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  • #4,741
  • Dec 8, 2016 4:38am Dec 8, 2016 4:38am
Quoting TXAggies12
Hey thanks for all the input C-12!! I appreciate it. The only part of this I'm still trying to get my head around is the concept of where the zone is "on the larger time fame supply/demand curve," and balancing that out with trading in the direction of the trend. Could you give me your take on it? I like trading the 5-min chart -- so in that case, I get the sense that if the 30-min is trending down, I should define S/D zones on the 30-min chart, then pick 5-min supply zones that are close to the 30-min supply zones? Here is an example of a trade...
Here's the H1 view. Always worth flicking up through the timeframes.
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  • #4,742
  • Dec 8, 2016 4:41am Dec 8, 2016 4:41am
Did a bit of heavy top picking against the trend and bought the engulf. Lets see if we can break out north on EU
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  • #4,743
  • Dec 8, 2016 4:48am Dec 8, 2016 4:48am
I guess you could say that was worked out well.
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  • #4,744
  • Dec 8, 2016 10:48am Dec 8, 2016 10:48am
Quoting C-12
I guess you could say that was worked out well. {image}
c12 you offering mentoring or teaching yet . is it possible I could take some trades of what I know and then email them to you and get feedback ? don't mind paying
  • #4,745
  • Dec 8, 2016 12:09pm Dec 8, 2016 12:09pm
Quoting nathzcinco
{quote} c12 you offering mentoring or teaching yet . is it possible I could take some trades of what I know and then email them to you and get feedback ? don't mind paying
Or you post them here
  • #4,746
  • Dec 8, 2016 12:16pm Dec 8, 2016 12:16pm
Quoting MCFly
{quote} Or you post them here
yeah but it wont be feedback that's detailed and how I could improve ect
  • #4,747
  • Dec 8, 2016 1:21pm Dec 8, 2016 1:21pm
Excellent C-12.

My EUR/GBP trade worked out perfectly as well. But I can definitely see where looking at the 1-hour chart you posted the zone wasn't as fresh as could be. I am glad it worked out in this instance though. 91 pip profit in about 45 minutes - pretty good for me!
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  • #4,748
  • Dec 9, 2016 2:06am Dec 9, 2016 2:06am
Quoting nathzcinco
{quote} yeah but it wont be feedback that's detailed and how I could improve ect
Dude, you haven't even seen an account statement or any number of trades calls up front... why would you ever part with your money? No offense to C12 but all these trades are after the fact. There is no PROOF that any of this works. To be fair I wouldn't take a lot of these zones, they seem directionless and messy price action. Just putting my cards on the table, I hope I can be proven wrong and apologise if I have offended C12 but I think some clarity needs to be brought into these forums otherwise it has people on a wild goose chase.
  • #4,749
  • Dec 9, 2016 4:35am Dec 9, 2016 4:35am
Quoting NaughtyPip
{quote} Dude, you haven't even seen an account statement or any number of trades calls up front... why would you ever part with your money? No offense to C12 but all these trades are after the fact. There is no PROOF that any of this works. To be fair I wouldn't take a lot of these zones, they seem directionless and messy price action. Just putting my cards on the table, I hope I can be proven wrong and apologise if I have offended C12 but I think some clarity needs to be brought into these forums otherwise it has people on a wild goose chase. ...
No offense to you either but if you had spent as much time following this thread as I have you wouldn't be making your comments.
This thread doesn't even belong in "commercial".
  • #4,750
  • Edited 4:53am Dec 9, 2016 4:39am | Edited 4:53am
Quoting NaughtyPip
{quote} Dude, you haven't even seen an account statement or any number of trades calls up front... why would you ever part with your money? No offense to C12 but all these trades are after the fact. There is no PROOF that any of this works. To be fair I wouldn't take a lot of these zones, they seem directionless and messy price action. Just putting my cards on the table, I hope I can be proven wrong and apologise if I have offended C12 but I think some clarity needs to be brought into these forums otherwise it has people on a wild goose chase. ...
People need to take a look at the trading methods on here, test them out and see what works for them. If it doesn't, then dump it... What clarity is needed ?

It seems people expect to be given a holy grail on a silver platter... I can guarantee anyone with that expectation will fail 100%. People have to take total responsibility for their own work and use these forums for ideas only.

I've learned stuff from people like Ken, Red, Julexo from the charts they post. Before that, I studied PA from James16 and S&D from Sam Seiden... I honestly don't care if any of those guys are broke or are raking in billions. It's all about the ideas they bring to the table and the hours of chart time I'm willing to put in myself.

