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  • #241
  • Nov 16, 2016 8:48pm Nov 16, 2016 8:48pm
Quoting Crackpot
Im here, no pips to show, blown account, had no time to delete it and gather nice pictures on new one to post. I noticed something weird on myfxbook - searched manually traded accounts with low DD. Extremly fishy: 1. All accounts on same broker 2. All accounts opened on same day 3. All trades enetered same time, close little bit different 4. All deposits and withdrawals match And traders are supposed to be from Switzerland, Italy and UK - dont think so. http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Hade...nforex/1856086 http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Mich...ignals/1856002...
most must read over this, but friend, that is one interesting catch!!
a never heard broker from BVI.
identical entry sizes, closed trades by the pipette at the same profit.
ultimately, how much one can trust what posted on myfxbook?
obviously it is full of questionable stuff.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #242
  • Nov 16, 2016 9:56pm Nov 16, 2016 9:56pm
Quoting dkrock
Instead, we get inundated with lazy and ignorant people telling us to draw lines to connect trades that have ALREADY happened. Then you wonder why you feel scammed???? You are trading YESTERDAY!! Learn to trade, or leave the forum. Why would you come to a place to make ridiculous comments about subjects you have no clue nor interest in knowing? It is actually quite insane, and could indicate a potential disorder in your brain. Maybe go see a doctor, then get a real job, because this one is not for you.
ROFLMAO!
My Threads: Trading is as simple as 1-2-3, Highest Open / Lowest Open Trade
  • #243
  • Nov 16, 2016 10:07pm Nov 16, 2016 10:07pm
crackpot has cracked another guru
  • #244
  • Nov 16, 2016 10:28pm Nov 16, 2016 10:28pm
Really messy - way too many indicators... Heck, I bet it's just as good using the ol' stochastic on an M5 chart or entering on engulfing candlesticks... might have a go with this out of curiosity, but my preference is for a simple approach.
  • #245
  • Nov 16, 2016 11:28pm Nov 16, 2016 11:28pm
Quoting Fred-IV
{quote} Ok, are you sure that GB is not selling anything? OK, if not you are right. So I asked a question to GB in his/her thread, a polite one. And I am waiting for an answer. Also I believe it is you who should rethink your approach. The relevant question is if the results, both short and long term are true? Is there a some double bottom ( ) thing? Beecause if there is none what is a problem to devote 5 minutes and plug in this (or other accounts) to MyFxBook? Is it too much? Is it expensive? Does it require struggle or something? So...
Hello Fred,

You look like some one with an open mind and open to seeing other's point of view. So keeping that in mind, here is my take:

1. Ghost Biker is not selling anything here in FF.

I think there is a "Commercial Section" where members with a commercial point of view can post their threads.(I may be wrong, in that case feel free to correct me). If selling is the intention of any member, they can rightfully go there.

I don't want to get into hearsay, "well, emails must have gone to newbies, we don't know how many people got scammed, how much money was exchanged etc....."

I for one give benefit of doubt and there is no shred of evidence so far that GB made an attempt to sell anything here on FF


2. Asking to post TE or My FxBook has been demanded ad nauseam and it's the prerogative of GB whether to do it or not. If you read even some of the posts you know its a touchy thing for GB and you proceeded to ask the same and got booted out.

3. GB has done more credible than a TE or MyFxbook. She has disclosed the system for every one to see.

I will use your own logic and say this: The rules are there in front of you. Creating a demo account takes less than 5 minutes.

What's stopping you from testing the system for yourself???

4. As to the claims that GB is taking classes outside of FF for X Dollars:

What a person does outside is none of my concern. And as if to have an alternate Income Stream is tantamount to being guilty??

As far as i am concerned, GB gave a system for FREE, explained the rules and in spite of english not being her native language has gone and is still going to great length's to patiently answer questions and guide people. I am grateful for the generosity and the knowledge.

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Let me present some damning evidence of the intentions and seriousness of the people who are posting against Ghost Biker. The below screen shots should be self explanatory.

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All the rules are there on Post#1. You just joined the mob just for the heck of it and did not give the basic courtesy to GB by even reading the first post and yet you have the audacity to demand things??

