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  • #2,001
  • Jan 3, 2017 2:20pm Jan 3, 2017 2:20pm
final trades for the day.....this is not to brag but to show what is possible for we retail traders
its a wrap
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  • #2,002
  • Jan 3, 2017 6:54pm Jan 3, 2017 6:54pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello here4dapips, On it. You caught me at my desk Here is what i see. I would be waiting for new 15min zones to appear, if they do, to go short best wishes{image}{image}
@here4dapips & @everyone

Remember this from the day before yesterday?
Pips you asked for the 4hr/1hr/15min combination

the before and after...just to show it is possible to plan a trade from start to finish

best wishes
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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,003
  • Jan 3, 2017 7:08pm Jan 3, 2017 7:08pm
Quoting jsk3010
Hello, too long since I posted but here's a pic of the oil move today. Had limit order set at the 4hr zone but the acc never had sufficient margin at the time of triggering due to being in another trade. I got in on a pullback. This is a 1 hour chart to show it a bit more clearly. {image}
Hello jsk3010

Very nice indeed sir!.
The power of multiple time frames when you know what you are looking for.
Well done

Now, about that dinner you owe me ....

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,004
  • Jan 4, 2017 12:44am Jan 4, 2017 12:44am
Good morning everyone


Thought for today...

"I don't know enough about everything to be pessimistic"...Wayne Dyer.

Show me one thing a pessimist has achieved....just one.

What is actually the definition of a pessimist?

A pessimist is someone who is watching someone else do while he, the pessimist, talks...AKT

Don't be the pessimist, be the do-er.

Live your dreams

As we say here on T.I.O.F,

"It is possible"

Good morning and Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,005
  • Jan 4, 2017 1:10am Jan 4, 2017 1:10am
Hello again everyone,


I currently have been closely following this thread. Yet there are some things that I don't get. If someone would kindly point me in the right direction.
These are the questions I have:
1. How do I draw the supply and demand zones? What rules do I have to follow?
2. What are the entry and exit rules for a bearish or bullish trade?
3. Which time frames are Ideal when trading this method?
  • #2,006
  • Jan 4, 2017 6:03am Jan 4, 2017 6:03am
Hi guys!

If you remember my previous analysis on page 96, here is the outcome! Happy to understand finally institutional order flow:

Just a little doubt, which one would be the optimal TP target?

Thanks!
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  • #2,007
  • Jan 4, 2017 12:23pm Jan 4, 2017 12:23pm
Quoting earldennison
Hello again everyone, I currently have been closely following this thread. Yet there are some things that I don't get. If someone would kindly point me in the right direction. These are the questions I have: 1. How do I draw the supply and demand zones? What rules do I have to follow? 2. What are the entry and exit rules for a bearish or bullish trade? 3. Which time frames are Ideal when trading this method?
Hello earldennison.

If i may, start with the videos on youtube. It has the answers to your questions, i hope

In terms of ideal timeframes, there really is no such thing. It is a very popular question that is often asked , i think because most people
have been used to systems that specify particular time frames they work on.
S.A.D is not one of those.
The methodology works across all time frames from tick/volume charts to yearly charts.
Bear in mind, trading smaller time frames requires more expertise.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,008
  • Jan 4, 2017 12:24pm Jan 4, 2017 12:24pm
Quoting alexelale
Hi guys! If you remember my previous analysis on page 96, here is the outcome! Happy to understand finally institutional order flow: Just a little doubt, which one would be the optimal TP target? Thanks! {image}
Hello alexelale.
Thank you for sharing your trade.
Well done sticking with it.

With regards to exits, if i may suggest to you, please consider using fresh opposing zones as targets

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,009
  • Jan 4, 2017 12:28pm Jan 4, 2017 12:28pm
Quoting earldennison
Hello again everyone, I currently have been closely following this thread. Yet there are some things that I don't get. If someone would kindly point me in the right direction. These are the questions I have: 1. How do I draw the supply and demand zones? What rules do I have to follow? 2. What are the entry and exit rules for a bearish or bullish trade? 3. Which time frames are Ideal when trading this method?
I'd also like more clarity on this. But from what I've gathered I feel the proximal line is drawn at the open or close (depending on how the candle closes) of the basing candle closest to price and the distal line is drawn at the most extreme of the wicks basing candle. I'm also curious as to the logic behind placing the lines at these specific points. What exactly does it mean in terms of where orders are or in terms of supply and demand. Any feedback would be great from the master himself! Thank you!
  • #2,010
  • Jan 4, 2017 8:29pm Jan 4, 2017 8:29pm
Quoting b94od
{quote} I'd also like more clarity on this. But from what I've gathered I feel the proximal line is drawn at the open or close (depending on how the candle closes) of the basing candle closest to price and the distal line is drawn at the most extreme of the wicks basing candle. I'm also curious as to the logic behind placing the lines at these specific points. What exactly does it mean in terms of where orders are or in terms of supply and demand. Any feedback would be great from the master himself! Thank you!
hello b94od. Nice to meet you and welcome to T.I.O.F

Master?? No, no, no

Thank you for the question

A written response would take several pages, besides this particular question is better answered with visuals to help you better understand it.

