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  • #1,361
  • Oct 13, 2016 5:22am Oct 13, 2016 5:22am
  •  Hpt
  • Joined Jun 2015 | Status: everybody trade at one`s own risk | 648 Posts
My question is from all the crosses on the chart which one you take ??
from level to level - you need mental strength to reach the summit
  • #1,362
  • Oct 13, 2016 5:24am Oct 13, 2016 5:24am
Quoting Hpt
USDJPY M15 this is the view with first cross after NFP , so whats wrong ? ths chart is after your rules {image} this is from PP to PP with break of SMA 200 the price little different {image}

Ah sorry, 2 different subjects thought you were referring to the advance Fibonacci recent posts................ignore we talking two different subjects. Your charts are brill there are no issues
  • #1,363
  • Oct 13, 2016 5:26am Oct 13, 2016 5:26am
Quoting Hpt
My question is from all the crosses on the chart which one you take ??

Yes first cross high to low or low to high for up. Your right on the Fibo method correct
  • #1,364
  • Edited 5:46am Oct 13, 2016 5:36am | Edited 5:46am
  •  Hpt
  • Joined Jun 2015 | Status: everybody trade at one`s own risk | 648 Posts
Thx , no problem

what I mean is , which one in time you say this is my first cross , example NFP is 7.10.2016 so the first cross directly after NFP ? to determine the TP
for this NFP cycle till NOvember

sorry english is not my first language

thx for your time
from level to level - you need mental strength to reach the summit
  • #1,365
  • Oct 13, 2016 5:51am Oct 13, 2016 5:51am
Quoting Hpt
Thx , no problem what I mean is , which one in time you say this is my first cross , example NFP is 7.10.2016 so the first cross directly after NFP ? to determine the TP for this NFP cycle till NOvember sorry english is not my first language thx for your time
Its ok, and if the following is not a understandable explanation then please ask again.

Basically if we trading below the most recent NFP then the next subsequent lower NFP level should be considered as a target if we are in a bearish market. Opposite for Bullish Market.

I would consider any NFP within last 6 months to be valid.

But trading say one particular months NFP high and low. We should gap and fade those moves between them in the direction of expected break out
  • #1,366
  • Oct 13, 2016 5:57am Oct 13, 2016 5:57am
  •  Hpt
  • Joined Jun 2015 | Status: everybody trade at one`s own risk | 648 Posts
Quoting Dennis1468
{quote} Its ok, and if the following is not a understandable explanation then please ask again. Basically if we trading below the most recent NFP then the next subsequent lower NFP level should be considered as a target if we are in a bearish market. Opposite for Bullish Market. I would consider any NFP within last 6 months to be valid. But trading say one particular months NFP high and low. We should gap and fade those moves between them in the direction of expected break out

I understand now its clear for me

now you can drink a cup off coffee
from level to level - you need mental strength to reach the summit
  • #1,367
  • Oct 13, 2016 6:02am Oct 13, 2016 6:02am
Quoting Hpt
{quote} I understand now its clear for me now you can drink a cup off coffee
Cool thanks http://resources.forexfactory.net/im....png?v=1.0.0.0
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  • #1,368
  • Edited 6:19am Oct 13, 2016 6:07am | Edited 6:19am
just closed a 50 pip position now went to 15 pips so unexpected droped back to far for comfort closed it ....still a win so thats attitude

So if you look at the 15 pip plus the 25 i closed exactly the entire length of the move anyway 40 pips so sucks yes but thats trading. A win is bling...See we got to be chilled thats important part of psychology, having a plan helps massively with that.....everyday is pretty much the same and results are similar. Remeber from my TA do not expect a break below 103 80 103 60/50 bad data can easerly break that mark
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  • #1,369
  • Oct 13, 2016 6:14am Oct 13, 2016 6:14am
Wont make anymore trades until news later, theres some red Data.

