Pattern's Chemo-Electric Trading Journal

Hi, Yaed !
If I can figure a reasonable answer for you, I'll give it a try.









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Separate from and ignorant of the post above,
I wrote another new (practice) trading method.

This time,
most of it is written on the pictures of charts below:




A line segment is vertical, and its severe with-the-money attribute is the first thing I draw.
Then, any all-radiuses i.e. circles/curves,

Areas two-fer -- thus, the name of the method -- opposites,
so that area can be both ruled out and squares to at least surround that area and, third, projecting patterns may or may not align with such a big number of candles.
Then, triangles may be drawn off opposite-situating points, and so on, for the details to consider.

-- The method is simple, but it's well-organized -- I assume, and I've only practiced it in the pictures above -- and thus effective (I think, as of now).





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last method:




"
In this method, I simplify the technicals -- although the option to complicate them is, still open.
I use a grid -- vertical and horizontal lines, where applicable -- , an anti-grid -- any 45D - or - so (50D, too, I'd guess) -- (a great place for long-term - lines ('complicat'ions)), and a grid-maker -- curves, as represented in MT4 by circles (or, rather, ellipses).

Then, the 50D illusion, which may or may not decide direction, stays:
The 'A rule from here ( https://www.google.com/search?q=Three+elemental+illusions+ determine+the+Z%C3%B6llner+illusion &oq=Three+elemental+illusions+deter mine+the+Z%C3%B6llner+illusion&aqs= chrome..69i57.352523430j0j0&sourcei d=chrome&ie=UTF-8 ) (pg. 1) states that
"This apparent expansion of the acute angle occurs
at the angles between 0 and 90 in the Zllner illusion
(Morinaga, 1933; Wallace & Crampin, 1969). On
the other hand, in the tilt illusion, the acute-angle expansion
appears at the angles between 0 and 50, and, to the
contrary, the acute-angle contraction, called the indirect
effect, occurs at the angles between 50 and 90..." '
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I want to bring back roller language for reasons other than forex trading,
so I'll be (, I think,) working on it here. I want to use rl in conjunction with two-fer, in my own ptm, since it fits with at-least-small companies - their news - their stock charts - those charts' technicals. But, I'd have to a) know when a forex pair started, and b) that pair'd have to be unique, even if within a group of similar pairs(/companies). Neither is true, though if I could get a) for each in the pair, I guess I could configure each side of the pair.
So I'm not sure how to test rl even nearby forex; I may bring in some stocks, correlate a bunch of same - base - country pairs at the same news and measure the respective difference between each pair.
Anyway, here's my description of roller language, exactly from the post at my ff thread "EUR/USD patterns". I guess I'll be mushing it up to work with it so I can get it into my own ptm :

"http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=2337700#post2337700"

"Here's a simple example of roller language works, including the extended patterns, basic variations of the definition of each rl pattern, and rules and conditions that allow reasoning future actions from the given patterns. The example excludes rl sets, trendlines within rl patterns, and more-complex interpattern reasoning.

*WARNING* This explanation is lengthy and necessitates an almost-continuous viewing of the given chart. Also, experienced viewers, please bear with me, I'm explaining how a cohesive group of patterns works; its use, when appropriate to the chart for whatever symbol or pair, helps in what I view as the ultimate need of a trader's toolbox, that of providing reason enough for the next trade. I'd rather break everything down in a logical, sequential fashion, even explaining the same thing twice occasionally, than just hand a new set of patterns to you with a few words. Beginners who don't want to use my set of patterns will at least get something from the line of reasoning below that using several patterns necessitates.

{insert chart here}

It's simple because every rl pattern is plainly defined in this example (more on this later.) It does include the extended portion of roller language, which is

hash (a bunch of cross-hatched lines, forming parallelograms within)
.. then step to roll..
line, or line segment
point (here, 'pivot')

These patterns, or shapes since they're often simple, are plain, implied and easily cross over the regular patterns in their own way; thus, they're in the extended portion. Regular patterns adjoin each other, or even, on scale, cross over each other; they, however, generally respect the boundaries of the other regular patterns.

