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  • #7,481
  • Dec 27, 2016 9:17am Dec 27, 2016 9:17am
I´m still working on my template in the 30 min time frame - but i installed the MT5 version. So, i can`t provide you the indicators for MT4.

Extrapolator indicator: I actually use the "Extrapolation Method".
Start the "extrapolation" from the last bar, so change "Last Bar" from "30" to "0".

Sixer
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  • #7,482
  • Dec 27, 2016 3:03pm Dec 27, 2016 3:03pm
27 Dec. 2016

Part of daily events [bysy in the morning...]
Sun trine M. Node - 13:40
Moon conj. Sat. -16:12
Moon sq. K -16:24

Mars opp. M. Node -17:06
Merc. 45* Venus - 23:10
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28 Dec. Wedn.

Moon 270* -10:12
Sun conj. Merc. -13:48
Merc. sext.Mars -18:07
Sat. sq. K -18:08
Moon conj. Merc. -23:47
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At ~ 1:00 am Thu. 29 Dec. = conjuction of 3 bodies : Sun + Moon + Merc. sext. Mars + Nept.~

Take care
  • #7,483
  • Dec 27, 2016 3:36pm Dec 27, 2016 3:36pm
Quoting Sixer
Im still working on my template in the 30 min time frame - but i installed the MT5 version. So, i can`t provide you the indicators for MT4. Extrapolator indicator: I actually use the "Extrapolation Method". Start the "extrapolation" from the last bar, so change "Last Bar" from "30" to "0". Sixer {image}
Yes, thanks I did that today and had fun taking several 1 pip scalps as a break from all this longer term forecasting.
  • #7,484
  • Dec 27, 2016 5:42pm Dec 27, 2016 5:42pm
Oh dear God,

For a second I was thinking this is a trolling post or something like that. To make fun of people, but I see you guys are really into this. :O 375 pages. Wooooow.

I am going to be a nice guy today and do you a solid here and tell you in short what is really moving the markets significantly for the big guys to take interest and support the direction.

1, The universal principles of Supply and Demand
2, Fundamentals in it self. Basically News and economic events
3, Value (Calculated intrinsic value of a market or a currency)
4, So called fundamental drivers, underlying markets that are influencing the basic value of the currency or market
5, Volume
6, And a little of basic Technical analysis (market profile, liquidity levels etc.)

It is nearly impossible to do this part time. For people who want to do this for living expect about 3-6 moths of HARD training. After that you will get the "click" moment. You will be able to read the market like you are driving a car, subconsciously, with every day results BUT it still involves a lot of daily preparation. A LOT of hard work.
Well, when you decide to learn how the markets really work PM me.

Till then, good luck and may your lucky stars shine on you.
Rgds, JJ
  • #7,485
  • Dec 27, 2016 10:26pm Dec 27, 2016 10:26pm
Quoting jjdtrade
Oh dear God, For a second I was thinking this is a trolling post or something like that. To make fun of people, but I see you guys are really into this. :O 375 pages. Wooooow. I am going to be a nice guy today and do you a solid here and tell you in short what is really moving the markets significantly for the big guys to take interest and support the direction. 1, The universal principles of Supply and Demand 2, Fundamentals in it self. Basically News and economic events 3, Value (Calculated intrinsic value of a market or a currency) 4, So called...
jjdtrade....

This forum is about the study of cycles as one means of approaching the markets. We are interested in evidence based predictive cycles.... that they happen to correlate to the many possibilities that a study of planetary aspects might present is secondary to the fact of the cycles themselves. I noticed that you have subscribed to this group. We welcome any trader with insight that is worthwhile to add to the discussion. We could use more members who are sincere in their efforts to contribute insight. Comments like Oh dear God though are not welcomed.

We do work hard with statistical software rather than rely on lucky stars and leprechauns.
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  • #7,486
  • Dec 28, 2016 1:36am Dec 28, 2016 1:36am
Quoting jjdtrade
Oh dear God, For a second I was thinking this is a trolling post or something like that. To make fun of people, but I see you guys are really into this. :O 375 pages. Wooooow. I am going to be a nice guy today and do you a solid here and tell you in short what is really moving the markets significantly for the big guys to take interest and support the direction. 1, The universal principles of Supply and Demand 2, Fundamentals in it self. Basically News and economic events 3, Value (Calculated intrinsic value of a market or a currency) 4, So called...
Although Jerry gave you a civilized answer , may I add that your post

MADE MY DAY . . .
  • #7,487
  • Dec 28, 2016 1:50am Dec 28, 2016 1:50am
I continue with events of 29 Dec. 2016... Thu.

