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  • #56,561
  • Edited 3:23am Nov 26, 2016 3:00am | Edited 3:23am
Quoting fti
{quote} eeeer when i tames the wild beast. i am most high and tea............. You cannot understand..... hole in one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul2PI3RYbyA regards
I am sorry, but what do you mean with the above?

Ruben
  • #56,562
  • Edited 5:03am Nov 26, 2016 4:44am | Edited 5:03am
Quoting ruben7222
{quote} I am sorry, but what do you mean with the above? Ruben
i could be wrong, perhaps its this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response

also perhaps thats why fti calls it the dance and feel

also perhaps why fti says he feels market better with position inside

in the dance, theres the feel of it while dancing, the slow, and the fast, and the climax and the dead silence

mm, mindset and perception(perception of information streams, i.e. price action, news, price action reaction to news and the like) and the dance,the perception + dance = mo, the mo + mm = strategic response, and strategic response + mindset = success, they all linked, the chains that link them are the weakest link i guess, which is the human factor in it.
  • #56,563
  • Edited 6:11am Nov 26, 2016 5:51am | Edited 6:11am
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} i could be wrong, perhaps its this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response also perhaps thats why fti calls it the dance and feel also perhaps why fti says he feels market better with position inside in the dance, theres the feel of it while dancing, the slow, and the fast, and the climax and the dead silence mm, mindset and perception(perception of information streams, i.e. price action, news, price action reaction to news and the like) and the dance,the perception + dance = mo, the mo + mm = strategic...
Yes i think you are correct, the fight or flight, a certain emotion, the information stream, iT is all About perception. (Different people same situation different perceptions)

But what creates the perception/emotion (by a situation) That we have?
and my posts for fti was particularly pointed at this question.

i think the knowledge one has determines how you place situations, which becomes your experience, Which your mind can link the experience to the same situations and this (emotion you experienced in the past) can affect how you react to things in the future. but I like FTI's view on this, because I was completely wrong with my Thought sequences 'theory'.

Ruben
  • #56,564
  • Edited 9:52am Nov 26, 2016 6:18am | Edited 9:52am
Quoting ruben7222
{quote} Yes i think you are correct, the fight or flight, a certain emotion, the information stream, iT is all About perception. (Different people same situation different perceptions) But what creates the perception/emotion (by a situation) That we have? and my posts for fti was particularly pointed at this question. i think the knowledge one has determines how you place situations, which becomes your experience, Which your mind can link the experience to the same situations and this (emotion you experienced in the past) can affect how you react...
my friend, you ask the most difficult question.

you know, if you can answer this question, your read of the market will be very sharp.

i have been thinking about this one question for like 2 years, only small parts of it are answered.

One answer was, I don't use the Elliot 5 wave swing thingy, and I don't know how to count the waves too, I just see if the wave looks corrective as compared to the previous waves and try to time their reversals in line with the impulse waves. Sometimes, the market has 2 corrective waves of similar and slow speed, and that makes for having no directional bias so I just treat it as a range trade.

1 question like this is, when you say you are contrarian and trading a contrarian strategy, who exactly are you contrarian against or what are you contrarian against? so is there really such a thing as a contrarian strategy when the market has bulls and bears? So if you buy into pullbacks, won't you be simultaneously be contraction and trend following? Since you are contrarian the current swing, and following the major swing's trend. So essentially aren't you just trading swing's then? Then as you think deeper, even the swing part disappears doesn't it? Then it becomes simply trading.

All I mean to say is as time goes by, and you experience more, you will slowly learn that perhaps what seems right is actually wrong, and what seems wrong is actually right, perhaps because you did not encounter such before, which is the question of existence and learning. And as such therefore the black swan, so as info comes to light, ability to self correct and adjust is paramount and important



Seems like ff just became a philosophical forum
  • #56,565
  • Edited 8:06am Nov 26, 2016 6:58am | Edited 8:06am
you cannot understand.
what it takes to live in a currupt world.
With power , but holding steadfast to God and unyielding to currupt ways.
How many enemies and "friends" one creates because refuse to yield.
AND to find the way, make financial independence without a place for curruption. Untouchable fully skilled.
To searxh for place of same . Only to find, where there is no curruption of practise, there is still curruption. Curruption of ambition. Curruption of mind.
I leave my stuff behind, in hope that the same untouchables can find there own independence from curruption.
You not understand the real battlefield.
Understand now?

