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  • Oct 26, 2016 1:20pm Oct 26, 2016 1:20pm
  •  ziggy
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 604 Posts
Due Diligence

First and foremost a huge thanks to Dale for sharing his hard earned knowledge, I don't like to imagine how long it has taken Dale to become so proficient but I wouldn't mind taking a punt at several thousand hours over time. Huge respect

There are lots of people who for whatever reason cannot find the time to read thru the whole thread (I would thoroughly recommend that they do so as all you need to know to make great use of this shared knowledge is contained within these few pages) for those who cannot find the time here is a quick summary of the info contained.

1. The levels are not a prediction of where price will go, but a reasoned level where should price get there a reaction can be expected due to market participants having shown an interest at this level.

2. These levels are not traded when macro news events are due or have recently taken place, such news events generally have no regard to past levels. Once a reasonable passage of time has past, the levels can once again be set up as tradeable levels - what is reasonable, I'd say let the volatility subside before getting interested again.

3. If price sees a reaction a few (Dale has mentioned 1 to 2) pips prior to reaching the level, then stand aside because the probability of a reaction again from the same location is much reduced.

4. Dale does not use limit orders for entry, but uses market orders once the level has been reached, from my own experience I can say this often results in obtaining a better entry than a limit order would provide. Not everyone can sit at the screen throughout the day and most likely those people will have to use limit entries - but if you do so then you must be aware of the macro news events and pull any orders prior to those events hitting the wires.

5. Dale does not trade the Asian sessions, everyone needs to have a life outside of trading and the Asian session is the most iliiquid period, I'd suggest that if Dale doesn't trade it we'd all be wise not to either.

I have a word document which contains all of the levels provided by Dale, very useful to anyone wanting to have a look back at the charts with the levels to hand, I won't post it without Dales permission - but should he say yes I'll happily do so.

I also have an excel document where I've recorded information on those trades that have triggered, again provided Dale agrees I'll post it as an attachment (assuming FF allows such attachments). There are far too few entries to be taking stop loss and profit take decisions on, but it is never the less interesting to see the results different levels give. Also you can see how far against the levels price moves before going on to make 10 pips,

Anyone can trawl back thru this thread while it is the size it is, and find this info, but if Dale is happy then I'll share what I have. I should say that provided Dale is happy to continue sharing his knowledge that I expect this thread to soon become pretty huge, I should also say that you'd have to work really hard to find a way of not profiting from the info provided!!

Once again big thanks Dale Cheers Ziggy
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  •  billycajun93
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@Ziggy, OMG, if you could post the docs please do so. Happily waiting.
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  •  henri2500
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@Ziggy, OMG, if you could post the docs please do so. Happily waiting.
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I'll second that! Of course if Dale is oke with it
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  •  loveandpeace
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I am in the line too.
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  •  shimmering
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Quoting loveandpeace
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I am in the line too.
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yes, that would be most helpful!
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  •  13francisco
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@Ziggy, OMG, if you could post the docs please do so. Happily waiting.
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Yes, it would be very interesting.
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  •  lctrader11
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Here is a new eur/usd swing level with some explanation. Level was made using Price action, market profile and some knowledge of the market psychology/sentiment. Short 1.0961, SL 80 pips, PT 80 pips {image}
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Hi Dale, WOW! I've learned quite a bit from this thread, and have gone off to other sites to learn more about MP, Market Delta as it relates to PA. My question for you at this time is...from the E/U chart, with explanation you showed us, at the part of balance how did you know PA would go up before going down? Why couldn't the price just go ahead and go down? Also, how can you tell selling activity vs buying activity in a sideways market? Is it back to reading candlesticks and candlestick patterns?
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  •  TheBiafran
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Just to add a thing to to what Ziggy wrote about the Asian session from the summary made above.I stand to be corrected though,,I don't think Dale advises against placing a trade during the Asian session,I for one would like to trade during those period provided that there is no major news popping out.Because at those times levels are mostly respected with less room for manipulation by the major trading institutions ,but due to my timezone I'd probably be stuck in bed at that time.So it boils down to what timezone one is in.
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  •  mindspeculat
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{quote} It was a good level from market profile point of view but if I were to trade the level I would need more clear orderflow signal and it just wasnt there. Still. very good thinking and application MP !!!!
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Can you give us some hints what a clear orderflow signal is? I asked you before but if you don't want to answer, I understand. Thank you.
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  • Oct 27, 2016 3:20am Oct 27, 2016 3:20am
  •  Trader-Dale
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Intraday levels for 27.10.2016.
PT 10 pips, SL 12 pips.
Happy trading
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  •  imdisaait
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{quote} It took very long time for AUDUSD to go below 0.7687, seems its a key level... next such level would be 0.7662 and then 0.7647 hope once it pass below 0.7675 it may go quickly .............. lets see when we see 0.7605 hmm... today or tomorrow or when...!!! Hope you guys in profit by now!!! imdi
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Hi All

I just now exited half of my position in AU @0.7615 with VERY GOOD PROFIT....!!!!

Thanks to DALE......!!!
I set the rest of the position to run till TP @0.7692
set SL @0.7667
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By the way DALE
I just now entered USDCAD short trade @1.3385 - 1.3395 range with SL @1.3407
wold like to know if you have some facts about this trade to say....
I still dont have where to take profit but I only know weel 1.3400 wold be great barrier to go above due to past records....

