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  • #161
  • Nov 27, 2016 6:06am Nov 27, 2016 6:06am
Quoting gugun555
GB is trash, challenge TE with a screen shoot and claim TKO. totally joke, i ve even wonder if he/she ever perform a real forex trade. GB not a trader, he/she a strategy collector but never use them lol. on the other side, this guy ahhamidz not a bullshitter about ton of pips he collected everyday. not like GB, he loaded the TE now, although using demo account at least he proved his words. 3 days collected around 4K pips, there are not many people like him, i must salute him.
Share a link please.I was interested how he managed o collect 700 pips a day- and and then I saw that he did over 100 transactions, 7 pips on average. Maybe it is some kind of basket trading.
  • #162
  • Nov 27, 2016 6:27am Nov 27, 2016 6:27am
Quoting Fred-IV
{quote} Share a link please.I was interested how he managed o collect 700 pips a day- and and then I saw that he did over 100 transactions, 7 pips on average. Maybe it is some kind of basket trading.
If you are interested in pips - lets say you trade 0.1 for 30 pips... just open 10x0.01 and you have 300 pips on that trade.
I wish I could pay my bills with pips, lol.
Please add more indicators, I still see the real price! Thanks!
  • #163
  • Nov 27, 2016 7:01am Nov 27, 2016 7:01am
Quoting Crackpot
{quote} If you are interested in pips - lets say you trade 0.1 for 30 pips... just open 10x0.01 and you have 300 pips on that trade. I wish I could pay my bills with pips, lol.

No, not at all, just curious how he managed to do it, as a strategy I consider this plain nonsense
  • #164
  • Nov 27, 2016 7:05am Nov 27, 2016 7:05am
check it out here, at least he gave proof not like GB. and yeah it is basket trading style, 753 trades in 3 days.

http://www.forexfactory.com/ahhamidz
making money is easy in forex, losing money is even easier...
  • #165
  • Nov 27, 2016 7:15am Nov 27, 2016 7:15am
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} You idea have not how close are you? Trade no SL can be very money make. Enter good is important. More important how exit. You very close. 10 pip TP stupid. 20 to 200-300 pips smart. Maybe it make you. Think more. Close are you?
do you want to try? special EA with no SL? demo ofc.
  • #166
  • Nov 27, 2016 7:30am Nov 27, 2016 7:30am
Quoting gugun555
check it out here, at least he gave proof not like GB. and yeah it is basket trading style, 753 trades in 3 days. http://www.forexfactory.com/ahhamidz
Thanks, 350 trades a day, I suspect this is some kind of software, no one sane will ... stay sane
  • #167
  • Nov 27, 2016 7:43am Nov 27, 2016 7:43am
Quoting gugun555
check it out here, at least he gave proof not like GB. and yeah it is basket trading style, 753 trades in 3 days. http://www.forexfactory.com/ahhamidz
How long will it last?

For GOOD and serious trading forum there should be min of 6 month before you can publish your trading.

But then - we would have 0 forums around.
Please add more indicators, I still see the real price! Thanks!
  • #168
  • Nov 27, 2016 8:46am Nov 27, 2016 8:46am
Quoting Crackpot
{quote} How long will it last? For GOOD and serious trading forum there should be min of 6 month before you can publish your trading. But then - we would have 0 forums around.
Good question and i dont know the answer. It is not possible to judge the trading with only 3 days old account, but let say if he consistent in the way he did he may survive quite long, returns 11% with 0% DD looks quite good for me... but i wont follow him, like Fred said, this kind of trading requires you to sit hourly in front of your computer not suitable for sane people, will drain your brain a lot in long term and risk for having alzheimer come early to your life lol.

many trades were closed in one minutes, there are restricion with some broker that trades need to stay minimum 2 minutes before you close it. So in real account you will having problem in withdrawing your fund.
making money is easy in forex, losing money is even easier...
  • #169
  • Nov 27, 2016 9:20am Nov 27, 2016 9:20am
Quoting gugun555
{quote}... not suitable for sane people, will drain your brain a lot in long term and risk for having alzheimer come early to your life lol. many trades were closed in one minutes, there are restricion with some broker that trades need to stay minimum 2 minutes before you close it. So in real account you will having problem in withdrawing your fund.
interesting suggestion that if one using the brain is insane and will risk Alzheimer...is that mean those not use the brain are/stay sane?

