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  • #27,941
  • Nov 29, 2016 1:09am Nov 29, 2016 1:09am
Quoting Vcv13
{quote} that was one very aggressive trade pres, now if you could tell me why the high volume & spread of the bar right before the ND didn't bother you? thanks! {image}
Hello, I'm not even close to pro, but if you wouldn't mind i will try to answer too, to check with right answer later)

There are paragraph at MM about channels, and there were that if we are approaching trend line at low volume or at narrow spread - we will not break it. On the other hand we had high vol wide spread bar, which closed below LO zone, and the next bar only confirmed - its true break, we will not move up.

Surely, its backdating analysis.
  • #27,942
  • Nov 29, 2016 1:17am Nov 29, 2016 1:17am
Quoting LuckyMind
{quote} On the other hand we had high vol wide spread bar, which closed below LO zone, and the next bar only confirmed - its true break, we will not move up.

no the spread of that bar is not wide, that's what I want to know why it didn't bother pres, the trend was also not down, this was aggressive trading.
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  • #27,943
  • Nov 29, 2016 1:24am Nov 29, 2016 1:24am
there were also a couple of springs in the background.
The loss was not bad luck. It was bad Analysis - D.Einhorn
  • #27,944
  • Nov 29, 2016 1:31am Nov 29, 2016 1:31am
Quoting Vcv13
there were also a couple of springs in the background.
Springs? How to determine this pattern?

Its so many snow last month, so looks like i have problems with seasons, cuz i thought this autumn joke
  • #27,945
  • Nov 29, 2016 2:48am Nov 29, 2016 2:48am
Sadly, cant join to this upmove.
Looked for something at middle of HV H1 zone, but cant find VSA signal/pattern.
Did i miss something there?

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  • #27,946
  • Nov 29, 2016 3:13am Nov 29, 2016 3:13am
Quoting LuckyMind
Did i miss something there?
I personally don't think so, PA is really ugly across all majors. I highly doubt I will make a trade today.

NZDUSD looks weak with an hourly UT back into a previous high, but lower TFs are no good for entries.
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  • #27,947
  • Nov 29, 2016 3:29am Nov 29, 2016 3:29am
I try to learn this by myself and happy to find such a great thread.
Luckmind i have make some arrows on your picture how i see this. Hope it will help you. I am so new that i dont have names for the things i draw on it. Sorry.

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First Arrow i would go long, second arrow (second bull-candle) i would go short.
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  • #27,948
  • Nov 29, 2016 3:39am Nov 29, 2016 3:39am
You might find another buying opportunity back at that 50% but be careful at 7475-7480 range there is supply there.

Also look at daily I wouldn't want to be short with the last couple of days making higher highs and higher lows.

Honestly though I feel like I'm not reading the situation properly.
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  • #27,949
  • Nov 29, 2016 3:48am Nov 29, 2016 3:48am
Just catched two SL, well that I used microlot
But sadly, cuz i liked this trades, and though it will work:
First screen USDJPY h1
Second USDJPY m5

Since eurusd got strong correlation to usdjpy, i looked to shorts at it

Third screen EurUsd m5
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  • #27,950
  • Nov 29, 2016 3:54am Nov 29, 2016 3:54am
Quoting MichaelSch
I try to learn this by myself and happy to find such a great thread. Luckmind i have make some arrows on your picture how i see this. Hope it will help you. I am so new that i dont have names for the things i draw on it. Sorry. {image} First Arrow i would go long, second arrow (second bull-candle) i would go short.
Hello !

