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  • #661
  • Sep 4, 2006 4:59am Sep 4, 2006 4:59am
it's v1a in the first post. i am an idiot for not seeing it.
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File Type: mq4 Firebird v63G_fixed.mq4   26 KB | 808 downloads
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  • #662
  • Sep 4, 2006 5:08am Sep 4, 2006 5:08am
Thanks cgldsmth
  • #663
  • Sep 4, 2006 11:48am Sep 4, 2006 11:48am
Quoting mono
Anyway, What I know so far.

Firebird 30-300 test


Firebird IND
Greetings Mono. Just so i get my lingo down here (yes i've read from 1 to 662! and the original thread.)

1) In reference to the above versions. Is the first the 63G (or i suppose it could also be the v1a aren't they basicaly the same?)

2) The "Ind" stands for individual settings and would be the same as our version v1c? "C" for calculate?

Thanks for the clarification.

Cheers,
Thom
  • #664
  • Sep 4, 2006 12:11pm Sep 4, 2006 12:11pm
Accrete version 1.0 c is suppose to be same to the IND from MOno but it calculates the TP PIPSTEP and SL automatically. It is not fixed like the IND. Version 1.0a i essentially the fixed version of 63G. Hope this helps.



Quoting accrete
Greetings Mono. Just so i get my lingo down here (yes i've read from 1 to 662! and the original thread.)

1) In reference to the above versions. Is the first the 63G (or i suppose it could also be the v1a aren't they basicaly the same?)

2) The "Ind" stands for individual settings and would be the same as our version v1c? "C" for calculate?

Thanks for the clarification.

Cheers,
Thom
  • #665
  • Edited 1:34pm Sep 4, 2006 1:15pm | Edited 1:34pm
we need a good indicator of when a currency pair is moving from a ranging to a trending market, perhaps williams%. then we could select the EA for only the ranging pairs. or maybe just using our eyes and drawing higher highs and lower lows. but it's supposed to be automated innit?
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  • #666
  • Sep 4, 2006 1:37pm Sep 4, 2006 1:37pm
over on the other forum strategybuilderfx there is thread about a daily breakout system which probably work good when the firebird does not.

why can't you just run both systems at once?

when market is sideways firebird will do good and breakout not. when in a nice trend the breakout will work good and firebird not.

makes sense to me.

trying it on demo right now.
  • #667
  • Sep 4, 2006 1:53pm Sep 4, 2006 1:53pm
Quoting HAGeek
over on the other forum strategybuilderfx there is thread about a daily breakout system which probably work good when the firebird does not.

why can't you just run both systems at once?

when market is sideways firebird will do good and breakout not. when in a nice trend the breakout will work good and firebird not.

makes sense to me.

trying it on demo right now.
Are you speaking of Hans123's Simple Combined Breakout System?
  • #668
  • Sep 4, 2006 2:22pm Sep 4, 2006 2:22pm
thats the one.

still in process of reading the thread... up to page 349.

i think i fried some of my brain cells.

what you think of the idea?
  • #669
  • Sep 4, 2006 2:40pm Sep 4, 2006 2:40pm
Quoting HAGeek
thats the one.

still in process of reading the thread... up to page 349.

i think i fried some of my brain cells.

what you think of the idea?
I was using an EA with that system until summer started. I only like that system during heavy trends. I don't think I would run both systems all the time.
My real hope is one of the versions of Firebird with the correct settings or modifications will handle trends. Near break even or small loss performance in trends would be fine do to the great performance Firebird achieves the rest of the time.
I might PM you in a few days about the other system. I don't want to get this thread off track.
  • #670
  • Sep 4, 2006 2:42pm Sep 4, 2006 2:42pm
Greetings all.

Yardie; Thanks for the reply. Good info. I think that our resource page needs the "IND" version, so if someone wants to email it to me or post the post # i'll get it on our resource page?

cgldsmth,HAGeek,nvwine...yaya. I think this train of thought/experimenting could yeild profits.

Question on v1c code: Scrolling down inside the code i see that each pair listed has an OpeningHours and ClosingHours set to i'm thinking the actual market of that pair. Does the global OH/CH settings, that i now have set to 0/24/running all day, override the individual pair's OH/CH settings? Or are these pointing to different chores (i think that is the wrong word, but you get the idea?)

Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Thom
  • #671
  • Sep 4, 2006 3:35pm Sep 4, 2006 3:35pm
Quoting nvwine
I was using an EA with that system until summer started. I only like that system during heavy trends. I don't think I would run both systems all the time.
My real hope is one of the versions of Firebird with the correct settings or modifications will handle trends. Near break even or small loss performance in trends would be fine do to the great performance Firebird achieves the rest of the time.
I might PM you in a few days about the other system. I don't want to get this thread off track.
hi,
i am testing firebird with mono's setting and default-setting, and i see good result with large float. I think it' s possible find a time-zone in which EA con operate with stable result. We can considerate a couple of indicator to identify trend-market or manage (closing) the highest loss-orders after n-days without "tear up" the equity line.

regards
giapel
  • #672
  • Sep 4, 2006 4:15pm Sep 4, 2006 4:15pm
just closing any open trades that are longer than 1 week old?
  • #673
  • Sep 4, 2006 4:43pm Sep 4, 2006 4:43pm
Quoting HAGeek
just closing any open trades that are longer than 1 week old?
it' s possible, but i think it is not the better solution, because we must protect the equity line. My idea is to accept loosing-trades to maintein a stable profit. In fact, in my tests EA collects only positive-trades.

regasrd

giapel
  • #674
  • Sep 4, 2006 4:45pm Sep 4, 2006 4:45pm
Quoting accrete
Greetings Mono. Just so i get my lingo down here (yes i've read from 1 to 662! and the original thread.)

