:15pm Feb 8, 2017 12:15pm
Quoting jagzuk
{quote} Hi. Good Q. At any moment, the notional trail price is calculated based on all positions. So adding a new trade with a spread will affect the notional trail price, but the Global Variable will only be advanced when the notional price is better. Same issues can happen with a basket trail of course. I can think of a few problem scenarios when trailing overall profits... also important to think about how/when we open trades.
Yeh indeed how we open trades makes also the difference .. mhmh challenging Ea have to say, but hey
if all things are easy our brain will die, and then you said there is lots of maths in there ...
Well done and thanx for the answer
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  • #66
  • Feb 21, 2017 6:00pm Feb 21, 2017 6:00pm
So many EAX pins but so little knowledge what to do with them.
Just an observation.
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  • #67
  • Feb 22, 2017 2:33am Feb 22, 2017 2:33am
Quoting Hotpotato
Recompiled without BDM stuff in it. {file} {file} {file} {file} {file} {file} {file} {file} {file} {file}
HI sorry Hp hope i am not being a pain asking, asking .. i have just replied to the other thread of the Bdm for one thing
But on here i downloaded some time ago the Dwm Ranges v1.01 that together with the Pinadd_on Pair_add-onmultipair order close .....(clean)
was being very profitable... The Dwm v1.01 does not give anymore signals_ and all changed_ Any possible explanation for this?
Thanx u
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  • #68
  • Feb 22, 2017 4:17am Feb 22, 2017 4:17am
Quoting jenbols
{quote} HI sorry Hp hope i am not being a pain asking, asking .. i have just replied to the other thread of the Bdm for one thing But on here i downloaded some time ago the Dwm Ranges v1.01 that together with the Pinadd_on Pair_add-onmultipair order close .....(clean) was being very profitable... The Dwm v1.01 does not give anymore signals_ and all changed_ Any possible explanation for this? Thanx u
No idea, it should work but i will have a look at it.
There are a couple of versions, can you give me a link to the version you are using ?
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  • #69
  • Feb 22, 2017 4:54am Feb 22, 2017 4:54am
Quoting Hotpotato
{quote} No idea, it should work but i will have a look at it. There are a couple of versions, can you give me a link to the version you are using ?
HI i suspect must be the one in post #6 which is 55kb and mine is 56kb, probably because with the addition details
when downloaded from mobile_
In the attachment you can see the photo and the awesome results, however have to say was better with the Eax2.4 version
With the Eax2.8 went well for a week or so and then nothing, just blank
Pls note you will see Pins used are 4/5/6 and on the other eax are 1/2/3 but i tried same pins as before and also didnt work, but i dont think pins position is the problem_
Dwm 1.02 tried but it does i think only buys, and 1/2 trades per day
Cheers
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  • #70
  • Edited 10:34am Feb 22, 2017 5:11am | Edited 10:34am
Quoting jenbols
{quote} HI i suspect must be the one in post #6 which is 55kb and mine is 56kb, probably because with the addition details when downloaded from mobile_ In the attachment you can see the photo and the awesome results, however have to say was better with the Eax2.4 version With the Eax2.8 went well for a week or so and then nothing, just blank Pls note you will see Pins used are 4/5/6 and on the other eax are 1/2/3 but i tried same pins as before and also didnt work, but i dont think pins position is the problem_ Dwm 1.02 tried but it does i think...
I am going to have a look.

I believe i found the correct one.
Try this one.
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  • #71
  • Feb 23, 2017 3:00pm Feb 23, 2017 3:00pm
About what BrainTheBoss was saying on going to a live account to soon.
Even after months it can suddenly go wrong.
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  • #72
  • Feb 23, 2017 4:27pm Feb 23, 2017 4:27pm
Quoting Hotpotato
{quote} I am going to have a look. I believe i found the correct one. Try this one. {file}
Oh Many thanx will load it straight away_ and see

Quoting Hotpotato
About what BrainTheBoss was saying on going to a live account to soon. Even after months it can suddenly go wrong. {image}
Aww that chart says it all _
After many months can go wrong… and I have seen also some other posting about this also Steve Hoopwood said the same things about not relying on robots long term_ and the best is when he reminds us, traders don’t be stooped !! eheh
I am fine with it and will keep trading manually with charts opened, and just my curiosity wanting to know things. I guess they keys for changes in robots and Ea’s which don’t work all the time can be changed market conditions, changed correlation, politic that change the news and so on_ It cannot be because the algorithm get rusty and old_ ;-)
The algorithm inside stays the same, but conditions change, I just love the fact that some times the Ea the Pin is emotionless and should trades what it sees because it is a robot_ but of course all can change during months_
I am still organizing what manual system I would like to be coded and once done I will look for a good coder_
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  • #73
  • Edited 5:18pm Feb 23, 2017 5:04pm | Edited 5:18pm
I will take Brains advise even a step further and even say do not let a robot take trades.

