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  • #28,161
  • Dec 22, 2016 1:43pm Dec 22, 2016 1:43pm
Quoting odines
{quote} You're talking about trigger numbers right? Took a print screen to make things easier.. did I get it right? Btw im taking a look at TG videos.. Gavin made one about trigger numbers for those who wanna see, starts on 15:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcbu...ature=youtu.be {image}
Correct. I apply a fib with 0,50 and 100 levels as it makes it easy. I consider 50% as the trend hinge. Shorts below, longs above (if you get the right set-up). As far as Gavin's triggers I never really got my head wrapped around how he picks them. Might be the close level, not too sure.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #28,162
  • Dec 22, 2016 2:07pm Dec 22, 2016 2:07pm
Quoting pres78
{quote} Correct. I apply a fib with 0,50 and 100 levels as it makes it easy. I consider 50% as the trend hinge. Shorts below, longs above (if you get the right set-up). As far as Gavin's triggers I never really got my head wrapped around how he picks them. Might be the close level, not too sure.
In the video that i've posted Gavin's triggers are above and below the UHV bar, but I think i have listened him talk about triggers at close too in another videos, not sure.... what time frame do you use to pick those UHV bars usually?
  • #28,163
  • Dec 22, 2016 2:24pm Dec 22, 2016 2:24pm
Quoting odines
{quote} In the video that i've posted Gavin's triggers are above and below the UHV bar, but I think i have listened him talk about triggers at close too in another videos, not sure.... what time frame do you use to pick those UHV bars usually?
Usually I trade intraday using 1 hr zones with entries on hourly down to 1min (depending on how much time I have to trade). However I also trade swing trading using this same method on 4hr and higher charts.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #28,164
  • Dec 23, 2016 6:37am Dec 23, 2016 6:37am
Quoting odines
{quote} You're talking about trigger numbers right? Took a print screen to make things easier.. did I get it right? Btw im taking a look at TG videos.. Gavin made one about trigger numbers for those who wanna see, starts on 15:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcbu...ature=youtu.be {image}
BTW :
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  • #28,165
  • Dec 23, 2016 7:18am Dec 23, 2016 7:18am
AUDJPY was a lovely set-up today for a short (if I were trading). Yellow zone = yesterday zone, white zone = LO (today's zone at the time). We reject from the L of yesterday zone, break the L of today zone and return to 50% on ND. Lovely.

EURAUD had a similar set-up for a long today also...
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  • #28,166
  • Dec 23, 2016 7:36am Dec 23, 2016 7:36am
Quoting pres78
AUDJPY was a lovely set-up today for a short (if I were trading). Yellow zone = yesterday zone, white zone = LO (today's zone at the time). We reject from the L of yesterday zone, break the L of today zone and return to 50% on ND. Lovely. EURAUD had a similar set-up for a long today also... {image}
Im in at EU (second order was accidentialy)
We break H1 zone, and also as i marked below - from L from yeasterday h1 zone.
Something scary take place atm, lets see
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  • #28,167
  • Dec 23, 2016 7:39am Dec 23, 2016 7:39am
Quoting pres78
AUDJPY was a lovely set-up today for a short (if I were trading). Yellow zone = yesterday zone, white zone = LO (today's zone at the time). We reject from the L of yesterday zone, break the L of today zone and return to 50% on ND. Lovely. EURAUD had a similar set-up for a long today also... {image}
Spread at entry bar not the smallest one for ND, no?
  • #28,168
  • Dec 23, 2016 7:44am Dec 23, 2016 7:44am
Quoting LuckyMind
{quote} Spread at entry bar not the smallest one for ND, no?
OK we can call it no buying pressure than. Regardless what you call the bar you see a lack of buying interest into zone where I'd be looking to sell. After seeing that no buying bar you can drop to lower TF also and find an entry if you wish. Actually if you flipped to 30 min chart after that hourly bar closed you would see back to back weak bars and could trade on the break of the L of the second 30 min bar (narrow range, low volume bar).
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #28,169
  • Dec 23, 2016 7:46am Dec 23, 2016 7:46am
Quoting LuckyMind
{quote} Im in at EU (second order was accidentialy) We break H1 zone, and also as i marked below - from L from yeasterday h1 zone. Something scary take place atm, lets see {image}
Looks like i have to BE, cuz of this false breakdown - hate them
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  • #28,170
  • Dec 23, 2016 7:52am Dec 23, 2016 7:52am
Jumped into usdjpy.
Mostly cuz eu and uj have strong negative correlation and cuz of chart:
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  • #28,171
  • Dec 23, 2016 8:00am Dec 23, 2016 8:00am
Both EU closed at support lvl
I will follow UJ trade and thats is all for today
  • #28,172
  • Dec 23, 2016 12:07pm Dec 23, 2016 12:07pm
Quoting pres78
AUDJPY was a lovely set-up today for a short (if I were trading). Yellow zone = yesterday zone, white zone = LO (today's zone at the time). We reject from the L of yesterday zone, break the L of today zone and return to 50% on ND. Lovely. EURAUD had a similar set-up for a long today also... {image}
Hi! Yellow zone = today's zone ?