A walk-through of this example:
First, you see a step. It's a reasonably pure step, only leaning a little and with a nicely-formed symmetric triangle that's not sinking into the step, and jumps a little afterwards as a symtri would, in an easily-recognized direction. The step's symtri's followthrough fails a little, which creates the setup for the next pattern.
A 'maybe' (and a soon-to-be-recognized-in-the-chart pair of lines (or, a channel), which express the 'maybe' pattern's future dominance between them (that is, the channel contains several 'maybe' patterns,)) pattern answers the last pattern's slight failure.
Next is a roll, or rather a rather fractured roll, compromising itself with looking like a peak. Its being there brings in a rule, which in turn will lead to some valuable interpattern reasoning:
As noted in the prior message, the rl patterns are in a particular order. Imagine the center of the basic patterns to be the castle, or 'stability'. Then, put in your mind the 'maybe' pattern on the left side and the peak pattern on the right side. Finally, put the step pattern to the left of the 'maybe' and the roll to the right of the peak.
The rule being noted is that a chart order of a 'maybe' pattern and then a peak pattern is a regular jump from one side of 'stability' to the other; it creates no tension, or at least any tension it creates would only arrive from its being perfectly aligned. One could call this chart order as being in a '0' condition.
A '-1' condition would be a jump from one pattern to a neighbor of its opposing pattern, creating an instability to the natural set (that is, the defining order of roller language's patterns.)
Beside the rule, there are conditions when the 'maybe' goes to the roll. Contraction occurs, in the rl sense. The roll also has features of a peak (condition one), which helps reduce the tension between the 'maybe' and the roll, and thus the side channel forms. The contraction answers the expansion (condition two) that the step did in its jump and failure of the jump.
The modified-'-1' condition of the peakish roll is answered with another 'maybe' pattern, which creates a condition of two examples of the same pattern framing a certain area. This frame-like condition somewhat settles the channel's being there. The size of this second 'maybe', however, is a bit small; the next pattern, a small and very connected step, supports the 'maybe' and its making a frame: The step is on the same side of 'stability' as the 'maybe', it relieves the '-1' condition of the 'maybe' after the 'maybe' challenged the roll, and it matches the first 'maybe' pattern's predecessor, also a step.
A step is an excitor, since it climbs easily. (Note I counted step series. (I was hoping for 3 to 5 steps to be on one ascending trendline; usually, such a series will go sideways after the third or fifth step.)) The frame resolved the side channel's tension, and the regular, if small, step, especially since supported with being related symmetrically with the prior, somewhat bullish step, joins the frame in creating a probable upward motion.
Another step appears, weighed down with the side channel and how releasing of tension the frame was. Then another step appears, a small, stumpy one that almost sits atop the side channel, thus reinforcing it. This creates a 'maybe' condition and pattern that crosses into the last (and third) step, deciding another side channel into probability.
After this 'maybe' pattern is another peakish roll, completing this side channel sitting atop the main side channel. A decent-sized step leaves the side channel; only, it fails miserably, because a pivot, or point (or dot) has appeared. I say 'appeared', only it's a pattern in the extended portion of the rl series, just to the right (in the mind's eye) of the line. There does also exist a condition, at least in this chart, of a big channel then small channel then point series, which is simple and thus may reflect the chart's use of the natural set (which is the defining order of the rl patterns, as listed in the last post and at the top of this post.)
This completes one direction of the chart's general trend. The next direction is down. The step, having just barely reached above the smaller side channel, breaks down from a pivot and falls into the original, bigger side channel's upper half. This step is upside-down and very fast, with a bit of an inward-into-the-bigger-channel's-wall angle to its symmetric triangle. Then another step happens, this one short, stumpy and with a relatively-large symmetric triangle to stay inside the side channel it's in.
This last step, with its short stem and big symmetric triangle, hits the channel's base strongly, and the big symmetric triangle, with the channel's base, acts as a kind of support to reverse the usual direction of a step's symmetric triangle's reaction. It ends the down direction. Another step appears and creates the next, up direction. (I decided not to count steps this time, since direction changed.) This step immediately hits the big side channel's upper wall, leaning while it does so. However, this step is also thin, in contrast to the last step, and that contrast is a condition that relieves the tension (in the price-time line of the general chart), on top of the grounding effect the turn related to the last, heavy step had.
Another, even lighter step breaks from the relatively-light last step and through the big side channel's upper wall. This lighter step has some issues, such as one of its price-time line's candles having a long shadow into the lower big channel before it leaves it. This condition creates a lagging weight on the p-tl line, a condition internal to the rl pattern, and suggests that beyond this chart lies more internally-weighted rl patterns and thus a more-slanting trend. The final portion of the chart shown reflects this condition, looking like a slanted reaction to the step's symmetric triangle, a reaction that, in the chart's last candle, retreated.
The reactions shown with the last pattern could develop into a choice of several patterns, which will have, probably, the noted internal condition, a tension of reacting to the smaller channel's upper wall. This modifies the bullish condition of there having been two of the usual 3-5 steps in one direction already. Also, the big side channel - small side channel - point series provides a condition more in the background for the p-t line beyond this chart to react to.
Oh yes, the 'hash':
The 'hash' appeared as a counter to the point and line (series) on, in the mind's eye, the other side of 'stability' (castle, in the natural set.) Notice how the chart's last two patterns, excluding the last pattern's reaction, creates a straightened 'N'. This straightened 'N' reflects the levels the price-time line already ran through. The 'hash' is somewhat invisible, being on the extended portion of the natural set, that is, of the order defining roller language. (There is only eight pattterns, not nine, in rl; the core portion is symmetric, and the extended portion is conceptually, not literally, symmetric coinciding with the core portion between either side of the extended portion ('hash' on the left and line then point on the right, in the mind's eye.) The 'hash' also created the condition of satisfying the chart's area including the shown chart's first pattern, the relatively-pure step and its reaction, and excluding the chart's last pattern, the internally-corrupt step and its reaction.

