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  • #2,121
  • Jan 11, 2017 10:30am Jan 11, 2017 10:30am
AUDCHF Daily
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Never Ever Give Up!
  • #2,122
  • Jan 11, 2017 10:47am Jan 11, 2017 10:47am
Quoting Mercennary
Hello all, I just took a loss on GY and I'm seeking some advice for possible reasons for the bad outcome, my analysis was as follow, blue arrows mark entry and exit: Daily: Momentum is down and we hit low part of the curve on a fresh DZ, should expect buy order there. H4: Momentum also down and entered Fresh H4 Dz inside Daiy Dz H1: Confirmation entry on break of trendline momentum and retest of fresh Dz created. Price staled above and finally takes out the H1 Dz (my stop was bellow Dz). Did I missed something? God bless {image} {image} {image}
Hi,

you are did daily counter trend also do it well for wait confirmation entry. But look at engulfing pattern on h1 that you confirmed as demand zone. this engulf is very wide, already tested and departure is not 2:1. Profit Margin is not 3:1 because on the left price comes to daily demand by drop-base-drop, small supplies.
  • #2,123
  • Jan 11, 2017 12:10pm Jan 11, 2017 12:10pm
GBPJPY
hello AKT and T.I.O.F traders. I just got in this trade and posting it for guidance . my thought process on the chart.
WEEKLY
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baby steps...
It is not over until I win
  • #2,124
  • Jan 11, 2017 12:38pm Jan 11, 2017 12:38pm
Quoting Mercennary
Hello all, I just took a loss on GY and I'm seeking some advice for possible reasons for the bad outcome, my analysis was as follow, blue arrows mark entry and exit: Daily: Momentum is down and we hit low part of the curve on a fresh DZ, should expect buy order there. H4: Momentum also down and entered Fresh H4 Dz inside Daiy Dz H1: Confirmation entry on break of trendline momentum and retest of fresh Dz created. Price staled above and finally takes out the H1 Dz (my stop was bellow Dz). Did I missed something? God bless {image} {image} {image}
Hello Mercennary
Thank you for sharing this trade with us. Much appreciated.

The one thing i see and i think is a common issue is the use of trend lines and the zone that breaks the trend line

On you 60min chart, the area that removed the trend line ws just that, an area. It had such a bad structure with no clear basing i.e order-flow, no significant move away, not enough profit margin etc.

So the lesson is even if a trend line is removed we still need a clear and compelling demand or supply zone to trade at. In this case we didn't have that

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,125
  • Jan 11, 2017 12:46pm Jan 11, 2017 12:46pm
Quoting karasinga
GBPJPY hello AKT and T.I.O.F traders. I just got in this trade and posting it for guidance . my thought process on the chart. WEEKLY gbpjpy weekly sd analysis.png;2136061 DAILY gbpjpy sd daily anaysis.png;2136065 H4 gbpjpy sd h4 analysis.png;2136067 baby steps... {image} {image} {image}
Hello karasinga
Thank you for sharing your though to process.
It makes sense.

A few notes...
best wishes
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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,126
  • Jan 11, 2017 12:50pm Jan 11, 2017 12:50pm
on my radar
AUDUSD:
Potential short 
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your comments and criticism are welcomed. addicted to the market until I learn its tricks.
baby steps...
It is not over until I win
  • #2,127
  • Jan 11, 2017 1:00pm Jan 11, 2017 1:00pm
Quoting Shuterdown
AKT, Thank you for your teaching on S/D it has enhanced my Futures trading. Just closed this trade for 25 ticks....the target was higher but I'm satisfied. 5 min. Gold trade S/D with lvls. of confluence. Screenshot2.png;2134417 {image}
this looks not good for SaD traders...


Quoting Cobra
AUDCHF Daily {image}
you need to practice SaD with bollinger bands, there are some examples on the www.

Greets
Joe
  • #2,128
  • Jan 11, 2017 1:08pm Jan 11, 2017 1:08pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello karasinga Thank you for sharing your though to process. It makes sense. A few notes... best wishesgbpjpy d ff.PNG;2136113gbpjpy 4hr ff.PNG;2136116 {image} {image}
I appreciate your quick response and notes AKT. will manage this aggressively with the potential obstacles on the way.
baby steps...
It is not over until I win
  • #2,129
  • Jan 11, 2017 1:46pm Jan 11, 2017 1:46pm
Quoting Michele86
{quote} Hi, you are did daily counter trend also do it well for wait confirmation entry. But look at engulfing pattern on h1 that you confirmed as demand zone. this engulf is very wide, already tested and departure is not 2:1. Profit Margin is not 3:1 because on the left price comes to daily demand by drop-base-drop, small supplies.
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Mercennary Thank you for sharing this trade with us. Much appreciated. The one thing i see and i think is a common issue is the use of trend lines and the zone that breaks the trend line On you 60min chart, the area that removed the trend line ws just that, an area. It had such a bad structure with no clear basing i.e order-flow, no significant move away, not enough profit margin etc. So the lesson is even if a trend line is removed we still need a clear and compelling demand or supply zone to trade at. In this case we didn't have...
Thanks for the reply, Looking back there wasn't no significant away, which is the most important aspect of the setup..I find hard to pass setups, I mean, psychologically speaking, that feeling of missing out creeps in everytime.

thanx a lot
thinking outside the box
  • #2,130
  • Jan 11, 2017 6:13pm Jan 11, 2017 6:13pm
Hello everyone

best wishes

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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,131
  • Jan 11, 2017 6:25pm Jan 11, 2017 6:25pm
Quoting Mercennary
{quote} {quote} Thanks for the reply, Looking back there wasn't no significant away, which is the most important aspect of the setup..I find hard to pass setups, I mean, psychologically speaking, that feeling of missing out creeps in everytime. thanx a lot
Hello Mercennary

Thank you so much for your honest post. I have read it so many times because it is so important, the subject you bring up, one i love and focus on very closely,
the psychological side to trading S.A.D

The more i read your post the more i think i need to talk more about this aspect going forward. Many of us like i said in the video know the rules which is great and necessary; however, there is more to it than that, as many will find as they progress in their trading careers.