There is a video on the you-tube channel answering your questions, done back in April 2016.

S.A.D trades imbalances between supply and demand. One of the tasks is to identify what these imbalances look like on a price chart. The lines are placed where the imbalances are.

I hope this helps

Welcome again

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,011
  • Jan 4, 2017 8:31pm Jan 4, 2017 8:31pm
Hello everyone

A trade on AUD/JPY

Best wishes
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  • #2,012
  • Jan 4, 2017 8:43pm Jan 4, 2017 8:43pm
Quoting b94od
{quote} I'd also like more clarity on this. But from what I've gathered I feel the proximal line is drawn at the open or close (depending on how the candle closes) of the basing candle closest to price and the distal line is drawn at the most extreme of the wicks basing candle. I'm also curious as to the logic behind placing the lines at these specific points. What exactly does it mean in terms of where orders are or in terms of supply and demand. Any feedback would be great from the master himself! Thank you!
Hello b940d & earldennison

Your questions got me thinking. You guys are probably not the only ones with these questions, you are just the ones who have been brave enough to speak up.
Thank you for that.

I think it is time to do a back to basics video. The next one will be on the topics you raised.

@earldennison, on the issue of what are the entry and exit rules, that is quite detailed. Suffice to say that basically S.A.D requires we buy when prices are cheap and sell when they are expensive. Multiple time-frame analysis is what we use to help us make these decisions. We look at trends, zones, price location, zone quality. All specific areas in their own right that require an assessment.
Get into the current videos, its all there. All out there for viewing

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,013
  • Jan 5, 2017 1:59am Jan 5, 2017 1:59am
hello everyone..
AUDJPY Trade....
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  • #2,014
  • Jan 5, 2017 2:11am Jan 5, 2017 2:11am
Quoting bleeze
hello everyone.. AUDJPY Trade.... {image} {image}
Morning Bleeze.

If i may please, where was the Supply zone you sold at for this trade?

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,015
  • Jan 5, 2017 2:30am Jan 5, 2017 2:30am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Morning Bleeze. If i may please, where was the Supply zone you sold at for this trade? best wishes
at first i was watching to see if price would make it to the zone that broke the momentum like on the 30mins tf, but it didnt make it to the zone.
then i saw price break that second trend line. i took the short at the retest.


what do you see?
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  • #2,016
  • Jan 5, 2017 5:05am Jan 5, 2017 5:05am
Quoting bleeze
{quote} at first i was watching to see if price would make it to the zone that broke the momentum like on the 30mins tf, but it didnt make it to the zone. then i saw price break that second trend line. i took the short at the retest. what do you see? {image}
Thank you Bleeze.
Much clearer for me now.
Much appreciated

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,017
  • Jan 5, 2017 5:07am Jan 5, 2017 5:07am
Quoting bleeze
{quote} at first i was watching to see if price would make it to the zone that broke the momentum like on the 30mins tf, but it didnt make it to the zone. then i saw price break that second trend line. i took the short at the retest. what do you see? {image}
Hello, i am shorting this h1 supply after clear downtrend trendline on h1.
  • #2,018
  • Jan 5, 2017 6:51am Jan 5, 2017 6:51am
Quoting Michele86
{quote} Hello, i am shorting this h1 supply after clear downtrend trendline on h1.
Hello Michele86
Been a while.

Could you add the chart so we can see the SZ you were referring to please?

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,019
  • Jan 5, 2017 7:17am Jan 5, 2017 7:17am
Hello everyone.

I would like to briefly discuss a topic that is very dear to my heart today.

It is the topic of CHANGE.

In my other life I see people everyday who need/want change.
When they are ready for it, we help them in a small way to bring this change about.

I would like to present you a template that i hope will make a difference in our trading and more broadly speaking, our lives.

I created this template of questions with the individual in mind and it can be applied to any change one is looking to make, in whatever area of life and trading.

Ask these questions of yourself in a time of reflection and thought....i find early mornings a great time.
Any time will work but make sure you are in a reflective thinking state, relaxed and focused.

Let me know how you get on with the exercise please. I would love to know .

Thank you.

Here are the questions:

1. What needs to change?
2. Why must this change happen?
3. What is likely to happen if I don't change?
4. What are the foreseeable benefits of making this change?
5. What if any, are the foreseeable downsides to making this change and are they better than what i have now?
6. What first step do i need to take to begin this change?
7. What do i need to do to maintain this change going forward, until it becomes part of me?
8. How will I know the change is working and serving me for good?

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #2,020
  • Jan 5, 2017 8:56am Jan 5, 2017 8:56am
Quoting bleeze
{quote} at first i was watching to see if price would make it to the zone that broke the momentum like on the 30mins tf, but it didnt make it to the zone. then i saw price break that second trend line. i took the short at the retest. what do you see? {image}
Hello Bleeze,

your trading style is interesting and powerfull. I very appreciate it's sharing. I have one question: What does mean "price make it to the zone"?

Thank you.
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