For us the average traders, full automated trading is not in the stars.
If you want to trade forex serious you have to do it yourself.
Do not use robots but use signal givers.
There is nothing wrong with having some basic rules/signals let a program process them and give you a signal to have a look at the situation.
Ever wondered why MetaQuotes calls it an Expert Advisor and not an Expert Trader ?

I often hear people say "but i am a sleep or at work during the European/American sessions" well, than learn how to trade the Asian session and the associated pairs.
There is money to be made in that session also, Asians do it all the time.

You do not have to trade for hours and hours, i spend 1/2~1 hour a day setting up my trades (just a couple) and let them run until they reach my predefined take profit point (90% does). Trading is not in the numbers of trades you take every 24 hours but on the assurance that you have winning every single trade.
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  • #74
  • Feb 23, 2017 6:08pm Feb 23, 2017 6:08pm
Good stuff HP, About Dwm it seem to works okay _ Signal shown on "Eax compound signal Pin", trade opened UsdCad after 2 min, just to trying things_
"Indiscriminate Start" set to True when i loaded it then after 2 min set to false / Debugging True

you do not have to trade for hours and hours, i spend 1/2~1 hour a day setting up my trades (just a couple) and let them run until they reach my predefined take profit point (90% does). Trading is not in the numbers of trades you take every 24 hours but on the assurance that you have winning every single trade.

I read once that Nial Fuller Popular trader and price action master is Australian and does that too, he trades Nzd/Aud mostly
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  • #75
  • Feb 24, 2017 7:08am Feb 24, 2017 7:08am
@jenbols @ another topic

If you want to make your trading easier stop using the low timeframes and start leanring the higher ones.

Pick some symbols (do not care which) pick a channel (again do not care whatever you like) now open the charts and set a trade entry and an TP/SL and do not trade but see if your TP is reached or that you hit SL. Always set a SL to protect you from going bankrupt. Do not forget that once you enter the "big league" you will be chased for you losses (just an example of brokers https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=522242) it is old but i am sure you can find better ones. Also i am sure that a broker will forgive a $100 loss even on a live account.
But really you can not learn trading on a demo, cent or even a small live account without trading it manually.
The only spoiler on higher tf's could be news (or earthquakes, cyclones) but by then you should already be in profit and will be able to contain the damage.

Most important rule, "do not trade for the sake of trading".

High tf 20 pips and counting currently open 20 lots, simple close at the end of the week.
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  • #76
  • Feb 24, 2017 5:56pm Feb 24, 2017 5:56pm
Quoting Hotpotato
@jenbols @ another topic If you want to make your trading easier stop using the low timeframes and start leanring the higher ones. Pick some symbols (do not care whint rule, "do not trade for the sake of trading". High tf 20 pips and counting currently open 20 lots, simple close at the end of the week. {image}
Oh let me see here what you kindly wrote Hp_

Yes on Live no 2 i use not less than H1/h15 to enter, but yes the tendency is generally to go to lower TFs, its a newbie thing i guess eheh_
I Read that thread already but a few pages only, i also posted in a thread when i had a problem with my broker stopping
all Eas and Orders open Scripts which place Sl and Tp at a set distance_ I had problems the night Trump was elected and
also issues using them before and after H. volatility news, but after i spoke to my broker all problems were solved. I also participate
to meeting in person In london to meet the regional managers when they do meeting and discuss things_ Free snacks too ;-)

Re: Most important rule, "do not trade for the sake of trading". this is cool
I had also read that some times not trading is trading,

About Pick some symbols and pick a channel _ and higher Tf .. something to think about
Tried couple of times to keep the position in profit over the weekend and got spoiled by all those Monday big gaps
so lesson learned and close position before 3pm Friday before the big spikes come along_
Many Thanx u have a nice weekend_
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  • #77
  • Feb 28, 2017 9:41pm Feb 28, 2017 9:41pm
Mt4 has a new update ,, that was fast, Mt4 Build 1052
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  • #78
  • Mar 1, 2017 4:46am Mar 1, 2017 4:46am
Quoting jenbols
Mt4 has a new update ,, that was fast, Mt4 Build 1052
Thanks, haven't got it yet.

Will have something to do with that win10 .ex4 problem i think.
But i will get it anyway.
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  • #79
  • Mar 3, 2017 2:08am Mar 3, 2017 2:08am
"Holy gr..., holy gr..., holy gr..., holy F*".
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  • #80
  • Mar 3, 2017 8:16am Mar 3, 2017 8:16am
aww that looks like ... uhmhm is it that bad ?
=--=---=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Oh Btw Mt4 some times does good things ... or not sure how it happened ..
but i loaded the free gift you gave us on metacharts tools website
and after i opened all my 5 Mt4 on one Pc they were all updated to 1052 ...
i didnt do anything .. i only updated one of them _
Running out of Cpu might as well go linux _
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