you are worried about emotions?
if you mind yields not to curruption, your hands will be clear.
if your mind yields to curruption, you will currupt your tools with your experience.
the scorpions creep in, unless one uses God given WILL resist.

it is not easy to understand.
no necessary evil.
I have not found another way to live free from the bondage of the chains that bounds.
float above slavery. There is a small space take from free unencunbered markets still.
The narrow path is closing.

You ask right and wrong. emotions? I ask if you can refuse evil. Necessary or without.
Overcome evil with evil? deception.
There is no right and wrong.
Only evil or not.

regards
  • #56,566
  • Nov 26, 2016 8:17am Nov 26, 2016 8:17am
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} Seems like ff just became a philosophical forum
philosophy is your theory of others.
life is what you think of self.

There's many philosopy, and they steal from each other when necessary.

regards
  • #56,567
  • Nov 26, 2016 8:31am Nov 26, 2016 8:31am
Quoting fti
{quote} philosophy is your theory of others. life is what you think of self. There's many philosopy, and they steal from each other when necessary. regards
Maybe they privately agree with each other but didn't say it out
  • #56,568
  • Nov 26, 2016 11:22am Nov 26, 2016 11:22am
The Markets are like a big Club. The only reason an indi or pattern works is because many traders are doing the same monkey thing making indi's and patterns work. Hence the reason for trading the London and NY Sessions. Lots of traders mean lots of repetitions of patterns. Just stay true to your method and manage monies. Indi's melt like ice in slow session times. Other people are making your trading a success or failure if you weaken and stray from method.
  • #56,569
  • Nov 26, 2016 1:21pm Nov 26, 2016 1:21pm
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} Maybe they privately agree with each other but didn't say it out
eeeer who is they?
and what has their private agreements have to do with anything?

why are you crying?

regards
  • #56,570
  • Nov 26, 2016 1:32pm Nov 26, 2016 1:32pm
Quoting ruben7222
{quote} I am sorry, but what do you mean with the above? Ruben
It means what is says, I am most happy drink tea. why?

regards
  • #56,571
  • Edited 2:24pm Nov 26, 2016 1:56pm | Edited 2:24pm
Quoting ruben7222
{quote} I can't, you must experience iT yourself. but what creates the emotions (while your in a situation) which becomes your experience? i think this is the assessment you made of the event, Which is a certain emotion (Joy/anger/etc.), and That this assessment is the creation of your knowledge. So your knowledge is responsible for the emotions you experience in a situation, and this becomes your experience. what do you think what creates the emotions in a situation? Ruben
So if you cannot.
then you must experience it before you can understand. This is correct.
Experience allows you to understand , so allows you to learn.

The emotions is your responds to a situation. you creates it, not what.
you are confusing the two.
Your emotions has to do only with you. How is "Knowledge" responsible for your emotions?

What creates emotions?
You.
fear , greed, desires..etc
Knowledge has to be free of the mentioned.
Because knowledge needs be fact.

regards

example.
FACT/knowledge :if you eat poison you will die.
Emotion: some peeps eat poison regularly.

eeeeeer not the same people.
  • #56,572
  • Edited 3:06pm Nov 26, 2016 2:08pm | Edited 3:06pm
Quoting dforant1
The Markets are like a big Club. The only reason an indi or pattern works is because many traders are doing the same monkey thing making indi's and patterns work. Hence the reason for trading the London and NY Sessions. Lots of traders mean lots of repetitions of patterns. Just stay true to your method and manage monies. Indi's melt like ice in slow session times. Other people are making your trading a success or failure if you weaken and stray from method.
Interesting, your thoughts.
Seems you have reached your conclusion already.

The moon is a ice ball. hahahahahahaha
I also know how to makes statements as i please?

eeeeer by the way, are you a trader? Nice entrance with expert advicement?
yes, is nice trade London and NY zone, Much natural liquidity. Less need for market maker liquidity.

