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  • Oct 23, 2016 4:18pm Oct 23, 2016 4:18pm
  •  Fisher755
  • Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,589 Posts
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{quote} Thank you Mr. Fisher. Your results clearly show that this strategy has worked well for you Do you use any tool to scan the 28 pairs ? I came across a tool called Angulator which uses TDI. I do not know yet if that is going to help me catch a move on specific pair. I do agree that there is no alternative to personally eye-balling higher time-frame of each pair in deciding which to act on.
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You are welcome.
There is no magic tool or indy, because they are all lagging. Even PVSRA if we wait for M15 trend confirmation ( denmas is usually not, but he has excellent money management and not many traders have that, so TOP/BOTTOM picking can be very dangerous.
I see a problem here if you want to use the indy you mentioned as entry trigguer...IT IS LAGGING- especially because you mentioned you are trading H4. I do not know you very good yet and have no idea about your trading expirience or history, so I will comment for traders in general here.
As you have noticed I am using Multi-TF Bias myself. Tah wanted to code it for M15 50EMA at first for easier heads up when scanning thru pairs. After some consultation he took serious my comments and the result is wonderful new indy. BUT, that is all it is - just another wonderful indy that is wonderfully lagging too.
So in the end- it is probably not sooooooooooooooo much better than simply stochastic would be, but the thing is that PVSRA reading once mastered has very high probability- just that I have many many times faced the problems with right direction, but timing not so right (too soon entry) so this results in DD at least, if not even in red trade.

Long story short- IMO PVSRA is the best possible TA tool you can ever have but needs to be mastered properly and also studyed properly . Howewer, expirience with trading PVSRA teaches the trader about HTMRW and this is equaly important if not even more important. So you need much time and patience here to learn really good and also gain enough expirience. The results can be amazing, but it is not at all easy to come to that point.
And- after you have done all of that- DISCIPLINE is playing a pretty big role too.

I am definitly not indys dependant trader, I like my charts as simple and as clean as possible, so I am scanning thru most of the pairs on the weekend without any bias or indy (Only PURE PVSRA TPL and some horizontal lines) - search for PVSRA clues and plan the trading weeek ahead- in sense that I leave most interesting charts open on my MT4 to observe further first few trading sessions of a new week.
PVSRA
PVSRA+TLs M5-H1 Forward Test All Time Return: 33.8%
 
 
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  • Oct 23, 2016 4:52pm Oct 23, 2016 4:52pm
  •  foxtrader16
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Be brave, be courageous, be prudent | 492 Posts
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{quote} You are welcome. There is no magic tool or indy, because they are all lagging. Even PVSRA if we wait for M15 trend confirmation ( denmas is usually not, but he has excellent money management and not many traders have that, so TOP/BOTTOM picking can be very dangerous. I see a problem here if you want to use the indy you mentioned as entry trigguer...IT IS LAGGING- especially because you mentioned you are trading H4. I do not know you very good yet and have no idea about your trading expirience or history, so I will comment for traders in...
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I have been studying the PVSRA and am now getting in the practice of starting with HTF and placing a trade using M15.
I am not a regular and probably trade 3 to 4 times in a week. But this can improve as I get more confident in trend spotting and art of PVSRA.
I have been trading forex as hobby for the past 2 years.

Btw a newbie question. What is HTMRW ? I have not noticed that here ? Or may be I missed it.
In fact that is a security question on your and Tah's new forum site and I am not aware of the answer
Live life king size !
 
 
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  • Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,589 Posts
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{quote} I have been studying the PVSRA and am now getting in the practice of starting with HTF and placing a trade using M15. I am not a regular and probably trade 3 to 4 times in a week. But this can improve as I get more confident in trend spotting and art of PVSRA. I have been trading forex as hobby for the past 2 years. Btw a newbie question. What is HTMRW ? I have not noticed that here ? Or may be I missed it. In fact that is a security question on your and Tah's new forum site and I am not aware of the answer
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LOL

HTMRW- How The Market Really Works

Imho you did not read very well...it is mentioned in my past posts from few weeks ago or so.

Here it is...
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USDJPY Long Trade Open/Close: Explanation on chart. 35.5 pips average gain per EP. BTW, here was special situation before entry- PVSRA was screaming long, but all trends were down at the moment of first entry. This is rare, but can happen before important High impact news when MMs are extremly manipulating PA. {image} EDIT: It shows How The Market Really Works in all it's glory. Very important for all that want to learn to trade seriously.
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  •  foxtrader16
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{quote} LOL HTMRW- How The Market Really Works Imho you did not read very well...it is mentioned in my past posts from few weeks ago or so. Here it is... {quote}
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Thank you so much. Yes, it does seem I will have to pay more attention
Live life king size !
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2016 11:10am Oct 24, 2016 11:10am
  •  MisterG
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audusd weird hedge attempt
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have a green week
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  • Oct 24, 2016 12:19pm Oct 24, 2016 12:19pm
  •  man.forex
  • | Joined Aug 2016 | Status: PVSRA | 15 Posts
usd classic entry closed ... average 35 pips
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  •  MisterG
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usd classic entry closed ... average 35 pips {image}
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You nailed it again , great work ! Unfortunately I missed this one , oh well. But I thing that's yet just another one perfect example of a textbook classic long ! I found out that the narrow range pre setup is also very helpful and a good indicator that the setup is valid , those with a narrow start work best. Maybe it is due to the fact that in a narrow range sL placement is well defined and in most cases risk to reward ratio is good too. Pay attention cause this is gold. It really doesn't get better than this :
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  • Oct 24, 2016 1:13pm Oct 24, 2016 1:13pm
  •  Fisher755
  • Joined Jan 2015 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 1,589 Posts
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{quote} You nailed it again , great work ! Unfortunately I missed this one , oh well. But I thing that's yet just another one perfect example of a textbook classic long ! I found out that the narrow range pre setup is also very helpful and a good indicator that the setup is valid , those with a narrow start work best. Maybe it is due to the fact that in a narrow range sL placement is well defined and in most cases risk to reward ratio is good too. Pay attention cause this is gold. It really doesn't get better than this : {image} G.
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Agree if you are looking only at M15, but this is infact buying high, so not so perfect classic long setup more like perfect TVT20. Fast In Fast out Perfect. CLassic setups define first breakout and are executed much earlier on HTF chart.
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USDCAD PVSRA TVT20 Long Trade Open/Close:

