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  • Jan 1, 2017 11:44am Jan 1, 2017 11:44am
  •  Sixer
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I found the "Fourier_extrapolation" Indicator for MT5 also.
So i can start the check which one of the predictions will show better results by myself.

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  •  mosalem2003
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can you elaborate about this indicator, u use it to extract the dominant fixed cycles in the chart, or you use it to plot projection over it or to test the quality of a prediction using an already exisiting data.

Also, how TS is compared to the Delta Program as u use it ?
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  • Jan 1, 2017 12:56pm Jan 1, 2017 12:56pm
  •  jnevins
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Here is the DJI forecast from LW for 2016 and for comparison the reality. He uses the TS platform but no "Astrology tools". Pls. open a new thread to discuss the "cycles" determination of other underlyings than the EURUSD. Sixer {image} {image}
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Larry joined the Timing Solution Yahoo group this year and is actively learning about Astrological influences on market action. He relied on "Self Similarity" (another module in TS) of price action from the past to describe the future.... His latest post was to a wonderful article on Scribd by James Smithson on rediscovering Gann's methods...

https://www.scribd.com/document/3333...-Gann-s-Method
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John from Perth, Australia wanted to have more information on using Astrolog ( http://www.astrolog.org/astrolog.htm) to find turning points on the 1 min MT4 chart using Vertex... so here is a short 4 min video I made to show the process.

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John from Perth, Australia wanted to have more information on using Astrolog ( http://www.astrolog.org/astrolog.htm) to find turning points on the 1 min MT4 chart using Vertex... so here is a short 4 min video I made to show the process. https://youtu.be/cD6BJ2AqHAI
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Very helpful videos
Thx jerome
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  • Jan 1, 2017 3:13pm Jan 1, 2017 3:13pm
  •  jnevins
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Here is the results of how the week turned out from my prediction, post 7474 from last week... Venus heliocentric, 3rd harmonic was best for timing with the red short term cycle at the bottom adding more detail about entry times. Notice the large overarching thick green and blue lines that rise and stay on the top.... they are Uranus Geo, 100th harmonic.... they helped give an overall contour of upward bias for the week... This was a tougher than usual week to plot for some reason... I do favor the 2nd high on a projection line as the entry point due to the regular occurrence of double tops or double bottoms... a cluster of three highs or lows would be a triple top or bottom....

Will get another chart together for next week soon....
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... and prediction for next week... Monday is a holiday so take that into consideration... Uranus, green, is showing a down trend line overall... I have placed a blue Venus 2nd harmonic line and timing cycle at the bottom....
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  •  jnevins
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One more perspective.. the first chart is last week's price action with the same curves as above with the addition of all peaks in the Q spectrum curve selected from 11 bars to over 1000.... it is a composite of all of those peaks together... and overlaid on the chart... chart 2 is next week... to help draw conclusions about possible PA...
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{quote} Larry joined the Timing Solution Yahoo group this year and is actively learning about Astrological influences on market action. He relied on "Self Similarity" (another module in TS) of price action from the past to describe the future.... His latest post was to a wonderful article on Scribd by James Smithson on rediscovering Gann's methods... https://www.scribd.com/document/3333...-Gann-s-Method
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Thanks Jerry, I was wondering if this feature exists. Self similarity as it would be very helpful to check which year, month, week, day was similat to last one and draw projecgions. I will check a tutorial if any about this module. Thanks for informing about LW interests with TS. Have u been able to reproduce his free euro 2017 outlook using self similarity module?
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{quote} Thanks Jerry, I was wondering if this feature exists. Self similarity as it would be very helpful to check which year, month, week, day was similat to last one and draw projecgions. I will check a tutorial if any about this module. Thanks for informing about LW interests with TS. Have u been able to reproduce his free euro 2017 outlook using self similarity module?
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No, I don't work with that module.... There is enough in TS to keep me busy for several lifetimes! Do you have a link to his Euro projection? I will take a look....
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  •  mosalem2003
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https://www.ireallytrade.com/forecast2017/

This is the link to the page. Euro outlook 2017 is stated there as a bonus. I am wondering which method he used to generate it, whether the similarity module only or the fixed numerical cycle or added also Astro to the equation.
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  •  Sixer
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The comparison for the EURUSD for 2016 how the "Self Similarity" model of the TS is working and the EURUSD outlook for 2017.

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  •  jnevins
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https://www.ireallytrade.com/forecast2017/ This is the link to the page. Euro outlook 2017 is stated there as a bonus. I am wondering which method he used to generate it, whether the similarity module only or the fixed numerical cycle or added also Astro to the equation.
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Can't really say... Here is my version using the "Revealing Astro Cycles module which created a neural net projection. 1st chart is this past year with TS blind to the price data by setting the last line of data it could read to the last day of 2015. The second chart is the 2017 projection...I just marked the lows.... Data is daily data
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The comparison for the EURUSD for 2016 how the "Self Similarity" model of the TS is working and the EURUSD outlook for 2017. Sixer {image} {image}
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Again, not sure what Larry is using exactly but here is what Timing Solution found running the Similarity module

Chart 1: Found a very similar price action in the Euro for most of 2014 to the present. The yellow bar at the bottom shows the similar period to the present. The red line is a simple line graph of the daily close.