if your broker restrict 1 min or whatever length of trading, change; those are worst bucketshops.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #170
  • Edited 10:02am Nov 27, 2016 9:49am | Edited 10:02am
The big difference between demo and real account is:-

1) there will be slippage
2) scalping looks really great in demo but not in real, check my account and you will know, in the end, you will pay a lot of commission just for scalping, i have already paid $40 commission just for about 30 trades. Imagine the cost of transaction here if the account grows here.
3) any trades less than 5 pips will not be sustainable because you are already paying too much for spread, so all those basket trading EAs might look great in demo but once you operate them on real, the slippage will kill all these +1 to +5pips positive trades.
4) and just like crackpot stated, ahhamidz chose to hide his lots traded because he chose to deal in pips, which is a bit shady because you can really earn a lot of pips but not in terms of real account growth

No need to take my word for it. Use your own judgement and think for it for yourself.

But good job for ahhamidz. You have the guts to put up a trade explorer. Kudos to you even it's in demo.

Now, we are still waiting for the fucking scammer ghostbiker. Where are you?
  • #171
  • Nov 27, 2016 9:59am Nov 27, 2016 9:59am
Quoting Fred-IV
{quote} Thanks, 350 trades a day, I suspect this is some kind of software, no one sane will ... stay sane
of course it's an EA, there is no way manual trading can be like this. He had multiple trades open and close in 1min with basket pairs. There is no way this can be done manually.

See, once you put up a trade explorer, there is really no way to hide. And all those floating negative trades that ghostbiker is holding for few days in negatvie 100pips + with big swaps will be revealed. And thus, his original of 20 pip stoploss and 10 pips take profit is all exposed.

Yes, scamming people is harder now with trade explorer. Not like the old days like jacko, where you believe anything anyone writes on the internet with few professional cropped screenshots showing only the winning trades AFTER the fact. In the end, i think no one ever sees jacko live in person.
  • #172
  • Nov 27, 2016 10:10am Nov 27, 2016 10:10am
Quoting CrocodileRex
{quote} of course it's an EA, there is no way manual trading can be like this. He had multiple trades open and close in 1min with basket pairs. There is no way this can be done manually. See, once you put up a trade explorer, there is really no way to hide.
The main problem I see that live datafeed is different and robots good on demo are poor live.
Maybe the real problems are brokers, who can see trades by robots and just messing with signals?
I'll call a friend who is a ceo of local brokerage and I'll ask him tomorrow. If all will be good I can test this robot live,
I suspect Ahhamidz has it somewhere from here on FF.

Anyway looks that we have a honest guy At last! Kudos to him
  • #173
  • Nov 27, 2016 10:32am Nov 27, 2016 10:32am
Quoting CrocodileRex
The big difference between demo and real account is:- 1) there will be slippage 2) scalping looks really great in demo but not in real, check my account and you will know, in the end, you will pay a lot of commission just for scalping, i have already paid $40 commission just for about 30 trades. Imagine the cost of transaction here if the account grows here. 3) any trades less than 5 pips will not be sustainable because you are already paying too much for spread, so all those basket trading EAs might look great in demo but once you operate them...
just a few cents of mine...

scalping can be more sustainable than it looks when looking at closed results only...
take ahhamidz for the example, average trade return is approx 5 pips...BUT since he also closed approx 2000 pips losers, there comes average, and not result of only shooting for 4-5 pips each trade. ( if i would to make a guess, he use currency strength to open a basket, and close at a certain level of combined gain).
55% Win rate is rather sustainable, or realistic.
the trades in general all close with -0.1% to + 0.4%...
vs. your TE, where to be honest you strongly over risk your account where trades each result between -9% to +10%, way too much fluctuation and risk on a single trade. you can prove a point with 0.1 lots just as good, even with 0.01 lots...
after all, GB isnt proving anything...so just showing up for the fight is a win, since the demo queen never even intended to open a demo ( forbid someone see those running open loser trades).

while my experience is to have bit more slippage to the negative side, yet the whole picture is there is some positive slippage too, so it is not that huge factor if the broker in general decent...believe GP is a decent broker.
as for the spread in scalping, simple quick fix to stay with majors.

it is definitely commendable that ahhamidz actually went on and opened a TE, and not only posting screenshots.
and kudos to you too trying to show a point vs GB.






