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Hello everyone
@swtrue & quietrader
For you......

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Quoting JoeMcCool
{quote} Hello quieTrader, first i would say choose a sequence and stay with it (3 timeframes, example 4HR/1HR/15min) or take the weekly as your highest timeframe. Core rules are most important. bring order to those! Everyone in this thread likes to help but 6 charts with zones and someone telling you yes or no will not make you better. Keep on working Greets Joe
Thank you, you are right and thank you for the recommendation. Next time I'll try to put a only one chart in a sequence of three timeframes, It does not make sense to show them so much, but I wanted to show a bigger mistake I am doing, but I do not know where :-)). Therefore, I've uploaded more. It will not do, no one has time for this and thank you for understanding
English is not my native language
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone @swtrue & quietrader For you...... best wishes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk5RTVNzYNQ
Hello and thank you again,

I answered in the post above, it makes no sense to record as many images. Sorry for your time, do better next time

a webinar you could mention something about the three timeframes:
- the biggest is to determine where the price
- the smallest for entering trades
- the middle for better tuning of the smallest timeframe ? (like zooming from bigger to smallest) I still do not know certainly...
(youtube you gave trendline - momentum and how to draw the zone, but three of the timeframe you talked a little)
English is not my native language
Very helpful video Akt, many thanks.

Yes I am indeed committed to an early start on Monday morning The tropical weather we are having helps with early starts......only 5 days until I'm in UK tho....

Looking forward to the webinar
Quoting KiwiForex
Very helpful video Akt, many thanks. Yes I am indeed committed to an early start on Monday morning The tropical weather we are having helps with early starts......only 5 days until I'm in UK tho.... Looking forward to the webinar
Hello KiwiForex
Look forward to it too
speak sunday

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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
Weekend contemplation.....

"I am the only challenge i will ever have....and I am the only solution" - unknown

Believe in your dream.

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Hello everyone.

Big picture view of AUD/NZD for the day trader

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Hello Akt . I was thinking today about volumes in trading . Have you ever combine volumes with S.A.D. methodology .
Quoting Ajay999
Hello Akt . I was thinking today about volumes in trading . Have you ever combine volumes with S.A.D. methodology .
Hello Ajay999.
I don't personally but i know S.A.D traders who do.
It is very different to the way volume is used in traditional market analysis though.
It can matter more in centralized markets like futures but again, the way volume is viewed within the methodology would be very different to traditional analysis

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
Hi Atk and thanks for your contribution! If you could take a look at the attached chart and see if I'm getting it right.
Since price broke south 1.0000 level last week, I was expecting retrace and supply zone being at 1.0000, however, no sellers where convinced and price once again broke north of 1.0000, next week I will be expecting it to retest 1.0000 again, but this time I would consider it a demand zone. Traders who missed initial break probably will be interested to buy there, shorts will also likely start covering at this level.

I will look for tailed bar and retest of the zone before considering opening a position and target probably 1.0100

Cheerz..
G.
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Quoting Akt
Hello everyone @swtrue & quietrader For you...... best wishes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk5RTVNzYNQ
Appreciate it AKT!

I think it would be helpful to go more in depth on zone quality. Most of the charts you reviewed in the video had levels that didn't interest you, there always seems to be something "wrong" with it. I know you look at the move away, wicks, time spent etc. but I think if we spend some time breaking down good levels will be helpful. I think having the image of a quality level burned in your mind is key, and this would come with repetitive exposure to them.

Also, I see you trade intra-day at times, with so many pairs, stocks, futures to review I imagine with the years of practice you can do a quick scan of a chart for something that catches your eye. Say you're trading the 1HR, 15min, 3min...based on the theory you'd start with the largest time frame and work your way down. So my thinking is you'd pull up a 1HR chart and if something didn't jump out at you on that chart you'd move along to the next. So is there something you look for in particular? If the large time frame is a mediocre level are you no longer interested or do you drop down to your mid frame to see if a level looks better.

I think I'm trying to figure out when should I NOT analyze a pair. Is there something that I could see at a first glace that tells me to move along...