I've described how all of the patterns shown on the given chart connect to each other. Yes, of course, there are lots of other methods of describing it, even of describing the patterns I named. Roller language is one more way to describe a chart, and one advantage is that it is all-in-one.

I arrived at this grouping of patterns when I was trading stocks. Stocks each tend to create a set or pair of rl patterns particular to that stock, in the less-flexible (not usually containing the ability to center and create 0/-1 conditions of tension from this centering, that the natural set has) derivation of the 'natural set'. Forex pairs do contain rl patterns; speaking for the EUR/USD, which I've demo'ed for several months, I found runthroughs of the natural set, some inter-rl-pattern tension and same-rl-pattern framing, and miscellaneous other use of roller language. Pairs, unlike single symbols, don't seem to have an rl set or pair individual to each, at least not from what I've observed to now.
Rl sets and pairs, except the natural set's, create an 'unnatural' condition to deriving from the natural set and going their own individualistic path: Chart interpretation becomes based on this 'unnatural' set, and thus the interpretation of the given chart in this post only serves as a basic understanding to roller language. Inter-pattern reasoning turns more complex, and one has to, at least with stocks, strive to find stocks that are easier to interpret.
Also, this example excludes castles. This is a good thing, because stating obviously one's stability in turn exposes it to other patterns using and even warping its stability and further use of the natural set within that symbol's chart. Finally, this example does not describe conflicting interests, such as a chart area repeating without ever really looking like roller language within its confines, or at least, through lots of repeating, copying, flipping and other warpings of that one chart area, negating the benefit of using rl with and within the chart area. You could call such an area as containing an undivided pattern of 'energy', as a proxy to calling it some made-up name; that is, you could call a chart area with such properties an energy set or pattern.
Forex, now that I think of it, plays with the notion of roller language, it's so experienced (lots of users/traders creating it with lots of capital; in stocks, the company a stock represents is trying to sell a complex idea, thus its individualistic rl set (less so, if a pair) is more complex and thus more likely to be more an energy set than a set with differentiated (rl) patterns) and it uses more than one symbol in its chart (being a pair.) These two conditions allow lots of energy sets and thus the availability of new patterns being named, such as the 'bird of prey' (or flight o' bird) pattern, to deal with them; and, in forex, at least up to now that I've seen, no derivation of the natural set exists, so roller language in forex has a lot to do with the above given chart and its explanation, if only between these sometimes-named energy sets and thus broken into areas more serving these energy sets than playing off each other in a string of rl patterns as in the given chart.

