Planetary Cycles Trading (EUR/USD)

Sorry, my fault.

Sixer

Hi Thierry,

Thanks for coming on over to this forum and posting! The Q spectrum works well for me. I use it three ways...

1. Run the Q module and select every peak that is at least + .02 on the left hand scale... there could be 20 such peaks. This gives an overall good view of probable lows and highs but is not precise from a timing point of view.

2. Run the Q Spectrum module and set the min and max parameters to a short period, say 5 bars to 25 bars... choose the highest peak and use it to help time entries on either the 1st case Q spectrum curve or an Astronomy composite module curve.

3. Choose one or more long term peaks, over 200 bars to assist in the overall contour of the market over the course of the week.

Can you discuss in more detail how you use the horizontal ephemeris?

Here is a Venus helio 1st harmonic curve with 10% orb smoothing and oscillator set to very fast. 30 min data Euro....

The 2nd smaller chart shows an 11.2 bar Q Spectrum low on the Venus line and a better entry, very close to the low for the week so far. BTW, I did not load any data for this week on that chart so it was completely blind to the price action this week.

An article from David Hickson, the developer of the Sentient Trader software, about the Nominal model (Hurst cycles).

Sixer

I am interested to study and pursue cyclical analysis to my trading as well. It seems you are experts and also good users even on intra-day basis!
Few questions:
1- Is it essential to license the TS or is there any open source to start study? I believe they don't provide demo ?
2- What are the main astro cycles for major in forex , Gold, Oil, SPX500, etc ?
for example, if moon cross 180 is reversal point for EU, is there an MT4 indicator for it , and the same applicable for all. I mean that if there is already an existing set of fixed or astro cycles for particular asset classes like forex, commodities or indexes,etc - I would appreciate to point a reference to it, rather than re-inventing the wheel.
3- I have seen that few noted traders using the TS for their annual 2017 forecast for stocks and main asset classes. Is there a ready templates in TS to do it ? or it is subjective to the end user research only? I would like to mainly forecast the EU, GU, and USDX and EurGBP on daily chart for 2017 in addition to Gold, Silver, Oil, SPX500 for example.
4- Are there MT4 indicators to use?
5- Is there a feature for TS to predict daily intra-day directional premise and high/low and its time based on fixed or astro intra-day cycles?
I am interested to know if cycles can be valid on intra-day basis specially the astro ones?

Thanks for your time...

Hello Mosalem2003,

Welcome to this forum and thank you for posting. I consider myself a student and not an expert. My hope is to bring together students who in good faith, want to learn more about the predictive possibilities of cyclical analysis in the tradition of Gann and Hurst, using modern tools such as Timing Solution Software.

1. I requested a demo from the author of TS and was given access. After several months of using it and being a member of the TS Yahoo users group, I was invited to purchase the program which I did. Right now Sergey and his family are sick with a bad cold and taking a few days off from the internet. Requests should be put on hold for a few days....

2. I have only been studying EUR/USD in an effort to know one instrument more deeply. MT4 Astro indicators for cyclic predictions involving the ephemeris are few. I have been advocating using the free Astrolog program and finding correlations for movements on an MT4 chart. The human eye is one of the best research tools. Sixer posted a link to the Larry Pesavento book that can point you in the right direction, just a couple of posts ago. I just posted a link to one of the giants of cyclical thinking, J.M Hurst.

3. Yes, there are hundreds of studies and templates built into TS.

4. Not as many as we would like... again Sixer was kind enough to post a powerful mt4 cyclical indicator just a couple of posts back.

5. Yes, the tools are there. I have been looking into intraday astro cycles .... Here is an example using free tools however.... see the chart below. On the 1 min EUR/USD, I have had a theory of how Vertex travels around the Astrolog chart 360 degrees each day and makes aspects with the outer planets, reactions occur such as the one at 11:00 am EST a few minutes ago... See how Vertex is trine Pluto and the reaction in price...? It may be a quirk of the Astrolog program that I don't understand and may make no sense astrologically but the effect is there and I see it over and over again as Vertex makes aspects with the outer planets and also when it enters a new house or reaches its midpoint.... As any scientist knows, correlation and causation sometimes have nothing to do with one another....

Sergey has "In Mundo" in TS that considers how the Sun travels relative to the Earth on a 24 hr period that is useful for Intraday research. More information here...http://www.timingsolution.com/TS/Mini/25/index.htm

This is all fascinating stuff to me. I hope you are willing to roll up your sleeves and contribute to the thread! We could use more input.....

Thanks a lot Jnevins for the comprehensive feedback. It's invaluable information. I may need to get astrology 101 like material to understand the solar planets and astrology. What was your best tutorial?

There is also interesting analysts like the time and cycle Raj. Just read his blog and he expected the main high lows of spx 2016. It's a science indeed.
It makes sense to have intra-day as the historical data set is larger than the daily ! I believe that the TS can load M1 long history.
Regarding having an astro tool to inform the cycles and match on MT4 , it's good recommendation but we need to know the cycles like a template. You can check this one, Euro makes a high or low reversal whenever it crosses the 180 degrees. I don't know what this means from astro point yet as I need to learn from a simple tutorial but I expect it's an aspect angle between the earth and moon.however I saw a video that someone from a text field just matched the dates with daily chart and it works. The video as back in 2012 but I will do it as an exercise for the years from 2013 and you can double check.