Thanks!
Nice end of this week, wti oil hit TP
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To break the rules you must first master them.
Quoting swTrue
{quote} Appreciate it AKT! I think it would be helpful to go more in depth on zone quality. Most of the charts you reviewed in the video had levels that didn't interest you, there always seems to be something "wrong" with it. I know you look at the move away, wicks, time spent etc. but I think if we spend some time breaking down good levels will be helpful. I think having the image of a quality level burned in your mind is key, and this would come with repetitive exposure to them. Also, I see you trade intra-day at times, with so many pairs, stocks,...
Hello swTrue,
you already mentioned what qualifies a zone because you have read it before. You can't look at a chart and say i don't analyze it. You make your top down analysis and come up with a result. buy, sell, WAIT. trained "eyes" are faster like Akts, my also take more time. Hope that helps.

Greets
Joe
Quoting avoleoo
Hi Atk and thanks for your contribution! If you could take a look at the attached chart and see if I'm getting it right. Since price broke south 1.0000 level last week, I was expecting retrace and supply zone being at 1.0000, however, no sellers where convinced and price once again broke north of 1.0000, next week I will be expecting it to retest 1.0000 again, but this time I would consider it a demand zone. Traders who missed initial break probably will be interested to buy there, shorts will also likely start covering at this level. I will look...
Hello avoleoo.
If i may...there was a very important word you used in your post, "expect".
That word is very very dangerous to the mindset we require to as S.A.D traders. it is embedded within the methodology..we never "expect" anything.
Why?
Because trading is a game of probabilities. We all know that intellectually but our minds have a certain way of not allowing that intellectual knowledge work its way into where we need it to be....embedded in our belief system about trading.
So, watch the impact of that word on your psychological capital.

We expect nothing and focus only on Process. We are not invested in outcomes. We are invested in process.

In terms of going long next week, it is important to only do so if the top down multiple time frame analysis concludes that going long is the most appropriate action to take. Please don't go long solely because a supply zone has been removed.

Best wishes
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Quoting swTrue
{quote} Appreciate it AKT! I think it would be helpful to go more in depth on zone quality. Most of the charts you reviewed in the video had levels that didn't interest you, there always seems to be something "wrong" with it. I know you look at the move away, wicks, time spent etc. but I think if we spend some time breaking down good levels will be helpful. I think having the image of a quality level burned in your mind is key, and this would come with repetitive exposure to them. Also, I see you trade intra-day at times, with so many pairs, stocks,...
Hello swTrue
Correct.
So, the decision to buy or sell is made following a top down analysis.
In terms of the number of markets, you are so correct.
So many to look at it is not often physically possible but then, i don't need to look at all of them.
For example, the chart of aud/nzd i posted yesterday for the intraday trader, it came on my intraday radar because it was at a daily supply zone
That was what immediately told me the most appropriate actions and protocols to activate.
You don't need to look at all the stocks or futures nor do you need to trade all of them, impossible as you know, for all sorts of reasons and it is actually not advisable.
I go where the opportunity is.
When i used to trade futures alone i did the same thing. Some markets like the futures markets are better suited for day trading (not that one can't swing trade them, they are great for that too). Due to issues with broker games, having a centralized exchange as is obtainable in the futures markets makes it better for an intraday trader to use them as the vehicle for intraday trades. Same for stocks

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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
Nice end of this week, wti oil hit TP{image}
Nice Mr.Phibo
Dinner is on you

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Quoting swTrue
{quote} Appreciate it AKT! I think it would be helpful to go more in depth on zone quality. Most of the charts you reviewed in the video had levels that didn't interest you, there always seems to be something "wrong" with it. I know you look at the move away, wicks, time spent etc. but I think if we spend some time breaking down good levels will be helpful. I think having the image of a quality level burned in your mind is key, and this would come with repetitive exposure to them. Also, I see you trade intra-day at times, with so many pairs, stocks,...
Here you go swTrue

the before and after

Please note i did not take these trades because i am focusing more on the bigger timeframes this month but as you know, i trade intraday some times, when i have the time. Busy week for me
I show the charts because i wanted you to see my thought process when i posted that daily chart yesterday, before the selling kicked off.

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Hello everyone.

Webinar reminder

Sunday night 8.30pm UK
If you haven't already, please send me your email address to get a link on sunday for the meeting

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hello everyone

EUR/NZD

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Quoting Akt
hello everyone EUR/NZD best wishes{image}
Hello Akt,
Monthly Supply is correct ? I see many wicks and the zone did nothing, except rally down. That's what makes a valid level? Only long rally 2:1 (rally:zone), or am I missing something ?

I post my picture. I'm not sure Deamand zone on Daily and her wick, but so I drew her
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