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  • Sep 6, 2014 10:26am Sep 6, 2014 10:26am
  •  PrymeTyme
  • Joined Oct 2009 | Status: 5%er Wannabe | 769 Posts
Quoting springger
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Hey Pryme, thanks for the vid link. Maybe its a bit of topic,but combining AMT (VP to be specific), and using Jigsaw Tools, a lot of time you actually see the orders being siphoned into the market at a support or resistance zone, and actually see when the market jumps a few ticks higher/lower, suddenly a massive amount of orders get pulled into the system. See the term Iceberg orders. Understanding how retail traders (herds) think, and knowing where they place their stops for both longs and short, institutional (Other Time Frame) traders effectively...
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Hi Springger !


Yes , a high volume or increasing vol. at levels of interrest .. like support or resistance etc.. with price practically going nowhere is actually nothing more then
"absorbing" from deep pockets,

i used vol. as part of my trading in the past .. but vol only adds to a story told thus far , it can and will help in the situation u described i. etc but all
in all . only price matters .. ie if there is a change in behaviour.. ie the supply and demand game.. u will notice this by observing price movement aswell.. i used to
tarde off the DOM , aswell as bar charts with vol.. but as of know iam happy with only bar charts.. and do quite good at . judging the market

orderflow is whats happening behind the curtain and it is indeed good to know the inner workings , but to execute and trade management .. its not neccesary
one can simply judge the market by price alone.. ie. what its cappable to do and what not.. etc..

however to know how orderflow works and what other "informed" traders do with that knowledge , helps one in anticipating and judging the markets action nontheless..

OTOH if one trades purely of the DOM/Orderbook . its crucial to read the orderflow and PA in realtime ...

an example

if one sees that price approaches a res. level.. with a HUGE OFFER side , ie making the market "look" weak .. but actually u see some contracts hitting the BID
but the BID size refreshes and we stay BID at the price.. u can anticipate something is in the making (breakout) .. yes the market looks weak but we stay BID, we
see a refereshing of the BID u should get suspicios and should be ready or be placed allreayd for abreakout to the longside.... as soon as the OFFER size gets
Pulled.. price breaks resistance... and shoots .. up.. and if the momentum of the breakout starts to slow down u should get out.. , thats scalping just using the DOM

so orderflow is essential if u scalp using the DOM .. but if u r trading longer TFs etc.. its not completely necessary , but good if u know how orderflow works and what one might anticipate at certain levels.. and the behaviour at such a level.. etc..
 
 
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  • Sep 6, 2014 12:31pm Sep 6, 2014 12:31pm
  •  srt
  • Joined Dec 2012 | Status: On Life's Path | 2,076 Posts
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{quote} Hi Springger ! Yes , a high volume or increasing vol. at levels of interrest .. like support or resistance etc.. with price practically going nowhere is actually nothing more then "absorbing" from deep pockets, i used vol. as part of my trading in the past .. but vol only adds to a story told thus far , it can and will help in the situation u described i. etc but all in all . only price matters .. ie if there is a change in behaviour.. ie the supply and demand game.. u will notice this by observing price movement aswell.. i used to tarde...
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  • Jul 10, 2015 5:28am Jul 10, 2015 5:28am
  •  yaed
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Hi Peeps, I will try and make this post short as i have charts that explain my thoughts,i think the saying is:"A picture speaks a thousand words". I have been staring at charts now for an embarrassing amount of time,so i won't give you the number.But having done this has allowed me to gain some amount of clarity. Here are a few basic thoughts that i will share and i hope this allows traders to look at charts not in terms of graphics/pixels but in terms of ORDERFLOW.Yes,traders placing orders are what make prices go up and down.Sometimes the obvious...
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Still golden.
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  • Sep 30, 2015 10:46pm Sep 30, 2015 10:46pm
  •  gravitist
  • | Joined Aug 2014 | Status: Member | 639 Posts
"This may sound discouraging but there is no edge in orderflow."

Exactly correct. BTW, the nonsense DS peddles isn't real "orderflow" - he's just doing S/R . The real orderflow in fx isn't visible (even if you have Level II).
 