1) In reference to the above versions. Is the first the 63G (or i suppose it could also be the v1a aren't they basicaly the same?)

2) The "Ind" stands for individual settings and would be the same as our version v1c? "C" for calculate?

Thanks for the clarification.

Cheers,
Thom
Yes, I suppose so, I haven't checked or used the one's the guy's have created. I tend to fix my own version.

I've attacted them on the bottom, the fixed version settings for divergence is in pips. (so a setting of 20, is the same as a 0.0020 for non jappy pairs and 0.20 for jappy)
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File Type: mq4 Firebird v63G.mq4   25 KB | 488 downloads
File Type: mq4 Firebird v63G_Fixed.mq4   25 KB | 476 downloads
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  • #675
  • Sep 4, 2006 9:04pm Sep 4, 2006 9:04pm
Quoting traderone
Going on two pair only (EURUSD and USDCHF) on a $4000 account and .1 lots each.

Settings will be 25 TP, 15 pipstep, 250 SL for both pair.

FB 63G on M1 charts.

Actually I was considering running H02 with the same settings and a safe area of 40, but I have decided to go Original 63G.
Traderone,

I have used 63H02 on a demo account for 16 trading days for an average return of 234 pips/day. My settings are Mono's 30TP, 300SL, .05 percent, with a Safe area of 40. This was starting with a $5000 account. I have gradually increased my lot size starting with .1 lots and increased lot size up to .3 based on their overall profitability and lower float. I will continue to do this as the equity increases and see wher it takes me. I use V. 1b2 on my live account but it carries a higher float. I may switch it to the 63H02 depending on how the accounts do next week. Also, I trade the 4 majors + Eur/JPY. Again, I will be evaluating these and may drop one or two.

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  • #676
  • Sep 4, 2006 9:08pm Sep 4, 2006 9:08pm
Quoting mr.trader
kingforex,

/*if ( (iFXAnalyser(0,MODE_DIV,0)>DVLimit*Point
&& iFXAnalyser(0,MODE_SLOPE,0)>0 )
|| (iFXAnalyser(0,MODE_DIV,0)<-DVLimit*Point
&& iFXAnalyser(0,MODE_SLOPE,0)<0 ) ) { Comment("trending market!");} else {// included by Renato*/

This is the useage code for iFX analyzer, the /* on the beginning form the code block means that it is disactivated... That never can go good on the long run... further i compare the version with mines, there are many difference in code...

However, i see in your statement you turned the SL down, never set them under 300... this system needs place to breath... my oppinion is that also this SL is t close, maybe take 400 - 450 pips for some pairs... But don´t forget, trade max. 0.1 lot per pair and also min 1k $ account volume per pair.

That means: On a 5k $ mini account (1:200 leverage, better more) trade max 5 pairs with 0.1 Lot, than you should be protrected from Margin calls and too big losses ! Note, 70% of time market is ranging so firebird will perform well, with SL 400 - 450 pips you will also alive big trends. A good idea is also to have a bigger pipstep, my pipstep amount minimum steted as high as TP.

Hope this helps,

mr.trader
Kingforex stated in recent post that he did not manually close out the trades, but all of the trades were closed prematurely, probably for the reason stated above...they were probably margin calls...

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  • #677
  • Sep 4, 2006 9:13pm Sep 4, 2006 9:13pm
Quoting traderone
My experience running several Firebird versions thru NFP and all other news events has been just fine.

It is the big, steady trend one direction that worries me.
Traderone,

Even in a steady trend there are always retracements as it works its way up or down. Probably the hedging version will work best in this market. We will all just have to experiment and go with the flow and make adjustments with the market. Happy trading!

1Trader2
  • #678
  • Sep 4, 2006 9:20pm Sep 4, 2006 9:20pm
So... what is the latest official version?
  • #679
  • Sep 4, 2006 9:59pm Sep 4, 2006 9:59pm
I don't have the slightest clue of how to program this, but here's my idea for detecting a trending market in regards to firebird. Have firebird look at the past 96 hours in one hour increments and have it compare the highest high vs the lowest low. To get the answer to the question of if we're in a trend or not, we have FB compute the percentage change in over all price between the high and low. If the cumulative total is say +.75% from ninety six hours ago, firebird goes into silent mode not placing trades until the percentage differential comes back down to say .5%. If the largest deviation occurs in less than say thirty six hours, we let firebird roam, but if the deviation is taking place and growing between thirty six to ninety six hours, we have firebird dive again until the time is right to surface. This is obviously just a rough sketch so far, so please do give some opinions on the idea.





BK, the latest versions can be found at Accrete's resource page.
  • #680
  • Sep 4, 2006 11:32pm Sep 4, 2006 11:32pm
Quoting BurgerKing
So... what is the latest official version?
BurgerKing, i know your question is sincere...but i almost fell off my chair laughing. This thread has so many versions you've just got to laugh! Trust me i'm laughing with you on this. The FB resource page has all the latest versions including those that mono just posted above.

Hope this helps a bit and you are smiling : )
Thom
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