That's all there is to roller language. Rl creates a new paradigm for understanding charts."

opp-balance method -- renamed:
drawing over appropriate sets of candles (near-)vertical line segments, noting/avoiding less-straight ones
finding patterns that repeat and thus balance with each other, and considering how they balance with each other
things that look similar (sometimes time spacing, only, ties things together under one frame), that are opposing each other
frame them, to recall them together
that which ties things together, in terms of their mutual opposition (x or y axis - wise)



Okay, this method works better.
I struggled and erased many sets of drawn-pattern ideas with the charts below,
and so gave up on this when I returned to the one solid opp-balance / stable pattern I did find: a horizontal straight line of a pattern.
I had quite a bit of drawdown, as one would suspect, trying to trade the swing from one to the other side of this line:



Noticing all this ignoring of any pattern to come along,
it'd be nice to put in some rl. Oh well.

This method is still solid.

What I found,
was that if I just take the first pattern set I draw up, and not keep drawing many pattern sets after erasing the last one -- but recalling what I may've liked about it --
then I get to understand what's actually happening, instead of letting myself get in the way of such a goal.

So the trade below, I did throw a bunch of frames around different opposing/balancing similar areas of the chart,
until I began to feel comfortable with what I noticed.
Then I'd probably also feel comfortable and notice a built-into-MT4 complex, or at least a really solid simple (as in the example above), pattern I could lay down onto the chart.



Here's another example of this slap-and-go frames then special lines around opposite/balancing/similar patterns:



I did another example after this, and totally ignored a huge opposite/balancing/similar patterns set, for the starting clear direction I easily and unfortunately anchored my mind on.
So now, Frame That Opp/balancing/similar Patterns Set is the new name,
and I'd better get with the big / most-clean one of the bunch of frames I figure,
even if I have to redo the same area a dozen times.

This one below, the second chart picture, was so off-key that it had a sort of intrinsic balance all by itself.
And when the second pattern set in the same chart picture was, too, only in a different way,
I decided to go with the midline of the first frame there,
and it paid off.
After that, tho, I was just overwhelmed, and only traded because it was practice and I wanted to figure how to deal with such wacked pattern sets.

It turned out that the second pattern set in the second chart picture started something,
and the similar shape after it -- also a big curve -- picked up on the difference that second pattern set started. I missed this, and thus the trade, tho.



So while this method is tough, it's also right,
and how small-only-on or small-off-but-big-on those pattern sets can get,
the method's still alright.

Okay, this one seems to catch the flow of such a thing,
changing the rhythm up on the patterns' evenness so much:




Arggh.
While the method's solid,
one needs the skill of accepting balance within chaos or visa-versa, by revisiting the same data over and over again.
And I ain't got that, yet.

I made a bit more progress.

This time, the charting method -- still in practice mode -- is about combining my coded-pattern sense of space (p.m. (part of my own ptm)) and time (roller language) as the respective predominant, infinite axis.
Regular chart drawing applies,
but HOW one draws, due to how one thinks of that same chart, must balance when one studies one area -- more space-dominant -- and the sense of how the chart changes over time, basically emulating how it may feel during a trade (or not, depending on the individual, I guess) -- more about time.





-- It's a bit relative to the surrounding candles, with using roller language this way, instead of as with stock's stories or shared news for a bunch of single-country-connected forex symbols. Regardless, if one opens oneself to this relative-possibilities status, rl should work fine.
p.m. is about undoing with an angled straight line, and how balanced with or equal to, and even excluding from other choices or putting into a well-defined range -- this describing exactly five patterns, in order 3), 2) then 4), and 1) then 5).


It seems like more of a struggle with the chart so it can achieve my progression for it,
rather or much less that new-commitment fear of failure:

What do I do? I stick a dollar bill on it, and see if anything goes near it.

Oh, it doesn't have to be a dollar bill -- any country's is fine.

-- That's my new trading method.



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The idea is,
there's two circles on a dollar bill, and a coin is one circle (some of which have a smaller circle in its middle).
As well, a dollar bill is a frame.

So, I dance my drawing around these basic-starter shapes.
The frame can get a little skewed, but its basic meaning -- of surrounding the two circles -- holds.