 
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  •  Mingary
  • Joined Mar 2011 | Status: I should be on your ignore list | 5,595 Posts
Quoting gravitist
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"This may sound discouraging but there is no edge in orderflow." Exactly correct. BTW, the nonsense DS peddles isn't real "orderflow" - he's just doing S/R . The real orderflow in fx isn't visible (even if you have Level II).
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  •  tashkent
  • Joined Oct 2011 | Status: quo | 4,193 Posts
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{quote} ... {quote} Two of my biggest role models flat out contradicting each other. That says a lot about trading to me...
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A renowned Zen master said that his greatest teaching was this: Buddha is your own mind. So impressed by how profound this idea was, one monk decided to leave the monastery and retreat to the wilderness to meditate on this insight. There he spent 20 years as a hermit probing the great teaching. One day he met another monk who was traveling through the forest. Quickly the hermit monk learned that the traveler also had studied under the same Zen master. "Please, tell me what you know of the master's greatest teaching." The traveler's eyes lit up, "Ah, the master has been very clear about this. He says that his greatest teaching is this: Buddha is NOT your own mind."
As Above, So Below
 
 
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  • Nov 11, 2015 5:54pm Nov 11, 2015 5:54pm
  •  Copernicus
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Quoting tashkent
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{quote} A renowned Zen master said that his greatest teaching was this: Buddha is your own mind. So impressed by how profound this idea was, one monk decided to leave the monastery and retreat to the wilderness to meditate on this insight. There he spent 20 years as a hermit probing the great teaching. One day he met another monk who was traveling through the forest. Quickly the hermit monk learned that the traveler also had studied under the same Zen master. "Please, tell me what you know of the master's greatest teaching." The traveler's eyes...
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Hehehehehe...those Zen Masters are just brutally fiendish :-)
 
 
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  •  tashkent
  • Joined Oct 2011 | Status: quo | 4,193 Posts
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{quote} Hehehehehe...those Zen Masters are just brutally fiendish :-)
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lol yet the meaning beneath the parable is very profound
As Above, So Below
 
 
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  • Nov 11, 2015 8:34pm Nov 11, 2015 8:34pm
  •  Copernicus
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{quote} lol yet the meaning beneath the parable is very profound
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100% agreed Tash. They have a knack of letting you know when you are acting or not. :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p63QMHhYhw
 
 
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  • Sep 27, 2016 5:31am Sep 27, 2016 5:31am
  •  Trader-Dale
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Sep 2016 | 1,511 Posts
Hi guys,
I would like to invite you to my new thread where I post everyday new intraday trading levels. I use price action, market profile and orderflow to make them. You can all see if this method works for you. I think it will
Here is the thread:http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9162014#post9162014
You are all welcome there!

Happy trading
Dale
 
 
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  • Nov 9, 2016 2:32pm Nov 9, 2016 2:32pm
  •  nthusiw
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Nov 2012 | 112 Posts
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Hi guys, I would like to invite you to my new thread where I post everyday new intraday trading levels. I use price action, market profile and orderflow to make them. You can all see if this method works for you. I think it will Here is the thread:http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9162014#post9162014 You are all welcome there! Happy trading Dale
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Excellent work. Many thanks
Just like a Midget at a urinal am always on my toes
 
 
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  • Nov 9, 2016 2:36pm Nov 9, 2016 2:36pm
  •  nthusiw
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Nov 2012 | 112 Posts
www.telegram.me/orderflowfx
Just like a Midget at a urinal am always on my toes
 
 
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  • Feb 5, 2017 5:40am Feb 5, 2017 5:40am
  •  wendigo
  • | Joined Nov 2012 | Status: i am mr gold | 221 Posts
i still think its funny darkstar and the orderflow elite came in here and every other orderflow thread and acted like the king know it alls. when they wasnt trading nothing but supply and demand. and guessing just like the rest of us. use your brain trading is simple its people like that who make it hard. you dont need level 2 data u need nothing but a blank chart to find order flow info. orders stack at support resistance and round numbers. bounces of trendlines etc etc etc. find a cluster of t.a points converging and bobs your aunty there is your fuel for a stop run. bunch of jerk offs acting all mystical

