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  • Jan 5, 2017 5:00pm Jan 5, 2017 5:00pm
  •  Boulder
  • Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Member | 19,853 Posts
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{quote} It all depends on your risk tolerance, personally to me not matter if it goes to $6k or $8k or $10k because its still a small amount of my overall investment potential. If you have a total of $10,000 to trade with then its a different story, lot size should only be 5-10k lots, so 3000 pips is $1500-$3000 or less. Not take years because average month pips is 2200 so return to equity high is short time. The crucial equation is average month pips/expected worst drawdown as this defines how long to return to equity high. If a system only return...
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Dax: Thank you for the enlightenment.I am going to create diversified portfolio, let my system run, besides taking stop loss,I can also do total equity loss. if it hits total equity loss level, all open positions are closed.
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  • Jan 5, 2017 8:12pm Jan 5, 2017 8:12pm
  •  harry99
  • | Joined Apr 2011 | Status: Member | 44 Posts
Quoting dax30
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{quote} It all depends on your risk tolerance, personally to me not matter if it goes to $6k or $8k or $10k because its still a small amount of my overall investment potential. If you have a total of $10,000 to trade with then its a different story, lot size should only be 5-10k lots, so 3000 pips is $1500-$3000 or less. Not take years because average month pips is 2200 so return to equity high is short time. The crucial equation is average month pips/expected worst drawdown as this defines how long to return to equity high. If a system only return...
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Dax, thanks for the clarification.
The age old problem of DD still remains then! I was hoping you had made a breakthrough

What happens if it goes to beyond -10k or even -20k. You must have some 'pull the plug' value.

No one like accepting a loss, but the problem risks getting bigger and bigger. The capital backing the 'right' position is not the issue. Even LTCM proved that to themselves.

I understand that the larger the 'Emergency Close DD', the less likely it will be called in.
My experience is that it usually only delays the ultimate pain, because when it does occur, (and it will), the pain is greater. The Principle of 'Conservation of Pain'.
Most people focus on how to win a trade. Perhaps their focus should be on handling the DD (Small and often, or larger and less often) that definitely will challenge their system, and maybe themselves also.

Getting a handle on possibility of DD (by backtesting) is useful to some extent. Statistics are a great thing, but because we are dealing with 'as good as random' movements, especially on the lower TFs they are determined more by luck than 'skill' at entry. The large gray duck may hit 2 or even 3 times in quick succession!!
Mind you, with some common sense input, you can stretch out the lucky period - just not forever.
I find the main concept to grasp is not to confuse 'skill' and 'luck'. You are probably well aware of that. Not sure all readers here are. Maybe too much money?

Just my take on the DD problem.

You probably have the best path to the future with managing other peoples money. They take the risk. You take the profit. Might try it myself. Got a couple of EAs which make profit (most of the time)! Just got to talk with PT Barnam.

By the way, thanks for the demo EA you sent. I assume part of your grand plan is to 'negotiate' a live account version? You have collected my email address, so will wait and see what happens next!! I will not bother testing it.

Good luck and may your 'skill' continue.
harry
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  • Jan 6, 2017 4:04am Jan 6, 2017 4:04am
  •  dax30
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Mar 2016 | 76 Posts
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{quote} Dax, thanks for the clarification. The age old problem of DD still remains then! I was hoping you had made a breakthrough What happens if it goes to beyond -10k or even -20k. You must have some 'pull the plug' value. No one like accepting a loss, but the problem risks getting bigger and bigger. The capital backing the 'right' position is not the issue. Even LTCM proved that to themselves. I understand that the larger the 'Emergency Close DD', the less likely it will be called in. My experience is that it usually only delays the...
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TBH its not in nature of system to have continued and continued losses because using partial hedging so always have win positions in any case. I have over 2 years real trading on system, so have good idea of DD expectation. Yes, it can exceed, but this is the risk i am willing to take to get the gains.
If client wants no risk, then no problem, Bank of America offering 1.5% interest per annum.
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  •  dax30
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Mar 2016 | 76 Posts
Quoting harry99
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{quote} Dax, thanks for the clarification. The age old problem of DD still remains then! I was hoping you had made a breakthrough What happens if it goes to beyond -10k or even -20k. You must have some 'pull the plug' value. No one like accepting a loss, but the problem risks getting bigger and bigger. The capital backing the 'right' position is not the issue. Even LTCM proved that to themselves. I understand that the larger the 'Emergency Close DD', the less likely it will be called in. My experience is that it usually only delays the...
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Even $8Billion Hedge Funds are not exempt from losses. This major fund lost 50%.
http://www.leaprate.com/2017/01/odey...es-50-in-2016/
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  •  tomson
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Sep 2013 | 992 Posts

  1. Balance: hidden
  2. Unrealized: hidden
  3. Equity: hidden

Please open and show live results with myfxbook, your account is demo = not show WITHDRAWALS

Also your system generated big drawdown, so very risk

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  • Jan 6, 2017 10:50am Jan 6, 2017 10:50am
  •  dax30
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Mar 2016 | 76 Posts
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Balance: hidden Unrealized: hidden Equity: hidden Please open and show live results with myfxbook, your account is demo = not show WITHDRAWALS Also your system generated big drawdown, so very risk
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check again.
5 live accounts, all shows open lots etc.
no demos,
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  • Jan 6, 2017 11:17am Jan 6, 2017 11:17am
  •  mbolton
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Hi All, I wish to give a new 2017 EA gift to all subs. EA is called ATR, based on momentum defined by ATR increase on 4 hour bar. Backtest: http://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/d...py4hour/112190 If you move to bottom of backtest you can see monthly pips, see attached screengrab. Same settings since 2011. No over optimisation, this stand the test of time. Not win every month, but will win every year. Nearly 8000 pips since 2011 on GBPJPY only. Works on 4 hour GBPJPY best, 4 hour GBPUSD next. User can play with settings. I will load...
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I worry about what you are trying to sell here Dax!