Explanation on chart.
36.3. pips average gain
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  • Oct 24, 2016 2:44pm Oct 24, 2016 2:44pm
  •  MisterG
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Quoting Fisher755
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{quote} Agree if you are looking only at M15, but this is infact buying high, so not so perfect classic long setup more like perfect TVT20. Fast In Fast out Perfect. CLassic setups define first breakout and are executed much earlier on HTF chart. {image} {image} USDCAD PVSRA TVT20 Long Trade Open/Close: Explanation on chart. 36.3. pips average gain {image}
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Yeap , I refered to m15 only , that's correct , it was buying high so let's stick with FIFO terminology. But even considering this FIFO approach , market more often than not will follow the initial impulse direction. The perfect situation for FIFO is like in your last UC chart. We have impulse move up , then market is resting in a tight consolidation/range and than follows one more time with an impulse move. Thanks for the remarks Fisher I do appreciate them a lot
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  •  man.forex
  • | Joined Aug 2016 | Status: PVSRA | 15 Posts
Quoting MisterG
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{quote} You nailed it again , great work ! Unfortunately I missed this one , oh well. But I thing that's yet just another one perfect example of a textbook classic long ! I found out that the narrow range pre setup is also very helpful and a good indicator that the setup is valid , those with a narrow start work best. Maybe it is due to the fact that in a narrow range sL placement is well defined and in most cases risk to reward ratio is good too. Pay attention cause this is gold. It really doesn't get better than this : {image} G.
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AGREE
NO GREED ALWAYS GREEN
 
 
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  •  man.forex
  • | Joined Aug 2016 | Status: PVSRA | 15 Posts
audusd long closed ..
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  •  tulis
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 87 Posts
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audusd long closed .. {image}
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Hello,

man.forex please next time write Explanation on the chart. It will be easy for our colleagues. Check my, fisher and all other post .....

Thanks, T.
A small profit is better than a big minus...
 
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  • Oct 25, 2016 9:46am Oct 25, 2016 9:46am
  •  MisterG
  • Joined May 2014 | Status: Member | 400 Posts
I am done 4 today, finished green but with some advantures. At first I took a late long in AUDUSD anticipating the break of "W" or double bottom formation to the upside. ( I was considering a short too , but m15 H&S pattern was to extended to the upside in my opinion for the collapse. Well I was wrong after all)After I took it , I quickly scrolled through charts and saw very nice TVT20 opportunity on NZDUSD this one was obvious and confirmed by volumes. The problem was that NZDUSD was a short setup and I was loaded long on AUDUSD. I kept in mind that those pairs are correlated closely , so I knew that one of my trades was in the wrong direction. I was hesitant so I closed the right one - short on NZDUSD, confirmed by volumes with a small loss. And than I realized that MM's are loading shorts where I went long for a "W" breakout. The volumes at the highs on m15 and m5 were crazy. So I closed the long AUDUSD for a small profit and menaged to load up my short. By that time NZDUSD went down as expected so I knew that AUDUSD has to collapse just a little but it has to. So it did , took my profit with short scout I guess and went flat for the day with a decent profit.
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Take care
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Hell of a ride it was AUDUSD long
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  •  man.forex
  • | Joined Aug 2016 | Status: PVSRA | 15 Posts
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Hell of a ride it was AUDUSD long {image} G.
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nice shot MisterG.. i was also take long last night.. but lack of patience i was closed with 10 pips..
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  • Oct 26, 2016 5:42am Oct 26, 2016 5:42am
  •  tulis
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 87 Posts
EURJPY PVSRA Long Trade Open/Close....

Explanation on chart.
+20.0 pips average gain.
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A small profit is better than a big minus...
 
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  • Oct 26, 2016 6:27am Oct 26, 2016 6:27am
  •  ghassem
  • | Joined Dec 2012 | Status: Member | 9 Posts
GBPJPY TVT signal

1. bull activity under round number
2. the round number break.
3.the price goes up and kiss the round number again
4. the price close above dragon
5. dragon had good angle
Tp was 20 pips.
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  • Oct 26, 2016 10:20am Oct 26, 2016 10:20am
  •  man.forex
  • | Joined Aug 2016 | Status: PVSRA | 15 Posts
AUDUSD CLOSED WITH 29 PIPS..
I AM STILL LEARNING AND MY ENGLISH IS POOR.
I JUST TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT HAVE TRADE..
IF I AM WRONG PLEASE CORRECT ME
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  • Oct 26, 2016 7:52pm Oct 26, 2016 7:52pm
  •  mambomango
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imho its wrong how you use the volume informations including the volume bars. volume is strongly time associated.
you look for de/increasing volume but you didnt consider that the volume changes every day at the same time so you have every day one hour where you have the higest average volume. that means an increasing volume means nothing because the increase happens anyway everyday at the same time.
e.g. the red line represents the average volume for every specific hour for the last 20 days. the green bars are showing the recent volume.

what do you think about comparing the recent volume with the average volume based on the past days and not the past bars?
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  •  ruma29
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where to turn off alert PVA?
 
 
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