Sun conj. Moon [NM] -1:53
Huranus Direct - 4:29
Merc. trine M Node - 9:31
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30 Dec. Fri.
Sun 72* K -3:04
Merc. opp. PL. HELIO - 4:19
Sun sext. Nept. -18:26
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31 Dec. Sunday
Jup. 150* K - 6:01
Merc. 72* Jup. - 21:29
  • #7,488
  • Dec 28, 2016 3:21am Dec 28, 2016 3:21am
jnevins,

the "orange" line in your weekly outlook works fine for Swing trades until now.
Pls. show this for next week also. Is there any postive experience with this type of prediction ?

Sixer
  • #7,489
  • Dec 28, 2016 10:38am Dec 28, 2016 10:38am
Quoting Sixer
jnevins, the "orange" line in your weekly outlook works fine for Swing trades until now. Pls. show this for next week also. Is there any postive experience with this type of prediction ? Sixer
Hi Sixer,

Here is an overlay of the original prediction along with the actual price as it is unfolding in real time from my MT4 chart. Venus helio has a strong correlation to the Euro... I had forgotten that insight with recent charts... The orange line is Venus Helio. In order to give more detail on an intra week level, I used the 3rd harmonic and reduced the orb smoothing Sergey built into TS ...

Each week, I try to refine what I am doing in TS a little more... As failures occur, I adjust course or look for a reason. As an ongoing experiment with "future" events, I am in uncharted waters. Putting the "predictions" out there raises the bar and helps focus my attention.

What I find so fascinating is that the values for Venus Helio were taken from calculations performed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab. The "Swiss Ephemeris" is the data set Sergey uses in TS.... Want to know what the Euro will do at any point in the future (or the past for that matter) as Venus sees it?

"Developers can license the Ephemeris library. Ephemeris users find more than 8000 years of read-made printable files of ephemerides, containing tens of thousands print pages in PDF quality.
The Swiss Ephemeris offers these advantages:

  1. The Swiss Ephemeris is based upon the planetary and lunar ephemeris DE431 developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. It covers the time range 13201 BC to AD 17191. T"

http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swephinfo_e.htm

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  • #7,490
  • Dec 28, 2016 11:50am Dec 28, 2016 11:50am
Here is an all in one chart showing the overall contour for the week with the broad green sine wave, and a more detailed look with the same Venus helio 3rd harmonic, but the smoothing reduced to 5% (blue line and same curve as the orange line posted just above) and a very short term timing cycle with the thin red line, found by running the Q spectrum with a cycle range of 2 - 25 bars and picking the 4 highest peaks at 7,8, 10 and 11 bars, averaged together.

Step 1 shows just the smoothed Venus projection, Step 2 adds in more detail....
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  • #7,491
  • Dec 28, 2016 11:52am Dec 28, 2016 11:52am
Sixer here is the same projection for next week, January 2 - 6, 2017
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  • #7,492
  • Dec 28, 2016 12:29pm Dec 28, 2016 12:29pm
Thanks for the explanations and the outlook for next week.
The most important line for me - for my style of trading - is the blue line in your last two gifs.
All the others are too much "noise" for me.

I try to detect the overbought/oversold situation by using the two indicators shown plus the extrapolator.

Sixer
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  • #7,493
  • Dec 28, 2016 1:56pm Dec 28, 2016 1:56pm
Fractal nature of time and price.... click on image to animate it....

https://media.giphy.com/media/msRwGxTTTv54s/giphy.gif
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  • #7,494
  • Dec 28, 2016 2:11pm Dec 28, 2016 2:11pm
Thanks for the animation.

The extraplator needs some more tests which method is more accurate or the EURUSD:
Method 1: Fourier's extrapolation; the frequencies are calculated using the Quinn-Fernandes Algorithm
Method 2: Autocorrelation Method
Method 3: Weighted Burg Method
Method 4: Burg Method with Helme-Nikias weighting function
Method 5: Itakura-Saito (geometric) method
Method 6: Modified covariance method

If anybody can provide some more background, i would be happy.