Have very good day all
I got ot go out for while...
but waiting to modify USDCAD trade when get chance.
have a good day all
imdi
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  • Oct 27, 2016 3:53am Oct 27, 2016 3:53am
  •  cikurakum
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hey guys , cant find the rules for this tradings of Dale , remind me in which post i can find it , please
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  •  Trader-Dale
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Due Diligence First and foremost a huge thanks to Dale for sharing his hard earned knowledge, I don't like to imagine how long it has taken Dale to become so proficient but I wouldn't mind taking a punt at several thousand hours over time. Huge respect There are lots of people who for whatever reason cannot find the time to read thru the whole thread (I would thoroughly recommend that they do so as all you need to know to make great use of this shared knowledge is contained within these few pages) for those who cannot find the time here is...
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Thank you very much for your effort! I would be happy if you published the documents you made. Also if you could attach these points you made as a word document or something like that to this thread so people can find in the attachements without searching the thread. I find it very usefull because it nicely sums up the basics of trading my levels Big thanks!
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  • Oct 27, 2016 3:59am Oct 27, 2016 3:59am
  •  Trader-Dale
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Quoting lctrader11
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{quote} Hi Dale, WOW! I've learned quite a bit from this thread, and have gone off to other sites to learn more about MP, Market Delta as it relates to PA. My question for you at this time is...from the E/U chart, with explanation you showed us, at the part of balance how did you know PA would go up before going down? Why couldn't the price just go ahead and go down? Also, how can you tell selling activity vs buying activity in a sideways market? Is it back to reading candlesticks and candlestick patterns?
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I am not sure it will go up and reach that level. Only sure thing is that IF the market reaches this price I will go short .
Selling vs. buying activity - in this case it is mostly reading price action. So yes - candlestics But there is no preferred timeframe for this I just look at the whole picture - doesnt matter if I watch m5, m30 or daily charts.
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  • Oct 27, 2016 4:05am Oct 27, 2016 4:05am
  •  ziggy
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 604 Posts
Hi Guys

Please find attached my word doc which contains all of Dales intraday levels in one place - it will help anyone who wishes to to some back tracking

Cheers ziggy
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  • Oct 27, 2016 4:08am Oct 27, 2016 4:08am
  •  Trader-Dale
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Just to add a thing to to what Ziggy wrote about the Asian session from the summary made above.I stand to be corrected though,,I don't think Dale advises against placing a trade during the Asian session,I for one would like to trade during those period provided that there is no major news popping out.Because at those times levels are mostly respected with less room for manipulation by the major trading institutions ,but due to my timezone I'd probably be stuck in bed at that time.So it boils down to what timezone one is in.
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You are right. I dont advise against trading asian session. However I wouldnt say that it is better because it isnt manipulated. "Manipulation" isnt that bad because we can predict it and make money from it (this depends on what you call manipulation). I would just trade what time suits you.
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  •  Trader-Dale
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{quote} Hi All I just now exited half of my position in AU @0.7615 with VERY GOOD PROFIT....!!!! Thanks to DALE......!!! I set the rest of the position to run till TP @0.7692 set SL @0.7667 ------------- By the way DALE I just now entered USDCAD short trade @1.3385 - 1.3395 range with SL @1.3407 wold like to know if you have some facts about this trade to say.... I still dont have where to take profit but I only know weel 1.3400 wold be great barrier to go above due to past records.... Have very good day all I got ot go out for while... but waiting...
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usd/cad seems quite risky to short now. it seems extremely long biased to me. Of course there could be corrections but I will only look for long trades there. I would be extra carefull with your short.
Good job on the aud/usd!!!
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  • Oct 27, 2016 4:23am Oct 27, 2016 4:23am
  •  ziggy
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 604 Posts
Hi Guys,

My excel file attached - there are some things you need to know about this file.

1. I have used FXCM mt4 chart to get my data from, although I actually trade on a non MT4 broker
2. I have set this up so that if the chart itself makes +10, the stop becomes break-even, that means that if the trade misses it's PT by the spread it becomes a BE trade.
3. You can change the stop loss level in cell K2
4. You can change the PT level in cell L2

This spreadie assumes entries to be right on the level, in practice because I am using market orders many of my entries have been at slightly better levels, this also means in practice I have made 10 pips profit where that might not be the case on the spreadsheet. Also here in the UK I spreadbet these trades, (no tax for UK residents on spreadbetting), the spread charge I have shown is what my broker charges, yours might be different.

What I am saying is this file is representative but not necessarily 100% accurate for everyone. I have left the stop loss at 20 and the PT at 15, with a BE once 10 is reached, I've done so to show that you can change the settings - use points 3 & 4 above to make changes and see how it changes - I think you'd find it really difficult to not make a profit using these levels.

Cheers Ziggy
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  • Oct 27, 2016 4:34am Oct 27, 2016 4:34am
  •  ziggy
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Member | 604 Posts
As requested by Dale I've attached a word doc which should help answer commonly asked questions - will be helpful to newcomers to the thread.

Cheers Ziggy
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  • Oct 27, 2016 4:42am Oct 27, 2016 4:42am
  •  NejcFX
  • | Joined Sep 2016 | Status: Newbie | 26 Posts
Quoting ziggy
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2. I have set this up so that if the chart itself makes +10, the stop becomes break-even, that means that if the trade misses it's PT by the spread it becomes a BE trade.
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Is this possible to programm into mt4 to do it autmatic - once when spread is covered to move SL at BE point if for example lets say profit is 5pips?

Thanks for attached files, I'm sure they will come handy to many of us.

Edit: USDCAD - done +10
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