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  • #21
  • Nov 20, 2016 4:30am Nov 20, 2016 4:30am
tms we disccus trading week
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  • #22
  • Nov 21, 2016 7:12am Nov 21, 2016 7:12am
I honestly do not think there is such a thing. Someone can prove me wrong and send me a PM but there is no strategy that works well. I have been trading for over 15 years and have yet to find just one that works. I am not trying to be negative as I am a very hopeful person, just being honest!! Take it at your own.
  • #23
  • Nov 25, 2016 6:09pm Nov 25, 2016 6:09pm
the best is keep simply.. and your holly grial is your risk management..
  • #24
  • Nov 26, 2016 2:41am Nov 26, 2016 2:41am
Quoting caboss
Hi.. i'm just a noob trader .First of all i'd like to say sorry because of english wasn't my nature language so may incorrect spelling and grammar.Started interesting in forex since 2005 but that time i didnt know much about forex. Plenty of tools signal etc in internet that saying profitable technic, analyze, EA, and much more. That i noticed, forex is like a traditional market where is buyer and seller, just a simple thing. In this market you should know plenty of things in your mind. You cant say fundamentals is the right one to analyze price...
Hey just like one or both of my threads - Support and Resistance, simple horizontal lines, flip trades.
  • #25
  • Nov 26, 2016 2:45am Nov 26, 2016 2:45am
One going up and one going down - spot the entries. Keep it simple.
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  • #26
  • Nov 28, 2016 1:48am Nov 28, 2016 1:48am
indeed the use of the lot is to be adjusted with our trading ability, because by doing so to make we can trade with a maximum. In forex trading, then we need to minimize the risk of forex so well that the capability we need to always increase
  • #27
  • Nov 28, 2016 4:40am Nov 28, 2016 4:40am
Quoting 5aztv88
Hi pros and real traders . as we know there are many strategies for trading , some of them profitable just for some days and some other has not good ratio on winning . so I'm asking please share your best system here . please just share and do not discuses about them .
There is only one successful trading strategy, that is MONEY MANAGEMENT.
No other trading systems or indicators work efficiently for a long term.
NarenRaj
  • #28
  • Dec 9, 2016 8:17am Dec 9, 2016 8:17am
Money management is extremely important but I would say that a decent strategy is more important. Good money management will stop you losing money but you will only make money with a good strategy.
  • #29
  • Dec 13, 2016 12:38am Dec 13, 2016 12:38am
Quoting BBHide1
Money management is extremely important but I would say that a decent strategy is more important. Good money management will stop you losing money but you will only make money with a good strategy.
money management is very important for a well-managed, and it must be by optimizing skills and also the ability of trading that we have so that profit can be obtained with consistent, in carrying out this forex business
  • #30
  • Dec 13, 2016 2:17am Dec 13, 2016 2:17am
There is no 100% working strategy in market and if there is one then why others are going to share their profitable work with you guys..
  • #31
  • Dec 13, 2016 7:49pm Dec 13, 2016 7:49pm
I don’t just jump into a strategy because I hear it is winning. To get profitable sustainable strategy, make sure to optimize it in a demo account before using it on a trade in a real account.
  • #32
  • Dec 13, 2016 11:25pm Dec 13, 2016 11:25pm
Quoting Sharpet
I dont just jump into a strategy because I hear it is winning. To get profitable sustainable strategy, make sure to optimize it in a demo account before using it on a trade in a real account.
it is better to use a demo account in optimizing skills and also the ability of trading we have, because when it plunged into a real account without a science that maximum can not be successful in its run, and the knowledge that the maximum will be able to determine a success in running a business forex trading
  • #33
  • Dec 15, 2016 6:46am Dec 15, 2016 6:46am
Yes there is lots but even as the bulk of us 15 year traders+ know, if we told u it wouldn't matter.. you have to learn it yourself. The biggest issue is you own will power issues no one can help with that. I advise a demo account, a journal, and tons of risk management books.