Chart 2 shows what price action did over the next 12 months. We know history repeats itself but times change, fundamentals change, new presidents get elected, etc.... But for what it is worth here is the chart...
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  • Jan 2, 2017 12:35am Jan 2, 2017 12:35am
  •  Sixer
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jnevins,

thanks for your outlooks.
I assume that LW is using the 10-years cycle (data from the last 60 years: 1957, 1967, ... , 1997, 2007) for his outlook.

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  • Jan 2, 2017 6:12am Jan 2, 2017 6:12am
  •  Sixer
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mosalem2003,

for your introduction, check these youtube videos:

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  • Jan 2, 2017 11:08am Jan 2, 2017 11:08am
  •  mosalem2003
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Thanks a lot Jerry and Sixer for the great helpful information. A lot of study to be done, which is really interesting. Seems like a lot of modules, tools, type of cycles. I am thinking how we can build a methodical way to generate the most approximate projection that has alignment from most of the tools.like
1 generate using numerical fixed cycle.
2 generate using dominant astro
3 self similarity
4 whatever else
5 project all and compare by back testing many years back.
6 generate the outlook for the next time period daily weekly monthly yearly....
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  •  jnevins
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Thanks a lot Jerry and Sixer for the great helpful information. A lot of study to be done, which is really interesting. Seems like a lot of modules, tools, type of cycles. I am thinking how we can build a methodical way to generate the most approximate projection that has alignment from most of the tools.like 1 generate using numerical fixed cycle. 2 generate using dominant astro 3 self similarity 4 whatever else 5 project all and compare by back testing many years back. 6 generate the outlook for the next time period daily weekly monthly yearly....
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Yes, it is a huge project.... Many variations and almost infinite possibilities. A simple way to begin is to take a fairly focused hypothesis such as "is there an effect when Moon enters Aires and Libra", then back test it and post a chart showing the results... Taking one small idea at a time can help. Each time frame has its own quirks and possibilities... such as my idea of Vertex making aspects or entering houses as a harbinger of a trend change on the 1 min/5 min chart.... The more researchers we have the easier the project will be... I see this as an "open source" project. All too often bits of knowledge are jealously guarded and "sold"... Gann is one of the most notorious in that regard.
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  •  jnevins
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Moly Cam and others... I posted a link to how to set up Astrolog in post 6561... Henry Steele has been using it longer than me. In the following post, I pasted my Astrolog file with all of my settings.... Then is was called astrolog.dat ... now it is the astrolog.as (action script) ... here is my current one set up for EST, tropical, Geo with Vertex and Chiron interacting with the outer planets. Change any of the values you would like and save it again as "astrolog.as" Use notepad to do any editing and save it from notepad. Looking back to 2015, I posted a video showing the Moon interacting with planets for turns in the Euro over the course of a week....

@0309 ; Astrolog (6.00) default settings file astrolog.as
-z 5:00W ; Default time zone [hours W or E of GMT ]
-z0 1 ; Default Daylight time [0 standard, 1 daylight]
-zl 73W39:59 41N30:35 ; Default longitude and latitude
-Yz 0 ; Time minute addition to be used when "now" charts are off.
-n ; Comment out this line to not start with chart for "now".
_s ; Zodiac selection ["_s" is tropical, "=s" is sidereal]
:s 0 ; Zodiac offset value [Change "0" to desired ayanamsa ]
-A 8 ; Number of aspects [Change "5" to desired number ]
-c Null ; House system [Change "Plac" to desired system ]
=k ; Ansi color text ["=k" is color, "_k" is normal ]
:d 48 ; Searching divisions [Change "48" to desired divisions ]
_b0 ; Print zodiac seconds ["_b0" to minute, "=b0" to second ]
=b ; Use ephemeris files ["=b" uses them, "_b" doesn't ]
=C ; Show house cusp objects ["_C" hides them, "=C" shows them ]
_v7 ; Show esoteric rulerships ["=v7" shows them, "_v7" hides them]
:w 4 ; Wheel chart text rows [Change "4" to desired wheel rows ]
:I 80 ; Text screen columns [Change "80" to desired columns ]
-YQ 24 ; Text screen scroll limit [Change "24" or set to "0" for none]
_Yd ; European date format ["_Yd" is MDY, "=Yd" is DMY ]
=Yt ; European time format ["_Yt" is AM/PM, "=Yt" is 24 hour ]
_Yr ; Show rounded positions ["=Yr" rounds, "_Yr" doesn't ]
=YC ; Smart cusp displays ["=YC" is smart, "_YC" is normal ]
_Y8 ; Clip text to end of line ["=Y8" clips, "_Y8" doesn't clip ]