FYI Post#1

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  • #246
  • Nov 16, 2016 11:37pm Nov 16, 2016 11:37pm
Quoting CrocodileRex
{quote} Others have said it and i will say it again. People like you are worse than Ghostbiker. Open your eyes and take a look at this screenshot here posted by ghostbiker himself. This is one of the trades taken by him. Ghostbiker was holding a trade with floating negative 650 pips just to earn 10 pips. What did he say on the first post of the system? Take profit 10 pips, stoploss 20 pips. When asked about any of the trades taken and why was his stoploss so big, he simply ignored the question and posted non-relevant stuff. Stop trying to defend...

Name calling again? . Let's keep things simple.

Quoting You:

"I already said before, ghostbiker has received many private messages from innocent newbies and you have no idea how much money he has scammed from here."


Not being sarcastic and/or trying to prove a point, but could you show the basis/proof for making the statement?
  • #247
  • Edited 3:16am Nov 17, 2016 2:52am | Edited 3:16am
Quoting aaven
{quote} Hello Fred, You look like some one with an open mind and open to seeing other's point of view. So keeping that in mind, here is my take: 1. Ghost Biker is not selling anything here in FF. I think there is a "Commercial Section" where members with a commercial point of view can post their threads.(I may be wrong, in that case feel free to correct me). If selling is the intention of any member, they can rightfully go there. I don't want to get into hearsay, "well, emails must have gone to newbies, we don't know how many people got scammed,...
You delibrately omit a huge contradiction where GB holds negative positions by hundreds of pips which is clearly against his/her stop loss rules. And we do not know how many more open positions which are in large negative territory the summation of which most likely shows a badly losing account.

This has been pointed out with many examples on this thread and the other. Scammers use this trick to hide their bad trades and show only the good trades in cropped pics. The way GB cropped and posted his/her trades with large negative drawdowns in hundreds of pips in between puts him/her in the same mould what a scammer does. Read GB's earlier comments on this thread about holding 100+ pips drawdown in response to this point, he admitted to it himself.

There is also no direct response from GB about the commercial blog which supposedly belongs to GB. A simple yes/no response will suffice but there's none.

Putting all these together, the scammer suggestion is not farfetched and you know as everyone else, that clear cut evidence you're looking for is not that easily gotten hold off. Much of such insidious activities happen behind PMs, emails and the like, I'm sure you know that. That's why this thread's purpose and the other is a huge red flag warning that that might be the case. And any such threads with fancy titles that promises the sky without proper evidence of trade performance over a period of time is highly suspect of scamming intentions.

Your no need for evidence stance on the back of such preposterous claims that GB made and delibrately sidestep the commercial intention does not hold water. Grow up and out of your naitivity whose comments is misleading the innocent and new to the game.
  • #248
  • Nov 17, 2016 3:28am Nov 17, 2016 3:28am
Quoting aaven
{quote} Hello Fred, You look like some one with an open mind and open to seeing other's point of view. So keeping that in mind, here is my take: 1. Ghost Biker is not selling anything here in FF. I think there is a "Commercial Section" where members with a commercial point of view can post their threads.(I may be wrong, in that case feel free to correct me). If selling is the intention of any member, they can rightfully go there. I don't want to get into hearsay, "well, emails must have gone to newbies, we don't know how many people got scammed,...
Not that I care but since you go out on a limb to defend GB, can you offer explanation why I was banned for the posts that I made on GB's thread. If you're not able to offer proper explanation will you similarly go onto GB's thread to defend me as well ?
  • #249
  • Nov 17, 2016 4:02am Nov 17, 2016 4:02am
Quoting skyway
{quote} Not that I care but since you go out on a limb to defend GB, can you offer explanation why I was banned for the posts that I made on GB's thread. If you're not able to offer proper explanation will you similarly go onto GB's thread to defend me as well ?
Chief,