is it not correct ?
  • #28,173
  • Dec 23, 2016 12:09pm Dec 23, 2016 12:09pm
Quoting Trappist
{quote} Hi! Yellow zone = today's zone ? is it not correct ?
Oops. Yes had those backwards.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #28,174
  • Dec 25, 2016 6:53am Dec 25, 2016 6:53am
I closed UJ at 1:0.5 cuz of some SOW (see chart).

Start to understand trigger numbers/ zones a bit, but got exciting question:
When we see H1 bar with vol bigger, than at LO H1 bar what should we do?
Draw only new zone and delete LO, retain LO or draw both?

For me is logical to redraw and delete lower vol H1 zone, but looking at attached chart i think it's not best decision. Otherwise if i will draw both zones + yesterdays zone - it will be too many lines at chart, that can confuse.

I would be grateful for the help
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  • #28,175
  • Dec 25, 2016 12:19pm Dec 25, 2016 12:19pm
any one there who tried VSA on Penny Stock ?
  • #28,176
  • Dec 27, 2016 10:35am Dec 27, 2016 10:35am
Quoting LuckyMind
I closed UJ at 1:0.5 cuz of some SOW (see chart). Start to understand trigger numbers/ zones a bit, but got exciting question: When we see H1 bar with vol bigger, than at LO H1 bar what should we do? Draw only new zone and delete LO, retain LO or draw both? For me is logical to redraw and delete lower vol H1 zone, but looking at attached chart i think it's not best decision. Otherwise if i will draw both zones + yesterdays zone - it will be too many lines at chart, that can confuse. I would be grateful for the help {image}...
Some use highest volume bar to be the trigger, others prefer to use LO H1 (because its the Initial Balance I think - Market Profile concept) and others use both.. so I think it's up to you what to choose

Gavin trades using a "pure vsa" I would say, so he talks about the last higher volume bar to be the trigger number on his videos. Personally I dont remember him talking about first hour open as a trigger

Keep in mind in not a "guru" or something, I still in the learning curve
  • #28,177
  • Dec 28, 2016 1:26am Dec 28, 2016 1:26am
Quoting odines
{quote} Some use highest volume bar to be the trigger, others prefer to use LO H1 (because its the Initial Balance I think - Market Profile concept) and others use both.. so I think it's up to you what to choose Gavin trades using a "pure vsa" I would say, so he talks about the last higher volume bar to be the trigger number on his videos. Personally I dont remember him talking about first hour open as a trigger Keep in mind in not a "guru" or something, I still in the learning curve
Thank you for your opinion!

I like the idea of using just last higher volume bar, but sometimes its a lot of high volume bars and hard to decide how to draw lines. Look examplr at attach
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  • #28,178
  • Edited 5:31am Dec 28, 2016 4:20am | Edited 5:31am


Edit: Closed 1:3
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  • #28,179
  • Dec 28, 2016 10:58am Dec 28, 2016 10:58am
Quoting LuckyMind
{quote} Thank you for your opinion! I like the idea of using just last higher volume bar, but sometimes its a lot of high volume bars and hard to decide how to draw lines. Look examplr at attach {image}
thats true, IMO you should focus on the bars zones that are closer to the current price.. if price moves from there u should take a look at next zone, and so on
  • #28,180
  • Dec 28, 2016 11:19am Dec 28, 2016 11:19am
looks like some buyers jumped in but not enough to stop down move IMO, theres still supply.. looking for a down move below support and a up move on lack of demand for a possible short setup
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