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Quoting txsundevilDislikedWackena
There are (2) Firebird files they are:
V63G-TS (28,560 bytes)
V63G-TS_2 (28,594 bytes)
which one did you use on your current test. on V63G-TS_2 tried to run this on a 30 minute chart it would not run however the other one does, what is the difference, as these were both posted in this forum?Ignored
Quoting wackenaDislikedFirebird v63g-TS on FXDD $5,000 demo for 1 month,
Balance - 16,113.28
P/L - 11,113.28
Equity - 14,354.40
Float P/L - 1,758.88 (10 open orders)
Profit Trades - 205
Loss Trades - 4 (first 3 trades were mistakely manually closed) Really only 1 loss trade.
On Aug 17, I turned on Money Management at 5% Risk. If you look at attached GIF chart, you can see the up turn in profits from this point.
Attached is detailed statement in excel, so I could delete personal data.
WackenaIgnored
Quoting cabletraderDislikedstill have a problem with this statement wackena
there are trades on here that do not match trading with what the ts expert is supposed to do
example:line 194 of your report
usdchf sell at 1.2378 - your target is only 30 pips and yet you said your target was 50 pips with a 30 pip 'staggered' trailer and then it closed for only 10 pips ?????
i can understand anything above a close of +25 as the stop staggers to that level on the trail. but 10, 11 and 12??
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</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2367999999999999">1.2368
</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2347999999999999">1.2348
</TD><TD class=xl23 style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107>2006.08.28 07:20
</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53 x:num="1.2367999999999999">1.2368
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 59pt" width=79 x:num="">0.00
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53 x:num="">0.00
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50 x:num="">-13.30
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</TD><TD class=xl25 style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107>2006.08.24 18:55
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 39pt" width=52>sell
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32 x:num="">0.57
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49>usdchf
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2378">1.2378
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2367999999999999">1.2368
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2347999999999999">1.2348
</TD><TD class=xl25 style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107>2006.08.28 07:20
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53 x:num="1.2367999999999999">1.2368
</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 59pt" width=79 x:num="">0.00
</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53 x:num="">0.00
</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50 x:num="">-13.30
</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64 x:num="">46.09
</TD></TR></TBODY><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107><COL style="WIDTH: 39pt" width=52><COL style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32><COL style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49><COL style="WIDTH: 35pt" span=3 width=46><COL style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107><COL style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53><COL style="WIDTH: 59pt" width=79><COL style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53><COL style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Ignored
Quoting cabletraderDislikedstill have a problem with this statement wackena
there are trades on here that do not match trading with what the ts expert is supposed to do
example:line 194 of your report
usdchf sell at 1.2378 - your target is only 30 pips and yet you said your target was 50 pips with a 30 pip 'staggered' trailer and then it closed for only 10 pips ?????
i can understand anything above a close of +25 as the stop staggers to that level on the trail. but 10, 11 and 12??
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 642pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=853 border=0 x:str=""><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 52pt" width=69><COL><TBODY><TR><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 52pt; HEIGHT: 11.25pt" width=69 height=15 x:num="2367128">2367128
</TD><TD class=xl23 style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107>2006.08.24 18:55
</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 39pt" width=52>sell
</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32 x:num="">0.57
</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49>usdchf
</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2378">1.2378
</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2367999999999999">1.2368
</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2347999999999999">1.2348
</TD><TD class=xl23 style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107>2006.08.28 07:20
</TD><TD class=xl22 style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53 x:num="1.2367999999999999">1.2368
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 59pt" width=79 x:num="">0.00
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53 x:num="">0.00
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50 x:num="">-13.30
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64 x:num="">46.09
</TD></TR></TBODY><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107><COL style="WIDTH: 39pt" width=52><COL style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32><COL style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49><COL style="WIDTH: 35pt" span=3 width=46><COL style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107><COL style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53><COL style="WIDTH: 59pt" width=79><COL style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53><COL style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE style="WIDTH: 642pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=853 border=0 x:str=""><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 52pt" width=69><COL><TBODY><TR><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 52pt; HEIGHT: 11.25pt" width=69 height=15 x:num="2367128">2367128
</TD><TD class=xl25 style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107>2006.08.24 18:55
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 39pt" width=52>sell
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32 x:num="">0.57
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49>usdchf
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2378">1.2378
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2367999999999999">1.2368
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.2347999999999999">1.2348
</TD><TD class=xl25 style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107>2006.08.28 07:20
</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53 x:num="1.2367999999999999">1.2368
</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 59pt" width=79 x:num="">0.00
</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53 x:num="">0.00
</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50 x:num="">-13.30
</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64 x:num="">46.09
</TD></TR></TBODY><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107><COL style="WIDTH: 39pt" width=52><COL style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32><COL style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49><COL style="WIDTH: 35pt" span=3 width=46><COL style="WIDTH: 80pt" width=107><COL style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53><COL style="WIDTH: 59pt" width=79><COL style="WIDTH: 40pt" width=53><COL style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Ignored
Quoting cloudy85Dislikedwackena
whats ur setting for this :
start_day
fin_date
magic number:
in_pip
sho_stat_ex
open_trade
????Ignored
Quoting accreteDislikedHi all, i have a Q related to the pshycology/trading mentality envolved while using EAs during trading and would enjoy some insight/feedback : )
I'm very new to the idea of traing with an EA. I've spent on average 5 to 6 hours a day studying the currency market, and actively trading manualy during the NY morning session mostly on intraday charts with moderate success. I say moderate because on average after all the gains/losses are calculated the average monthly return is 5-6%. Up the lots traded and this could increase.