Try to remember you can never predetermine what the market will do .. you can only build strategies that will allow you to extract maximum allowable profit for set risk... Think about it
  • #34
  • Dec 15, 2016 7:24am Dec 15, 2016 7:24am
Good points raised domino. Risk management is key but sadly most people have to learn the hard way
  • #35
  • Dec 20, 2016 12:51am Dec 20, 2016 12:51am
Quoting BBHide1
Good points raised domino. Risk management is key but sadly most people have to learn the hard way
in studying the forex trading can be done in a demo account, demo account is similar to the difference between a demo account real account using a virtual account if a real account with real money. and are confident in our demo account maximal certainly account his estate will also be maximum
  • #36
  • Dec 21, 2016 6:24am Dec 21, 2016 6:24am
Quoting randalll
{quote} Sounds like solid advice. I started off thinking that "lagging" indicators were some sort of holy grail. I got rid of them all , mostly, i use StochRSI and ATR sometimes. I am studying and learning about the art of price action with respect to support and resistance zones. Here are a few nuggets of wisdom, not originally mine, but what has stuck with me from various books I have read over the last year. Understand that; 1) No holy grail of trading exists. Each system is a reflection of the person who created it. Creating a system is a personal...
Hi Randall

I also like alot of Rayner. The way he sees the big picture.
Top down approach.
20 & 50 ema + ATR
Great stuff and simple to exit & trade
Let Market Tell You
  • #37
  • Dec 23, 2016 6:07am Dec 23, 2016 6:07am
Trading is a zero-sum game. The only viable option is to have very secure and tight risk management whenever you enter the market. Only by curbing the downside risk of risk management, only then trading can be both profitable and sustainable in the longer run.
  • #38
  • Jan 3, 2017 10:53pm Jan 3, 2017 10:53pm
Quoting erud
Trading is a zero-sum game. The only viable option is to have very secure and tight risk management whenever you enter the market. Only by curbing the downside risk of risk management, only then trading can be both profitable and sustainable in the longer run.
risks must be considered in forex trading business, due to the uncontrolled risk can not achieve a success, and it would be better to do continue to learn to maximize your trading skills and capabilities in order to know how to manage risk properly so that the benefits can be obtained
  • #39
  • Jan 3, 2017 11:45pm Jan 3, 2017 11:45pm
Quoting erud
Trading is a zero-sum game. The only viable option is to have very secure and tight risk management whenever you enter the market. Only by curbing the downside risk of risk management, only then trading can be both profitable and sustainable in the longer run.
So tired of this "zero-sum game" expression. It doesn't matter that its a zero-sum game. That has to do with the overall market itself, not to do with trading. People keep throwing that out as if it actually means something to those that are trading.

I don't care what the sum is on the other side of the equation...I also don't care about the small sum collected by my broker. (In fact, I'm ok with that, as that keeps them making money and staying in the business supplying me a cheap means into this marketplace.)

Secure and tight risk management - to do with using stop loss? Yeah, ok. Tight stops eat your capital like a newly popped caterpillar munching on leaves. It will consume so much, so quickly, you will wonder where the hell you money went:
"Oh, I just needed to make that stop 5 pips larger."
"Oh, the market just moved down and hit my stop and then moved back up again. Grrr. Why does this keep happening all the time?!?!"

Risk management is understanding what relative (and likely) risk there is for the market to move against you (with stops, esp. tight stops - very) and how to manage the rare occurrence when there is a large move against your position.

Another ignorant "I always use stop losses" trader that's never tried it properly otherwise, but keeps churning these same old tire cliche's.
  • #40
  • Jan 7, 2017 8:01am Jan 7, 2017 8:01am
Quoting Nefser
{quote} So tired of this "zero-sum game" expression. It doesn't matter that its a zero-sum game. That has to do with the overall market itself, not to do with trading. People keep throwing that out as if it actually means something to those that are trading. I don't care what the sum is on the other side of the equation...I also don't care about the small sum collected by my broker. (In fact, I'm ok with that, as that keeps them making money and staying in the business supplying me a cheap means into this marketplace.) Secure and tight risk management...
Have I complained about my stops being hit or why does something like this keep happening to me? I think that keeps happening to you, thats why your post is so bitter. My trading is shown in my profile so I suggest you first look at it and then make assumptions. I wonder why you dont show your results if you are so good and have such great understanding of the market
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