As for coaching people, I can't teach anyone discipline let alone myself. It has to be earned over many years through sweat and sacrifice. I'm not here to sell anything.
  • #4,751
  • Dec 9, 2016 5:01am Dec 9, 2016 5:01am
The other thing to mention is that I'm not a "zones" trader. I trade mostly PA (engulfing patterns) and use zones to try and give me some ideas on higher TF direction and targets.

I don't call zones in advance since I very rarely trade them but there are people who are good at that style.
  • #4,752
  • Dec 9, 2016 6:40pm Dec 9, 2016 6:40pm
Hi, C-12!
just want to know if you have already been trading as a full-time?
I see on some charts your position size is 1.00 standard lot, is it real or demo?

best luck!
yours,
shunfeng
The candle pattern is the signal, the inevitability behind it is the key.
  • #4,753
  • Dec 12, 2016 2:37pm Dec 12, 2016 2:37pm
Hi C-12,
Would like to clarify how you identify the engulfing ? since sometimes I see the candle you mark not engulfed the previous bar.
it is based on swing low or high and you only see 3 candle which the middle of the candle is the lowest/highest.
sorry for asking the basic thing, as I would like to know how to determine the level in HTF. Hope to get your reply.

Quoting C-12
{quote} Here's the H1 view. Always worth flicking up through the timeframes. {image}
  • #4,754
  • Edited 11:18am Dec 14, 2016 11:07am | Edited 11:18am
Quoting pipfirst
Hi C-12, Would like to clarify how you identify the engulfing ? since sometimes I see the candle you mark not engulfed the previous bar. it is based on swing low or high and you only see 3 candle which the middle of the candle is the lowest/highest. sorry for asking the basic thing, as I would like to know how to determine the level in HTF. Hope to get your reply. {quote}
Just general PA really. Something like this....? Engulfing out of the zone.

This was a good example as this zone was clean on H4 / H1 and M30 but the PA was the giveaway.
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  • #4,755
  • Dec 14, 2016 5:14pm Dec 14, 2016 5:14pm
[quote=C-12;9348556]{quote} Just general PA really. Something like this....? Engulfing out of the zone. This was a good example as this zone was clean on H4 / H1 and M30 but the PA was the giveaway. {image}[/qu

hi c12 .. is it EA are u using .. what name it is .... really amazing trades you are showing ...
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #4,756
  • Edited 5:56pm Dec 14, 2016 5:43pm | Edited 5:56pm
[quote=ramzam;9349839]
Quoting C-12
{quote} Just general PA really. Something like this....? Engulfing out of the zone. This was a good example as this zone was clean on H4 / H1 and M30 but the PA was the giveaway. {image}[/qu hi c12 .. is it EA are u using .. what name it is .... really amazing trades you are showing ...
[quote=ramzam;9349839]
hi c12 .. is it EA are u using .. what name it is .... really amazing trades you are showing ...


http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...79#post9134479
  • #4,757
  • Dec 15, 2016 7:42am Dec 15, 2016 7:42am
Quoting C-12
{quote} Just general PA really. Something like this....? Engulfing out of the zone. This was a good example as this zone was clean on H4 / H1 and M30 but the PA was the giveaway. {image}
Hi C,
Why you are not buy for GU, as seen in the chart there is zone for buy ?
  • #4,758
  • Dec 15, 2016 9:42am Dec 15, 2016 9:42am
Quoting pipfirst
{quote} Hi C, Why you are not buy for GU, as seen in the chart there is zone for buy ?
No defo not a buy zone this. I was more interested in selling this and got most of it with a few premature exits along the way.
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  • #4,759
  • Dec 15, 2016 9:45am Dec 15, 2016 9:45am
Don't forget to check the Daily/ H4 as that area got decisively taken out with PA. Looks quite clear on this chart.
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  • #4,760
  • Edited 10:00am Dec 15, 2016 9:46am | Edited 10:00am
[quote=ramzam;9349839]
Quoting C-12
{quote} Just general PA really. Something like this....? Engulfing out of the zone. This was a good example as this zone was clean on H4 / H1 and M30 but the PA was the giveaway. {image}[/qu hi c12 .. is it EA are u using .. what name it is .... really amazing trades you are showing ...
No EA, just freestyle entries using PA, zones, multiple time frames, USDX and about 5 years of heavy screen time.

It's not possible to code this unfortunately, although I wish I could automate discipline!
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