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  •  Ganative
  • | Joined Mar 2017 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
Quoting wendigo
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i still think its funny darkstar and the orderflow elite came in here and every other orderflow thread and acted like the king know it alls. when they wasnt trading nothing but supply and demand. and guessing just like the rest of us. use your brain trading is simple its people like that who make it hard. you dont need level 2 data u need nothing but a blank chart to find order flow info. orders stack at support resistance and round numbers. bounces of trendlines etc etc etc. find a cluster of t.a points converging and bobs your aunty there is your...
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A little late of a reply but yeah, it's killing me. There is absolutely no secret I stopped reading after the second page and went straight to the last post. Everybody here is talking about, "if you understand what's in the white space, ITS GAME OVER" lol what??? What does that even mean, just because you understand where orders are stacked up, it doesn't entail anything. It's just your simple S/R levels. Everybody here acts like they uncovered some unsaid truth that will change the whole dynamic of the market, y'all can relax.
 
 
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  • Jun 9, 2017 9:15am Jun 9, 2017 9:15am
  •  Darkstar
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Nov 2005 | 1,429 Posts
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It's just your simple S/R levels.
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You know there is more to it than that. S/R levels provide no directional indication. Order Flow Trading includes the sentiment component, and the strategies for managing price reactions at the S/R levels. Without those bits S/R levels may as well be random!

By the way, if you want a super simple training program for learning Price-OrderFlow you should check out https://orderflowtrading.com
 
 
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  •  Ganative
  • | Joined Mar 2017 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
Quoting Darkstar
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{quote} You know there is more to it than that. S/R levels provide no directional indication. Order Flow Trading includes the sentiment component, and the strategies for managing price reactions at the S/R levels. Without those bits S/R levels may as well be random! By the way, if you want a super simple training program for learning Price-OrderFlow you should check out https://orderflowtrading.com
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I don't need a training program from anybody and certainly not from you. I've done quite a bit of research on you... and what do you know, now you're advertising! You're comedy man
 
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  • Jun 9, 2017 9:49am Jun 9, 2017 9:49am
  •  Darkstar
  • | Membership Revoked | Joined Nov 2005 | 1,429 Posts
Quoting Ganative
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{quote} I don't need a training program from anybody and certainly not from you. I've done quite a bit of research on you... and what do you know, now you're advertising! You're comedy man
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You are correct ma brother! When you have a product as good as mine you just can't help but try to get the word out as much as possible..
 
 
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  • Jun 9, 2017 4:11pm Jun 9, 2017 4:11pm
  •  redbaron1981
  • Joined Jul 2009 | Status: Member | 345 Posts
Quoting Ganative
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{quote} I don't need a training program from anybody and certainly not from you. I've done quite a bit of research on you... and what do you know, now you're advertising! You're comedy man
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Reading your response made me very happy to see that yourself and potentially others are finally seeing through the DS order flow scam.

Good Luck.
 
 
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  • Jun 9, 2017 5:33pm Jun 9, 2017 5:33pm
  •  Ganative
  • | Joined Mar 2017 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
Quoting redbaron1981
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{quote} Reading your response made me very happy to see that yourself and potentially others are finally seeing through the DS order flow scam. Good Luck.
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Bro you know it's a scam when they start advertising. Once they start asking for money, say fuck em. All these holy grail threads that people keep on referring to, EVEN the James16 thread, its all a sham. FF is like 98% bullshit and you can smell it just by reading the posts. Instead of working on your trading and bettering your weaknesses, "traders" are looking for clues on how to get rich quick, hahaha it's so funny honestly. Good luck to you too!
 
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  •  Rafaz1
  • | Joined May 2017 | Status: Member | 361 Posts
Hello all,

Is there an orderbook indicator or price indicator that can aid potential buy and sell positions?.

Thank you
 
 
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