No Idea on why you were banned. Neither did i try to find out nor am i going to.
  • #250
  • Nov 17, 2016 4:11am Nov 17, 2016 4:11am
Guys, I think this must be GB's next system? What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/GWDTGeBFpRg
  • #251
  • Nov 17, 2016 4:24am Nov 17, 2016 4:24am
Thanks crackpot. just made another 650 pips
  • #252
  • Nov 17, 2016 4:41am Nov 17, 2016 4:41am
Quoting leeshindig
Guys, I think this must be GB's next system? What do you think? https://www.youtube.com/embed/GWDTGeBFpRg
What the F#%& did i just watch?
  • #253
  • Nov 17, 2016 4:46am Nov 17, 2016 4:46am
Quoting skyway
{quote} You delibrately omit a huge contradiction where GB holds negative positions by hundreds of pips which is clearly against his/her stop loss rules. And we do not know how many more open positions which are in large negative territory the summation of which most likely shows a badly losing account. This has been pointed out with many examples on this thread and the other. Scammers use this trick to hide their bad trades and show only the good trades in cropped pics. The way GB cropped and posted his/her trades with large negative drawdowns...
Skyway,

It's unfair on your part to say that my comments are misleading the innocent and new to the game. Not really sure on how you arrived to that conclusion. I will try to keep it as simple as possible. What i am telling you, the new comers, or the N number of people who have already made up their mind about GB is this:

A.

"The Proof is in the pudding."

1. The rules are laid out.

2. It will hardly take 5 minutes to set up a demo.

3. Test the system for yourself and come to a conclusion.

I still believe it is the prerogative of the thread starter to show TE or MyFxbook.

B. As for your accusation that I am deliberately omitting a huge contradiction where GB holds negative positions by hundreds of pips: It is ridiculous on your part to expect me to give a rebuttal to every accusation that is out there. But, i will humor you:

The optimum T/P & S/L are clearly laid out for the system by the Thread starter. It's up to anyone whether to choose to implement it or tweak it or even do away and come with up with their own.

If GB or any one that is trading with X number of S/L pips or without S/L that's their choice. From what some of the people say, it looks like even GB has acknowledged this. As to why it is so, feel free to ask a question.

I am clear with this aspect, when i am testing the system stick with the original T/P & S/L, i will come to a conclusion for myself....

C. Quoting you:

"Putting all these together, the scammer suggestion is not farfetched and you know as everyone else, that clear cut evidence you're looking for is not that easily gotten hold off.Much of such insidious activities happen behind PMs, emails and the like....."

The short answer is you have zero evidence against GB???

Let me play the devil's advocate: Ever heard of this guy called Admin whom you can reach out with couple of lines of text who in my opinion can once and for all
clear this???


I will say this:

We have to appreciate when some one is going out of their way to help. It's one thing if GB's thread was exclusively composed of claims of making XYZ, but what is unbelievable to me: The system is laid out there, test it for yourselves people.

"TRUST,BUT VERIFY"

Some of the people's attitude is like this:

People should spent countless hours and effort in coming with a system. It should be made free. The specific rules must be laid out.The person should constantly guide,answer and be extremely patient to not only to him/her but everyone . Now that The lords interest is piqued, and they being busy cannot spend some time to check the system for them self. It is absolutely essential that to please the lords, there must be trade explorer or myFx or else "NO Bueno". As a final offering all the programming must be done and EA must be made available. Now if the system creator is lucky, the mighty lords will get down from his horse and press the button of the EA.


  • #254
  • Nov 17, 2016 4:51am Nov 17, 2016 4:51am
Quoting aaven
{quote} Hello Fred, You look like some one with an open mind and open to seeing other's point of view. So keeping that in mind, here is my take: 1. Ghost Biker is not selling anything here in FF. I think there is a "Commercial Section" where members with a commercial point of view can post their threads.(I may be wrong, in that case feel free to correct me). If selling is the intention of any member, they can rightfully go there. I don't want to get into hearsay, "well, emails must have gone to newbies, we don't know how many people got scammed,...
1. Really? Oficially not, but ask him/her in my name. I suspect that he really does. And "suspicion" is the key word here, Ill explain in a moment.

2. Yes, is a touchy thing, especially when we can find something that he wants to hide. For example big losers waiting 3 months to close. Such a system is a joke, pure and simple. I was banned after asking if his results are live or demo. Hilarious.