Sixer
  • #7,495
  • Dec 28, 2016 2:38pm Dec 28, 2016 2:38pm
If someone is testing, pls. add the "fourier extrapolation" indicator also. Don`t forget to add the dll too.

Sixer
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  • #7,496
  • Dec 28, 2016 5:45pm Dec 28, 2016 5:45pm
Quoting Sixer
Thanks for the explanations and the outlook for next week. The most important line for me - for my style of trading - is the blue line in your last two gifs. All the others are too much "noise" for me. I try to detect the overbought/oversold situation by using the two indicators shown plus the extrapolator. Sixer {image}
Agreed... sometimes a simpler chart with longer swings is easier to work with.... Here is an instance where the detailed trigger of the Q spectrum got me in (demo) at 17:03 for a long and a change of trend on the 1 min chart.... I placed several scalps on the way up for some afternoon fun.
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  • #7,497
  • Dec 28, 2016 8:24pm Dec 28, 2016 8:24pm
Quoting Sixer
If someone is testing, pls. add the "fourier extrapolation" indicator also. Don`t forget to add the dll too. Sixer {image} {file} {file}
Mladen the author of the indicator had this to say:

mladen:
Upgraded Fourier extrapolation of stochastic : fourier_extrapolation_-_of_stochastic_2.mq4 As I explained here : https://www.forex-tsd.com/forum/excl...comment_877541 extrapolation of averages works OK

"Just to clarify : Fourier transform and Fourier extrapolation are recalculating (as some call it repainting). Do not use them for granted and God forbid, for signals"

In looking for the Fourier extrapolation.dll with a Google search, I came across this gem,

J. M. Hurst, "Cyclic Analysis: A Dynamic Approach to Technical Analysis" : the book

"The advent of accurate and continuous equity price histories made possible the study of equity price movement as a function of time, independent of all other variables.
Early studies of such data produced the conclusion that equity prices vary in a random, hence unpredictable, way.
This conclusion has been replaced in the last decade as evidence mounts that equity price variation is ordered and quasi-predictable.
The relationship between past and future prices is found to be complex and nonlinear. Current simplified models represent price movement as consisting of a linear combination of wave functions with specific and consistent interrelationships. This viewpoint has led to the development of the Wave Theory of Price Action.
From this Wave Theory, a body of practical application methods called Cyclic Analysis has been evolved which permits a fully integrated and wholly technical approach to the problem of trading and investing successfully in the stock and commodity markets.
This approach features the following unique capabilities: prediction of price-reversal timing, prediction of the price at an anticipated reversal, estimation of the extent of the price move expected to follow a reversal, and evaluation of a transaction before entry in terms of risk and profit potential.
Cyclic Analysis methodology has been field tested since 1971, and computerized analysis aids are available."

Sixer, can you post the .dll?
  • #7,498
  • Dec 28, 2016 9:58pm Dec 28, 2016 9:58pm
Yes, both (extrapolator and and fourier extrapolation) indicators are recalculating. I consider this as a big advantage compared to other indicators.

The dll for the fourier is in the zip file of post 7495.

Here is another book (published 2015) related to this thread:
http://avxhome.se/ebooks/1118369394.html

Sixer
  • #7,499
  • Dec 29, 2016 11:54am Dec 29, 2016 11:54am
Hi Jerry,

I'm Thierry responding to your invitation posted on the TS forum.
Indeed, Jerry, I find your research extremely interesting and you opened my eyes in the use of this fantastic TS application, especially how to tune the Astronomy module.
However, I cannot obtain any usable curve with Q Spectrum. Did you find a way to produce good results with it?

Playing with the Horizontal ephemeris tool for the EURUSD, I get good results for the GC conjunct As.

Thierry
  • #7,500
  • Edited 9:34pm Dec 29, 2016 9:16pm | Edited 9:34pm
Quoting Sixer
Yes, both (extrapolator and and fourier extrapolation) indicators are recalculating. I consider this as a big advantage compared to other indicators. The dll for the fourier is in the zip file of post 7495. Here is another book (published 2015) related to this thread: http://avxhome.se/ebooks/1118369394.html Sixer

Don't see the .dll in the .zip file... just the .ex4...

...Pretty stunning move up in 2 minutes on thin volume in the New Zealand and Australian morning... Venus kept us ahead of that curve
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