while my experience is to have bit more slippage to the negative side, yet the whole picture is there is some positive slippage too, so it is not that huge factor if the broker in general decent...believe GP is a decent broker.
as for the spread in scalping, simple quick fix to stay with majors.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #174
  • Nov 27, 2016 11:50am Nov 27, 2016 11:50am
Quoting CrocodileRex
The big difference between demo and real account is:- 1) there will be slippage 2) scalping looks really great in demo but not in real, check my account and you will know, in the end, you will pay a lot of commission just for scalping, i have already paid $40 commission just for about 30 trades. Imagine the cost of transaction here if the account grows here. 3) any trades less than 5 pips will not be sustainable because you are already paying too much for spread, so all those basket trading EAs might look great in demo but once you operate them...

Well, try a decent professional broker, the results will be more or less the same on Demo or Real.

I trade with a reputed UK broker, using my own automated trading. Trades replicated from Demo to multiple real accounts. Same results on demo and real. ( few milliseconds are lost in trade replication and that will be reflected in the price quoted for order replication. but no real difference in overall results.)
  • #175
  • Nov 27, 2016 12:05pm Nov 27, 2016 12:05pm
Quoting CrocodileRex
{quote} of course it's an EA, there is no way manual trading can be like this. He had multiple trades open and close in 1min with basket pairs. There is no way this can be done manually. See, once you put up a trade explorer, there is really no way to hide. And all those floating negative trades that ghostbiker is holding for few days in negatvie 100pips + with big swaps will be revealed. And thus, his original of 20 pip stoploss and 10 pips take profit is all exposed. Yes, scamming people is harder now with trade explorer. Not like the old days...
Trade explorer can be manipulated as well. Many tricks some are: changing the start date to hide loses, not updating account on loses, depositing money all the time to keep a float , changing accounts all the time after Ruining them claiming a hack or technicals glitch in the software ;using an account not their's , a team of scammers.
  • #176
  • Nov 27, 2016 12:14pm Nov 27, 2016 12:14pm
Quoting Pip-Miner
{quote} Trade explorer can be manipulated as well. Many tricks some are: ...
that is why I was asking for screens of "Trade tab" -- everybody with interest can control whats happening with trades, because when they are eating profits, you see it, when they are closed, you see it ... can be photoshoped, but when there was screenshot with opened trade at first shot, on second is not opened, you can check history screen how it was closed, if you dont see any, photoshoped ... easy ... when somebody will tell us how brilliant accurate is his/her trading without SL, can provide trade tab
  • #177
  • Nov 27, 2016 12:17pm Nov 27, 2016 12:17pm
Quoting miro1360
{quote} that is why I was asking for screens of "Trade tab" -- everybody with interest can control whats happening with trades, because when they are eating profits, you see it, when they are closed, you see it ... can be photoshoped, but when there was screenshot with opened trade at first shot, on second is not opened, you can check history screen how it was closed, if you dont see any, photoshoped ... easy ... when somebody will tell us how brilliant accurate is his/her trading without SL, can provide trade tab
the best way for real transparency is to provide an investor password
atheer1
  • #178
  • Nov 27, 2016 12:22pm Nov 27, 2016 12:22pm
Quoting atheer1
{quote} the best way for real transparency is to provide an investor password
Agreed , a live account and with 2 years trading - then I will consider the person ok. Photo shop screen shots is bread and butter for even entry level scammers. Then there is the problem bad trading practices like martingale. Trade explorer makes these strategies look very good as little loses, until the big one which gets hidden .
  • #179
  • Nov 27, 2016 12:23pm Nov 27, 2016 12:23pm
Quoting atheer1
{quote} the best way for real transparency is to provide an investor password
yes atheer1, this was asked somewhere in GB threads, and reply was: "I am not trade copy charity" or copyshop so neither hot nor cold ...
  • #180
  • Edited 12:49pm Nov 27, 2016 12:29pm | Edited 12:49pm
Quoting TradeGraph
{quote} Well, try a decent professional broker, the results will be more or less the same on Demo or Real. I trade with a reputed UK broker, using my own automated trading. Trades replicated from Demo to multiple real accounts. Same results on demo and real. ( few milliseconds are lost in trade replication and that will be reflected in the price quoted for order replication. but no real difference in overall results.)
Would you like to share the name of that broker?

Good to know that there are brokers with no diferences in datafeed.
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