The markets is a place where traders comes and buy and sell. They used to bring camels, now is just bulls and bears. and they bring their brokers.

regards

https://www.youcube.com/watch?v=BddSN2jNS9E

i remember granny once told me, in china, if you want get married, get a broker.
How civilisation had backslided.
  • #56,573
  • Nov 26, 2016 7:49pm Nov 26, 2016 7:49pm
Quoting fti
{quote} eeeer who is they? and what has their private agreements have to do with anything? why are you crying? regards
They = philosophers

Well, in philosophy, ideas when said, is as good as given, it's freely shared I guess, otherwise it won't be said, I think.
So maybe they shared similar thoughts on same subject, thereby sharing the same ideas.

Ah, thought it's a happy smiley
  • #56,574
  • Edited 9:03pm Nov 26, 2016 8:43pm | Edited 9:03pm
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} They = philosophers Well, in philosophy, ideas when said, is as good as given, it's freely shared I guess, otherwise it won't be said, I think. So maybe they shared similar thoughts on same subject, thereby sharing the same ideas. Ah, thought it's a happy smiley
ahhh i see.

oh ya, the smily, i though was crying.
ya i also try not use smiley , because it seem changed.
my bad, i not used to the new scheme yet.

regards

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  • #56,575
  • Nov 26, 2016 9:34pm Nov 26, 2016 9:34pm
Quoting fti
{quote} ahhh i see. oh ya, the smily, i though was crying. ya i also try not use smiley , because it seem changed. my bad, i not used to the new scheme yet. regards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N3f9ALU58U


something for the slow sunday afternoon.

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  • #56,576
  • Nov 27, 2016 4:21am Nov 27, 2016 4:21am
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} something for the slow sunday afternoon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmq9uSx_Eoc

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ok so what did you get me?

eeeeeeer where you hiding?

COOKIE !!!!!!
  • #56,577
  • Edited 5:10am Nov 27, 2016 4:55am | Edited 5:10am
Quoting fti
{quote} hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ok so what did you get me? eeeeeeer where you hiding? COOKIE !!!!!!


get you this?

weekdays trade the markets, weekends playing this to keep the mind stimulated

and also a cup of teh tarik?
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  • #56,578
  • Nov 27, 2016 7:41pm Nov 27, 2016 7:41pm
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} get you this? weekdays trade the markets, weekends playing this to keep the mind stimulated and also a cup of teh tarik? {image} {image}
hahahahaha eee no thank you.
is it virtual reality.

Is dangerous keep ramming into things in virtual.
When is real, the mind cannot discern the difference.
Is dangerous keep driving virtual cars over cliffs.
One day can become reality.
Then is too late.

Althought i like body in the sky, i prefer my feets on the ground when the tail is not on fire.

Thank you anyway, its the thought that counts.
teh tarik okok gooods

regards
  • #56,579
  • Nov 27, 2016 7:53pm Nov 27, 2016 7:53pm
Quoting fti
{quote} hahahahaha eee no thank you. is it virtual reality. Is dangerous keep ramming into things in virtual. When is real, the mind cannot discern the difference. Is dangerous keep driving virtual cars over cliffs. One day can become reality. Then is too late. Althought i like body in the sky, i prefer my feets on the ground when the tail is not on fire. Thank you anyway, its the thought that counts. teh tarik okok gooods regards
  • #56,580
  • Nov 28, 2016 1:24am Nov 28, 2016 1:24am
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote}

i used to play star craft long ago, can still remember my favourite cheat code "power overwhelming" and i send the trooper to clear the enemy base. hahaha, then, got introduced to online campaign, needless to say, cheatcode didnt work and got my ass kicked. but still much fun. I dont think my computer specs can run the game without lag.. but weekends, I usually go workout and sleep and family time, so try to keep screen time minimal.
Yesterday, a TV program was saying, after every 3hours, we need add 1 cup of green vegetable on top of the daily 3 cup needed for optimal eye care nutrition. I think I need find a vegetable farm soon.

Regards
Fall in love with the process, and the outcome takes care of itself.
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