The question is if this relation exist and we know it for Euro, what are the other relations that should have been already well known from research.
for example, I expect from the TS or other method, cyclic traders know the GBPUSD makes reversal at x event from the y planet or at aspect relation or angle.
what is also for SPX, what is for EURGBP what is for USDX. All of this should already be there.
if we know these templates or astro or fixed cycles correlation, we can simply trade it by following the inflection point on any Astro tool like Astrology.

Hi Sixer.... One of the members of the TS group posted this insight about the Schaff Trend Cycle indicator in 2009:

". Peter Schaff Trend Cycle (STC) is a popular indicator commonly used to identify or confirm price direction and market turning points. It was created by Doug Schaff and is based on the assumption that currency trends accelerate and decelerate in a cyclical pattern that can reflect the dominant price cycle of any currency in any timeframe. . Schaff created the STC after trying to resolve the discrepancies that he observed between two widely used methods of determining trend: Moving Average Convergence and Divergence (MACD), the movement of two moving averages away from and towards each other. Price Cycles, the direction of the dominant price cycle as shown by various Smoothed Stochastics. The STC is created by running a MACD Line (the difference between two exponential moving averages) through a Double Smoothed Stochastic algorithm. The resulting oscillator combines the benefits of trend and momentum indicators. In trending markets it moves between 0 and 100, rising when an uptrend is accelerating and falling when a downtrend is accelerating. In sideways markets the STC is used as a range-trading indicator and can be interpreted similarly to standard oscillators. That is, the STC can signal oversold conditions when it turns up from below the 25-Line, and overbought conditions when it turns down from above the 75-Line. Why is the STC important? The STC has several benefits compared to its component indicators. It produces less whipsaw and fewer false signals than the MACD or Price Cycle oscillators. By combining the two, Schaff created an indicator that is more accurate and more adaptive than either original indicator is by itself. The STC usually turns up or down earlier than the MACD crossover, highlighting prospective trend changes sooner. In sideways markets, the STC generally travels in a clear path from under 25 to over 75, making it easier to interpret than the MACD which has no maximum or minimum values. The STC is an improvement compared to Cycle Oscillators which can give out wrong signals when the dominant cycle changes in length."

Gann letter 1952 to one of his students

If any one have any info about it..
Is "Master mechanical time and trend calculator" real?

mosalem2003,
i hope that you will receive the TS software shortly and start a new ff-thread in which you show predictions (yearly outlooks) for the indices (Dow/S&P), Gold and EURUSD with daily data as shon in the annex. Perhaps you can provide some work from the yahoo group too.

Sixer

Moly_Cam5,
for more Gann stuff, check the following link:
http://www.gann.su/book_eng_en.html (totally 3 pages)

jnevins,

enclosed you will find the STD description/explanation from Doug Schaff published 2008.

Sixer

Thx. for gold chart first,, hope to get my demo TS also
Iam already reading some books..
and im asking about the calc. is it really available

Click at "Software" at http://www.timingsolution.com/ to get an idea which possiblities the software offers. The added gif is an example.

Sixer

Thanks a lot Sixer. Would you kindly state the methodical steps you have used to generate the 2017 forecast?

Yes.... Gann used to spend a lot of time plotting price on graph paper in order to square price and time then make angular measurements and draw on the graph paper. This all took quite a bit of time. His Master Calculator was nothing more than a piece of acetate with Gann angles marked on it that he would overlay on his price chart. Another technique was his Square of Nine .... TS has many Gann tools built into it... here is the Sq of 9 description: http://www.timingsolution.com/TS/Study/SQ9/

This reflection by Sergey is well worth reading. Success in trading does not come from "magic" software that provides automatic profits... in fact he views all of the powerful tools to add up to no more than 10% above chaos. 80% is psychology and how one meets the market from a very personal point of view. Successful traders also embrace risk and know how to deal with it.... http://www.timingsolution.com/TS/Art...haos/index.htm

Another example of free software, Astrolog, helping time a 1 min chart.... As Vertex enters a new house or hits its mid-point, and especially when a major aspect is made with an outer planet, reversals can and do seem to occur.... Here is Vertex at the midpoint of Scorpio and 60 degrees from Pluto at 16:24 nearing the market close for the week... so that may not go anywhere.... the previous turn was a good one with Vertex trine Neptune at 15:54

HAPPY NEW YEAR

to all my friends here . Special thanks and greetings to Jerry for all his contribution.

Took off like a rocket... thanks Vertex.... easy scalp.

Thanks F.G.... Happy New Year! May we work together in support of one another in the new year. Happy New Year to all who contribute or just visit...

Happy New Year.. for everyone who is helpful for anyone
Hope best for all traders here

Is there any simple document that explains Zodic system with visual presentation. I got very good idea from the Larry P book but I believe there should be more recent and modern document to present it with good graphics?