3. No disclosing the rules is in any way more credible than publishing ones results. Why? because newbie in his system like me will not came even close to the result of a specialist. And specialist will not disclose his. So how can I assess the value of this system? maybe I should consult a spiritual medium.

4. So if someone presents here some bogus system (I am not claiming here thet GB's is one, BECAUSE we have no statistisc, and GB want to forr some reason have it HIDDEN) and then sells his bogus "consulting" outside the FF is it OK with you? If so I suggest that you should work on this aspect of your integrity.

5. As above, noreover you posted screenshot with rules from another thread, unknown to me. Original is here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=614778 and please show me the rules of this King Crown System.
  • #255
  • Nov 17, 2016 4:57am Nov 17, 2016 4:57am
Thread looks like a x-mas tree, cant read, it hurts my eyes.

In real life, when people start to scream, you can hardly hear what they say, you just hear them screaming.
Please add more indicators, I still see the real price! Thanks!
  • #256
  • Nov 17, 2016 5:03am Nov 17, 2016 5:03am
Quoting aaven
{quote} Skyway, It's unfair on your part to say that my comments are misleading the innocent and new to the game. Not really sure on how you arrived to that conclusion.
Yes, your comments are misleading. Because it might be that this system is bogus, positions closed 10-15 pips a day with several pozitions on minus 1000 pips floating.

Certainly you have no experience in such systems, to spot one one needs to look at all transactions in the long term.

It is suspicious (look at your picture with the rules) that you have SL = 20 pips and TP = 10 pips and suddenly you have a minus 650 pips runner. And you cant see it on closed transactions. It might be closed eb=ven several months later (I spotted two runners both above 1000 pips in this German site closed 83 days later).

Currently I dont know how good is his system and frankly I dont care, suspect that it is another trashy one, I will not study it, it is a waste of time and money I suppose.

As for now, all looks very suspicious and my polite questions are causing panic, I'm considering reporting this to FF.

To GB: where are my answers to simple, polite questions?

Did you sell anything here?

Is it your website with training 2000 euros a day?

Guys not banned from GB's threads please ask him/her these.
  • #257
  • Nov 17, 2016 5:09am Nov 17, 2016 5:09am
Quoting aaven
{quote} As a final offering all the programming must be done and EA must be made available. Now if the system creator is lucky, the mighty lords will get down from his horse and press the button of the EA.
Lords might get down from the horse only in case when "the system" is not a simple scam.

And my question to you, have you any ties to GB?
  • #258
  • Nov 17, 2016 5:11am Nov 17, 2016 5:11am
Quoting Fred-IV
{quote} As for now, all looks very suspicious and my polite questions are causing panic, I'm considering reporting this to FF. To GB: where are my answers to simple, polite questions?
Hi,

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...85#post9261485

cheers
jf
  • #259
  • Nov 17, 2016 5:13am Nov 17, 2016 5:13am
Quoting le celte
{quote} Hi, http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...85#post9261485 cheers jf
Thank you Jean Francois
  • #260
  • Nov 17, 2016 5:17am Nov 17, 2016 5:17am
An ad for coca cola does not say "You must buy coca cola" now does it!?

An ad for cigarettes does not say "Hey you better go buy some cigarettes there great!" And yet they are banned.

And now, why do you think people go out and buy coca cola? Why do you think cigarette ads are banned in most countries in the world? Not saying you want people to buy what your selling or not telling people you are actually looking for commercial members does not mean that is not your goal.

Someone posted earlier about some guy on FF who spent a few years writing threads, building up trust then finally when the time was right he got some people to invest with him and low and behold, the next thing he was gone, never to be heard of again.....

Anyone trying to sell something on this site knows they will end up in the commercial section. So the obvious thing for any one with half a brain would be to try and show no actual intention of selling anything. Just bait the fish by showing false results and talking in code. Banning people for asking legitimate questions is also another thing that i dont understand at all. The first sign someone is doing wrong is they get aggressive when questioned about what they are doing.

I find it odd that one of GBs threads the first sentence is "This is not a commercial thread". Why would you write that? Do you know of any other trading journals or trading system threads that seem to feel the need to show "This is not a commercial thread". Fact is, that is a dead give away that it is a commercial thread.
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