Now i dable with the firebird ea over the last two weeks, and i have even the worst case out of the three at break even, and the number one producer at a whopping 20% gain in less than a week. But overal, a few days seeing what FB is doing and any "trader's esteem" that i might have had is quickly squashed by the superhuman job i'm seeing in the FB test. (I know it is to soon to count any virtual eggs, let alone the idea of real ones in a "live" account).
Here is my question to ponder and reply to. Is this real trading? By that i mean, lets say, that by the first of January 2007 we've all tweaked FB to a point of fairly consistant steady gains. Maybe that means 15-25% a month?? How do you as a person feel about using a robot to do your trading as opposed to doing things manually? From my wife's point of view, she is excited as all get up at the possibility of getting her man back from his Chart-Mistress if FB can pull off even a quarter of the 800ish pips the top producer brought in over the first handful of test days (see this post for details.
And in the same light, is this FB thingy realy real? or are we just dreaming? I know that TraderSeven has done a great job in prior posts at keeping our feet on the ground and telling of the possible hazards of FB.
Cheers,
ThomIgnored
Quoting TraderSevenDisliked@ accrete
If you wife starts nagging again tell her you swap her for a more recent model if the pips roll in![]()
(just kidding)
Lets get our head out of the clouds a bit and look at reality.
We all know life is hard.
90% loose in forex
5% break even
5% win. And part of that 5% are banks with huge resources.
10% a month *over the long run* is considered to be good trading.
I've seen Firebird doubling or even tripling accounts in a month.
That's 10 or 20 times better than what is considered good.
If Firebird was really that good then we will be in in Forbes magazine ahead of Bill Gates in a year.
Does that sound logical?
Not to me. If Firebird would do 20%/month in real trading over a period of 1-2 years it would be awesome.
That's still good; especially when compounding.
Always keep that in mind. Whatever the tests say.
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@ traderone
EA trading is just as real as manual trading.
A EA is just your brain transfere into a computer. Designing a EA
requires quite some skills too. It's not just start PC select
indicator and start trading.
And even if your friends don't see it as a real job it pays your bills
so it must be work. And they talk diffrently if you park your F40 next
to their PintoIgnored
Quoting suzukiDislikedTraderSeven, I have a question for you.
The other day I went through all the Firebird threads and I remember somewhere along the way you mentioned that you weren't too confident in Firebird because it may do well and six months down the road it may have a loss that wipes out all the profits.
I want to know what your level of confidence in Firebird right now. Would you trade it live (or are you)?
I ask because I've been demoing Firebird for a couple of weeks and I'm amazed at the preformance. But you being the original author have a good insight into the weaknesses of the system.
Thanks!
DivyaIgnored
Quoting YardieDislikedSuzuki,
Firebird has been changed a lot since Tradersevens abandoned the project. I think even 63G is not his. Now we have versions 1.0a, b and c and 63G-TS.
Speaking of the different versions. As predicted, version 1.0b start to shine again today. It likes actively moving markets not tight rangebound markets. Ditto for 1.0a which has the most impressive float vs booked pips ratio so far.Ignored
Quoting TraderSevenDislikedSpot on Yardie.
Are there detailed descriptions of what diffrent versions do?
It always make me feel better to know how it exactly works.Ignored
Quoting accreteDislikedHere is my question to ponder and reply to. Is this real trading?Ignored