; DEFAULT RESTRICTIONS:
-YR 0 10 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 ; Planets
-YR 11 21 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 ; Minor planets
-YR 22 33 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ; House cusps
-YR 34 42 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ; Uranians
; DEFAULT TRANSIT RESTRICTIONS:
-YRT 0 10 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ; Planets
-YRT 11 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 ; Minor planets
-YRT 22 33 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 ; House cusps
-YRT 34 42 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ; Uranians
-YR0 0 0 ; Restrict sign, direction changes

; DEFAULT ASPECT ORBS:
-YAo 1 5 2 2 2 2 2 ; Major aspects
-YAo 6 11 -180 -180 1 3 2 2 ; Minor aspects
-YAo 12 18 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ; Obscure aspects
; DEFAULT MAX PLANET ASPECT ORBS:
-YAm 0 10 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 ; Planets
-YAm 11 21 360 360 360 360 360 2 2 2 360 360 2 ; Minor planets
-YAm 22 33 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 ; Cusp objects
-YAm 34 42 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 ; Uranians
-YAm 43 43 2 ; Fixed stars
; DEFAULT PLANET ASPECT ORB ADDITIONS:
-YAd 0 10 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ; Planets
-YAd 11 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ; Minor planets
-YAd 22 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ; Cusp objects
-YAd 34 42 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ; Uranians
-YAd 43 43 0 ; Fixed stars

; DEFAULT INFLUENCES:
-Yj 0 10 30 30 25 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 ; Planets
-Yj 11 21 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 ; Minor planets
-Yj 22 33 20 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 15 10 10 ; Cusp objects
-Yj 34 42 5 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 ; Uranians
-YjC 1 12 20 0 0 10 0 0 5 0 0 15 0 0 ; Houses
-YjA 1 5 1.0 0.8 0.8 0.6 0.6 ; Major aspects
-YjA 6 11 0.4 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 ; Minor aspects
-YjA 12 18 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 ; Obscure aspects
; DEFAULT TRANSIT INFLUENCES:
-YjT 0 10 10 10 4 8 9 20 30 35 40 45 50 ; Planets
-YjT 11 21 30 15 15 15 15 30 1 1 1 1 1 ; Minor planets
-YjT 34 42 2 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 ; Uranians
-Yj0 20 10 15 5 ; In ruling sign, exalted sign, ruling house, exalted house
-Yj7 10 10 10 5 5 5 ; Esoteric, Hierarchical, Ray ruling - sign, house

; DEFAULT RAYS:
-Y7C 1 12 17 4 2 37 15 26 3 4 456 137 5 26 ; Signs
-Y7O 0 10 3 2 4 4 5 6 2 3 7 6 1 ; Planets
-Y7O 34 42 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ; Uranians

; DEFAULT COLORS:
-YkO 0 10 Yel Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele ; Planet colors
-YkO 11 21 Mag Mag Mag Mag Mag DkC DkC DkC DkC Yel Cya ; Minor colors
-YkO 22 33 Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele Ele ; Cusp colors
-YkO 34 42 Pur Pur Pur Pur Pur Pur Pur Pur Pur ; Uranian colors
-YkA 1 5 Yel Blu Red Gre Cya ; Major aspect colors
-YkA 6 11 Mag Mag Ora Ora DkC DkC ; Minor aspect colors
-YkA 12 18 DkC Mar Pur Pur Mar Mar Pur ; Obscure aspect colors
-YkC Red Yel Gre Cya ; Element colors
-Yk7 1 7 Red Blu Gre Yel Ora Mag Pur ; Ray colors
-Yk0 1 7 Red Ora Yel Gre Cya Blu Pur ; Rainbow colors
-Yk 0 8 Bla Whi LtG Gra Mar DkG DkC DkB Mag ; Main colors

; GRAPHICS DEFAULTS:
=X ; Graphics chart flag ["_X" is text, "=X" is graphics]
:Xw 371 366 ; Default X and Y resolution
:Xbb ; Bitmap file type
:YXG 1111 ; Glyph selections [Capricorn, Uranus, Pluto, Lilith]
:YXg 20 ; Aspect grid cells
:YX7 600 ; Esoteric ray column influence width
:YXf 2 ; Use actual fonts
:YXp 0 ; PostScript paper orientation
:YXp0 8.5 11.0 ; PostScript paper X and Y inch sizes
:YX -1 16 ; PC hi-res and lo-res graphics modes
; astrolog.as
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  •  jnevins
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EUR/USD Next Week, just Venus and a composite Q spectrum with every cycle selected. 30 min chart EST

I am posting this as a comparison.... how did the model predict last week... to compare to the prediction for the upcoming week, same model. Remember that I am expecting a down week so the areas with the most downward momentum will be where the green line (Venus) and red line (Q Spectrum) agree in a downward direction. Notice the contradictory signals at the start of the market (late opening this week) until the NY open on Jan 3, where the first real down push will happen. During the time of the lines disagreement, expect choppy, indecisive with a downward bias.... The next synchronous down push is shown on Jan 5, Thursday through most of the day... Friday shows an upward bias starting at 01:00 but in this down week, all bets are off....
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