Example:



A rule about frames that I neglected below, is that whatever has to be on the same side of whatever line connects them:



These types of circles can be closer than usual, one bigger and one smaller or even one so huge that it simply stands alone. This is simply preferring one over the other circle to make lines from it and through the other -- from that to simply being a coin. For a coin, rather than expecting , as in a space-infinite chart, some kind of half-way geometric progression, instead, the special coin acts as a stable-ing factor for the connecting time line, and a line instead of a frame develops, and continues for a while.
Example (somewhat-described) :





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Slight revision of method --

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What do I do? I stick a dollar bill on it, and see if anything goes near it.

Oh, it doesn't have to be a dollar bill -- any country's is fine.

-- That's my new trading method.



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The idea is,
there's two circles (,each with some kind of decoration,) on a dollar bill,
and a coin is one circle (some of which have a smaller circle in its middle).
As well, a dollar bill is a frame.
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Another trading method (practice once, only done in practice -- as always (in last 5y) :

From what I read, energy = potential energy + kinetic energy.
I don't claim to know much about what this means,
but I'm trying a trading method off it.

Potential energy can be considered a set range, and thus a certain amount, of energy, which is, in this case, money.
Energy can be considered a constant, and thus, in this case, time.
That leaves kinetic energy, or the change in money over time.

In the example below,
I set so-called 'potential energy' first, left time alone, and, finally, watched as kinetic energy flowed up and down in waves until a sideways triangle burned-out the wave to one point. Between these points, I lay a Fibo TimeZone with the standard measurements either forward or backward to align with said waves. Finally, I traded when, in this case at least, a couple of triangles and Fibo TimeZones merged enough to suggest a breakout from the noted potential energy's range, one way or the other.
I also used Gann fans, early on and backward and forward, to establish a promising choice of that 'one way or the other'.
Finally, I used a split-in-half vertical box, which also and, in fact, more likely, did establish a new Fibo TimeZone; I guess that, once the zone lines stopped aligning, it was time to start looking for a new something to align with.




-- I liked this method, as I tried it again right after the above test, and, while that 'split-in-half vertical box' appeared more often than I presupposed, I still treated it, along with the rest of the method, the same, and did okay.
The holds are longer than I may want, but I did both keep the exact practice of the method the same and keep my trading account in working order -- the latter even without built-in artificial exits.

P.m. for squiggly lines, since it's based on a dot/position-point being, in some way, what that squiggly line bounces off / works with / etc.
rl for flat lines, since it's based on levels being, in some way, what that flat line bounces off / works with / etc.
Simple and coherent, at least on a first try after a month of other charting methods. (I think I drew each set of shapes a bunch of times(, only now combining them this way.)

Ex.:

Just checking in, haven't even practiced in a good while.

I did get a workable idea in my own-theory-of-mind model rewriting, late yesterday.
One problem is, it tends to slip in and out of 3D often -- I guess I can palm that off to a (con)temporary news event and the new versions of the paths of those people it affects, each of the news events creates.

The workable idea is about describing one's basic drives in a chart way, to guide oneself to a clean exchange.
I've already done this in my ToM model,
so maybe this'll help in trading, as well. I guess I'd have to work up the part in my ToM model that has to deal with trading.

My ToM model finally took on a life of its own -- theoretically, at least.
Since roller language is a decent piece inside it,
maybe I'll separate it out as an exercise to run the whole show (of the ToM model) in, hopefully, an effective production of money from forex(,) trading.

I've made no progress in even pretending to trade;
however, since still redoing my own ptm ( -- denoted as "ToM model, which I now realize is only the early-age version and people, later on, come up with their own thinking model that includes it (most people, of course, not strange enough to write it down (much), much less than even approach while I do)),
I occasionally arrive at a new trading method.

The new one, this time, is below..
The 'K-Cycle' is the famous one that has a slightly different title than that (and I forget the guy's name, although I think it was Eastern European if I recall). The other two, I've discussed in this journal before, again, as I recall, one in the last post. The drawing simply means that news goes to reach out toward the K-Cycle, rl keeps the symbol's chart's levels going as before, and p.m. is whether or not I want to turn into some mess of a current chart and risk a trade; so in another sense, I should simply add when big news is announced and pay attention to the effect of the longterm effects of especially-different chart changes.
This should strike one as rather pedestrian of an approach, but hey, I was merely doing shortterm trades off my erratic emotions! .