I have just created an EA which produces almost identical results to yours - not based on momentum defined by ATR increase or anything like that - purely buy if the previous bar was a buy with a difference in Open/Close > your F7Factor value and sell if the previous bar was a sell with a difference in Open/Close > your F7Factor

Does that sound about right.....?

For anyone interested EA is attached.
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File Type: ex4 DAX30.ex4   11 KB | 213 downloads
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  •  Encorep202
  • | Joined Oct 2012 | Status: Member | 182 Posts
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{quote} I worry about what you are trying to sell here Dax! I have just created an EA which produces almost identical results to yours - not based on momentum defined by ATR increase or anything like that - purely buy if the previous bar was a buy with a difference in Open/Close > your F7Factor value and sell if the previous bar was a sell with a difference in Open/Close > your F7Factor Does that sound about right.....? For anyone interested EA is attached. {file}
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You can post the MQL4 source file. Kindly.
Thank you
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  •  mbolton
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{quote} You can post the MQL4 source file. Kindly. Thank you
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Sure - it's attached


Mark.
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  • Jan 6, 2017 1:23pm Jan 6, 2017 1:23pm
  •  Boulder
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{quote} Sure - it's attached Mark. {file}
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mbolton- Test your EA for Eur/Usd for last month, not even a signal trade is triggered,. am I missing something?
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  • Jan 6, 2017 1:39pm Jan 6, 2017 1:39pm
  •  dax30
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Mar 2016 | 76 Posts
Quoting mbolton
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{quote} I worry about what you are trying to sell here Dax! I have just created an EA which produces almost identical results to yours - not based on momentum defined by ATR increase or anything like that - purely buy if the previous bar was a buy with a difference in Open/Close > your F7Factor value and sell if the previous bar was a sell with a difference in Open/Close > your F7Factor Does that sound about right.....? For anyone interested EA is attached. {file}
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Hi,
the EA i sent out is based on ATR changes of previous bar.
If ATR range low/high exceeds ATR (average) by a certain "factor" over last (XXX) period, then buy/sell.
So, it picks up big moves in GBPJPY 4 hours bar, but at start of move, no point buying on 2 or 3 or 4th bar.
A variety of indicators can used in momentum based systems, ATR just one of them. (but a good one!)

Good luck with your EA!!
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  •  oztrader79
  • Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 594 Posts
Good to see a positive thread demonstrating that one can make consistent profits in fx. Not easy but possible. I've decided to finally add my trade explorer, just to show it's possible to make consistent profits (after years of losing first!).
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  •  CapricornEA
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Nov 2016 | 13 Posts
If you could do 10.000$ everymonth you could be soon making 100000$
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  • Jan 7, 2017 1:53pm Jan 7, 2017 1:53pm
  •  dax30
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Mar 2016 | 76 Posts
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If you could do 10.000$ everymonth you could be soon making 100000$
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10 months......most likely less.
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  • Jan 7, 2017 2:09pm Jan 7, 2017 2:09pm
  •  MoneyZilla
  • Joined Dec 2015 | Status: Bang_OO_Mangos | 3,058 Posts
Could someone kindly explain to me why this otherwise nice tread is now Commercial?
Maybe I am missing something?
I could not find any objective reasoning why would it be a Commercial tread.
Please, those of you in knowledge, enlighten me. Thank you!
Jonny Hatinga. IQ 69.
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  •  BBalazs
  • | Joined Sep 2015 | Status: Member | 495 Posts
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Could someone kindly explain to me why this otherwise nice tread is now Commercial? Maybe I am missing something? I could not find any objective reasoning why would it be a Commercial tread. Please, those of you in knowledge, enlighten me. Thank you!
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The OP offered fund management for those who are interested.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack
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  •  MoneyZilla
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{quote} The OP offered fund management for those who are interested.
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Thank you Sir, for the info. However, I do not know for what OP stands for? As an OP, do you refer to Mr.dax30?
Jonny Hatinga. IQ 69.
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  •  BBalazs
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{quote} Thank you Sir, for the info. However, I do not know for what OP stands for? As an OP, do you refer to Mr.dax30?
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Yes, OP means Original Poster.
Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack
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{quote} Thank you Sir, for the info. However, I do not know for what OP stands for? As an OP, do you refer to Mr.dax30?
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post#165
there is always, always another trade!!
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  •  MoneyZilla
  • Joined Dec 2015 | Status: Bang_OO_Mangos | 3,058 Posts
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{quote} Yes, OP means Original Poster.
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Thank you very much, Sir!

None of my business, but anyone with that kind of astonishing results, like Mr.Dax30's results, will not need any moneys from traders to trade. IN 7 years he will not know how much moneys are there in the bank accounts of his (if brokers pay his profits, in first place, something very very very very hard to do, on beforehand... brokers hate paying big profits. small profits, maybe... but big? yeah, right!)?

I think, Mr.Dax30, by his action with the fund managements, very much reminds me of very great, but quite unlucky trader, recently popular here at FF - GoodBoy. GodBoy I used to call Him. Anyways. Good luck with Moneys. To get Big Moneys, from Brokers(?!?!?) more than Big Lucks are required...
Jonny Hatinga. IQ 69.
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