:30pmCAD
NHPI m/m
0.3%0.4%USD
Unemployment Claims
252K249KUSD
Import Prices m/m
0.1%-0.2%5:30pmUSD
Natural Gas Storage
84B80B6:00pmUSD
Crude Oil Inventories
  • #1,370
  • Oct 13, 2016 6:36am Oct 13, 2016 6:36am
being opportunist here if this goes bad i will be out quick - just put in the 3rd long for the day
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  • #1,371
  • Oct 13, 2016 7:05am Oct 13, 2016 7:05am
Quoting Dennis1468
being opportunist here if this goes bad i will be out quick - just put in the 3rd long for the day {image}

got that right
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  • #1,372
  • Oct 13, 2016 7:44am Oct 13, 2016 7:44am
Hold or not to Hold that is the question/ Shake out time on the CPR as usual /same old repetition
  • #1,373
  • Oct 13, 2016 8:53am Oct 13, 2016 8:53am
Quoting Dennis1468
{quote} Hi Can you try to make a J forex indicator - simple does the following When applied to Chart the Indicator simply lets you put in a number like 104 then next across alows you to enter say NFP oct 21 , has up to 10 manual data fields, Once filled manually it will show the Horizontal level as a line / horizontal line on the right of chart prior to price. the text associated with that line will priNt to the Left so it lookS as below pic basically A MANUAL LEVEL AND LINE DRAWER AS A INDICATOR. Would appreicate thanks {image}
Hi Dennis... it's possible but you will need to fill the values/labels at start/change of the indicator. I will try when i have some spare time and keep you informed.

JL
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  • #1,374
  • Oct 13, 2016 9:48am Oct 13, 2016 9:48am
Quoting Dennis1468
{quote} Its ok, and if the following is not a understandable explanation then please ask again. Basically if we trading below the most recent NFP then the next subsequent lower NFP level should be considered as a target if we are in a bearish market. Opposite for Bullish Market. I would consider any NFP within last 6 months to be valid. But trading say one particular months NFP high and low. We should gap and fade those moves between them in the direction of expected break out
How are we distinguishing between BULLISH MARKET and BEARISH MARKET?
What are the criteria?
Thank you.
Cheers.
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  • #1,375
  • Oct 13, 2016 9:52am Oct 13, 2016 9:52am
Quoting jlongo
{quote} Hi Dennis... it's possible but you will need to fill the values/labels at start/change of the indicator. I will try when i have some spare time and keep you informed. JL
thx
  • #1,376
  • Oct 13, 2016 9:53am Oct 13, 2016 9:53am
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} How are we distinguishing between BULLISH MARKET and BEARISH MARKET? What are the criteria? Thank you. Cheers.

6:00pmUSD
Crude Oil Inventories after news i will map out
  • #1,377
  • Edited 10:22pm Oct 13, 2016 10:10pm | Edited 10:22pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} How are we distinguishing between BULLISH MARKET and BEARISH MARKET? What are the criteria? Thank you. Cheers.
Hi Its such a important question. It requires a detailed answer. I cant just cover it of the bat. Requires some explanation it will come. Firstly will take a look of my trades this week thus far. Then will cover why I took them. which will cover your super question in 3 parts

First part thats the actual UJ trades - If you Compare that to our TA trade plan you will see how we profited from short Cover when it goes Wrong. Next will Cover when I do my Weekly Pre market why I determine/how if its a bull or bear week
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  • #1,378
  • Edited 10:51pm Oct 13, 2016 10:39pm | Edited 10:51pm
UJ Daily Chart Daily, This is Pretty much when I started the thread to tell the bears time to be bulls

If you note during the end of a bear phase market flattens out as it makes its way to the high channel line. In a real down trend the market continues down and pops the high channel. makes a new low before making it to the upper channel. At the dying cycle market hits a really round handle. Buyers like those -bears scared of those. then on the return of hitting the handle, on return from first upper channel test no new low is made on the return and the lowest lows remain the same.
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  • #1,379
  • Oct 13, 2016 10:49pm Oct 13, 2016 10:49pm
UJ Daily Chart In purple is all I need to get started buying for at least a few weeks. As price moves further to the right I grow in Confidence if 2 attempts fail to brake the low: As the CRAZY W developes my confidence is blinded to Zero and I just look to keep buying
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  • #1,380
  • Edited 11:07pm Oct 13, 2016 10:54pm | Edited 11:07pm
Quoting Dennis1468
UJ Daily Chart In purple is all I need to get started buying for at least a few weeks. As price moves further to the right I grow in Confidence if 2 attempts fail to brake the low: As the CRAZY W developes my confidence is blinded to Zero and I just look to keep buying {image}

Monthly Chart UJ - Market Cycles

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