Okay, I got a little something. While rl is basically a way of measuring the y axis on a trading chart,
I found in stock trading, when all those financial symbols in the early 2000's went south, that a triangle is a common chart shape for such money-biased symbols.
Well, a chart comparing two currencies would certainly fall into that category also, so I'll give it a try;
anyway, I earlier today figured that the micro- level of K-Cycle (which depends on being so big in data) uses triangles -- and, depending on the symbol's usual ways, especially if two and not one (as with only one financial company's symbol) may perhaps use very set y-axis (i.e., price) levels more often.
That may avoid the news event times, even... or not, especially weekend-near-closure effect, etc.
For the y-axis (i.e., price) levels,
I decided to try out a Fibonacci series - separations of x-axis lines -- the built-in device in MT5 -- and then, since in my own ptm (tm+-cl), e (Euler's number) is, I put in a horizontal line at 2/3s (close to (1-(1/e)), it too then being a fraction like the device) of the Fib device I placed on the chart. I used this below to get past trig/(K-Cycle) issues, which would have saved some drawdown -- Oh, well, trade went through:

Hi, it's been a while. My financial and general life changed dramatically, and I can only say I'm the lucky one (no, not in money).

I am still rewriting my thinking model of everything, and have tried to included chemistry/physics as much as I can -- with no real natural sense of what it means to be basic to all that exists. I'm saying, most people naturally understand about physics in any one instance, yet they sometimes make horrible mistakes (me included, for sure) -- So why shouldn't such a thing have some kind of programmed assistance for anything/one (including (multiple-)living cells)?

Anyway, roller language is now combined with pure math and in a function that produces VSD (digestion and the other two (yeah, those)) for an object's (more-so, a hi-lo level multiple-living-cell one(such as a human)'s). Yeah, the first two ideas are simply a handful of squiggly shapes and the last perhaps overly broad, but I'll try it out.

Charts? It's been a while, I'm still stuck in theory, if only as a rewriting release from everyday life. Well, the model's getting better.... (Yeah, so what.....)

8 months minus 1 week, and no change. Yes, I'm still working on REALL;y getting rl to work: No success yet.

I used charts about a week ago, having made a breakthrough in how to interpret a forex symbol, vs. an in-country small-capitalization company's stock's symbol in a stock market:
Even-steven, almost, between the two currencies, so I simply SIDE-GO the rl shapes and so can, given there is at least difference between the sizes of the countries involved in each of the currencies -- I'd think, or maybe I should just say it makes sense, when one goes sideways on the chart with rl shapes, to... -- ...both split up and widen and shrink the rl shapes as one goes along. Contrasting this with the up-and-down use of rl shapes in the small-capitalization company's stock area of a (personal-trading tested: about all the USA ones, from 1995 to 2001 and 2004 to 2006, as I recall) stock market, it should work about as well. I haven't tested news with this use of rl shapes in the forex market, but I project it could work; for the longest time, I was trying to go chart-only in forex trading -- practice only, as is my typical way since going near-broke in 2006; yet still, figuring I had discovered something worth pursuing in rl and thus in chart-trading in general, or at least took it that way to, I guess, have somewhere to turn to.
Anyway, I do have a chart or two that shows what I mean by sideways use of rl, so I have to post 'em reasonably soon, I guess.

Looking over this thread's page of charts, I find my recent-posts' charts were insightful but lacked coherence. Maybe sideways use of rl will pull them together for an efficient/effective interpretation of a chart as simply-ratioed as a currency-to-currency one.

7 months later:

No real progress on developing roller language into a real, feasible trading method. I didn't even have a computer at home for most of those months....

Anyway, like any other technical charting method, it just denotes the ups and downs -- It, through special candlesticks and, mostly, developed on the 1' chart scale. It's handy for combining news with chart, and can spread usage between -- at least -- stock companies, tested on the smallest, most-likely-to-be or having been on the top 10 to move for a day. It's especial for anchoring the overview of a company at the starting weeks after that company's IPO.

As for applying roller language to forex, it's a little bit trickier, as noted in a post above.

Roller language is a simple set of patterns that can group reasonably easily to make longterm sense of how a company's stock chart acts.


Anyway, I'm trying to apply rl -- as I prefer to refer to it -- to real life. So of course, real life, not rl as much, takes first.


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Just stopping by, it's been a while.

Oh, and I forgot, rl can apply to regular candlesticks, too, it's just a little messier.