I say this often to my traders, "It is never about the methodology, it is always about the trader applying the methodology".

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,132
  • Jan 11, 2017 6:48pm Jan 11, 2017 6:48pm
Hello Akt,

Thank you so much for touching on both the psychology side, as well as using other indicators. As a trader that started out as a scalp trader, it has been very difficult for me not to take profit and run. I battle this with every trade, it makes it more difficult when you see profits erode. I have had many trades stopped out, then run to targets, also the scalper in me, that sometimes put my stops too close. I am working on these issues, but it is helpful to know that most have similar issues. I truly believe the psychology is about 75% of trading, and finding the setup is about 25%. Whether it is waiting for the setup to form, or sticking to the plan once the trade has been entered. My 2 cents on that subject.

As far as indicators. While SAD is newer to me, I have found that using confluences has helped me. I use Yearly and Monthly Pivot Point confluences, as well as Market Profile in S/D zones to help with confidence.

Anyway, I thank you, and everyone else who post here for helping me with my journey. All comments, and questions help. Trading is a lonely world, I wish we had a chatroom to communicate more frequently. Much like a community roundtable.
Thank you again,
Scott
  • #2,133
  • Jan 11, 2017 11:16pm Jan 11, 2017 11:16pm
UPS - another long opportunity. We have 3 timeframes in uptrend which is good odds. We have weekly demand which is currently being tested (and daily demand nested into). We have weekly ema20 influence which is another odds enhancer. Waiting for trendline break in H4 for my entry.

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  • #2,134
  • Jan 12, 2017 12:30am Jan 12, 2017 12:30am
Took a more methodical attempt this time.

M (Downtrend, Monthly Supply In Control)
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W
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D (There is a potential short position upcoming)
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Side Note: Really enjoyed the discussions around here! Again, welcoming any comments regarding this setup.
  • #2,135
  • Jan 12, 2017 12:50am Jan 12, 2017 12:50am
Quick question:
Does this wick back (marked with blue arrow) into demand while still in departure makes the zone unfresh?

regards
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thinking outside the box
  • #2,136
  • Jan 12, 2017 1:13am Jan 12, 2017 1:13am
Quoting TophatTrader
Took a more methodical attempt this time. M (Downtrend, Monthly Supply In Control) NZDUSD_M.png;2136760 W NZDUSD_W.png;2136759 D (There is a potential short position upcoming) NZDUSD_D.png;2136767 Side Note: Really enjoyed the discussions around here! Again, welcoming any comments regarding this setup. {image} {image} {image}
Hi, this setup is big opportunity for SD traders like AudUsd, because is very correlated...possible kiwi works when aussie will works well.
  • #2,137
  • Jan 12, 2017 1:53am Jan 12, 2017 1:53am
Quoting Michele86
{quote} Hi, this setup is big opportunity for SD traders like AudUsd, because is very correlated...possible kiwi works when aussie will works well.
Good point! Will have a look at all correlating pairs, would be a good weekend analysis for me. Will post more if I find more opportunities.

Great video AKT!

[2 post p/ week goal *tick*] !
  • #2,138
  • Jan 12, 2017 3:30am Jan 12, 2017 3:30am
Took Michele86 advice and looked at some correlated pairs.

Found this pair for a nice 4HR setup.

WK (A clear down trend trend line, Supply In Control, very close to the WK D zone, but couldn't touch it)
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D (Nice little break of a downward trend line forming a nice little Supply Zone)
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4HR (Confluence on a 4HR and D Supply Zone, with a good 1:3 R:R) Had to take it.
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  • #2,139
  • Jan 12, 2017 3:46am Jan 12, 2017 3:46am
Quoting TophatTrader
Took Michele86 advice and looked at some correlated pairs. Found this pair for a nice 4HR setup. WK (A clear down trend trend line, Supply In Control, very close to the WK D zone, but couldn't touch it) AUDUSD_W.png;2137203 D (Nice little break of a downward trend line forming a nice little Supply Zone) AUDUSD_D.png;2137200 4HR (Confluence on a 4HR and D Supply Zone, with a good 1:3 R:R) Had to take it. AUDUSD_4HR.png;2137197 {image} {image} {image}
Yes i am in this trade...daily, weekly, monthly down...
  • #2,140
  • Jan 12, 2017 5:52am Jan 12, 2017 5:52am
hello everyone,

i am still going through the hole thread i've already watched b.t.b videos - and again - thank You Akt, great job, respect.
the question to these traders who are familiar with trendlines asspect, could you please answer which one from the screen below is the correct trendline? thank you in advance.
regards,s.
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