At second pointed place there are HV UT and next to him is ND, would be nice trade yeah.
I try to concetrate about zones, using Mr.Pres78 strategy, so searcing signals there now
  • #27,951
  • Nov 29, 2016 7:12am Nov 29, 2016 7:12am
Quoting Vcv13
{quote} that was one very aggressive trade pres, now if you could tell me why the high volume & spread of the bar right before the ND didn't bother you? thanks! {image}
Why? Because the bar made the lowest low of 3 touches of the same area on the 15min chart, closed near it's low, closed below the low of the LO zone and was followed immediately by a complete lack of demand. High volume down bar on relatively small spread doesn't automatically = strength. That amount of effort followed by a result of ND below the LO of the LO zone was all I needed to take the trade. I also don't consider this trade as aggressive as for me it set up wonderfully. The Friday zone was well below as a target and we had seen that high volume mark-up over night with the result of declining / sideways PA rather than continued higher prices. LO printed as an UT failing to hold higher prices etc...

All signs for me and how I trade was to watch for a short on GBPUSD.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #27,952
  • Nov 29, 2016 7:21am Nov 29, 2016 7:21am
Quoting Vcv13
{quote} no the spread of that bar is not wide, that's what I want to know why it didn't bother pres, the trend was also not down, this was aggressive trading.
Trend on what TF? LO put in a LH on the day so we had at least the starting's of the LL, LH structure. Also as noted before for my intraday trading I trade zone to zone and don't care about "trend" in the common sense. The zones are my trend structure. I will go long and short on the same day if the trades present regardless of the perceived trend.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #27,953
  • Nov 29, 2016 7:24am Nov 29, 2016 7:24am
Quoting Vcv13
there were also a couple of springs in the background.
When is a spring a spring SOS and when is a spring actually sellers filling and absorbing buy orders as a SOW? The result of all effort upwards yesterday leading up to my trade was followed by result of no continued higher prices and then ultimately that ND I traded.

Disclaimer - I don't trade Wyckoff or springs so I am asking how your guys differentiate.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #27,954
  • Nov 29, 2016 7:45am Nov 29, 2016 7:45am
And today GBPUSD traded up from today's zone to the L of yesterday's zone (which interestingly enough wasn't any of the London or NY PA but that Asia session bar) where some sellers / profit taking was found.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #27,955
  • Nov 29, 2016 8:31am Nov 29, 2016 8:31am
Quoting pres78
And today GBPUSD traded up from today's zone to the L of yesterday's zone (which interestingly enough wasn't any of the London or NY PA but that Asia session bar) where some sellers / profit taking was found.
Good evening!

Can I clarify, if I draw zones right?
There are to many, no? And I did not even draw Asian bar zone + looking your post i have to draw day before yesterday HV H1 zone also?
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  • #27,956
  • Nov 29, 2016 8:33am Nov 29, 2016 8:33am
really easy trades also today... EU / GU
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  • #27,957
  • Nov 29, 2016 8:58am Nov 29, 2016 8:58am
Quoting icantmilk
really easy trades also today... EU / GU {image} {image} {image}
super simple trade in real time lol ^_^...stupidly easy, thats how u make 40 pips

edit: h1 bars with UHV for tommorow zone, could be even for more days
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  • #27,958
  • Nov 29, 2016 9:22am Nov 29, 2016 9:22am
didnt take this one, too risky, just my opinion on situation...would like to see some good test
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  • #27,959
  • Nov 29, 2016 9:24am Nov 29, 2016 9:24am
Quoting LuckyMind
{quote} Good evening! Can I clarify, if I draw zones right? There are to many, no? And I did not even draw Asian bar zone + looking your post i have to draw day before yesterday HV H1 zone also? {image} {image}
When starting out keep it very simple.

Each day only needs one zone. The previous days zone (1 zone on whatever the highest 1hr volume bar was) used as possible entry or as target. Today's zone (usually LO first and then changed to NYO). I don't usually pay too much attention to Asia session as normally the volume isn't very high. For the current day normally the first zone for the day is at LO.
Today's zone = Tomorrow's opportunity!
  • #27,960
  • Nov 29, 2016 9:53am Nov 29, 2016 9:53am
Quoting icantmilk
didnt take this one, too risky, just my opinion on situation...would like to see some good test {image}
I said I want a test and I have got it *_*
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