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  • #1
  • First Post: Sep 24, 2016 1:21pm Sep 24, 2016 1:21pm
I could see lot of programmers out here in forexfaxtory.So I'm glad to share my idea.
I'm hoping to develop simple price action neural Indicator which is not like traditional one that shows signals.I'm looking for an indicator that labels every candle and makes projection.

Steps:
1.calculate number of bull actions(bull ticks) per candlestick and display it on top of it in blue color.
2.calculate number of bear actions(bear ticks) per candlestick and display it on bottom of it in pink color.
3.correlate the blue and pink numbers with historical candles.
4.if correlation occured then display the next candle of history correlation as a projected future candle.

"New fresh ideas are also welcomed"

I don't like to spoil this thread and let it be progressive one.

Happy programming,
Xbeast
  • #2
  • Sep 24, 2016 8:14pm Sep 24, 2016 8:14pm
looks insteresting Idea
  • #3
  • Sep 24, 2016 11:02pm Sep 24, 2016 11:02pm
things like that already exist, you can find this easy here in FF and out in other websites.

try Nostradamus, brilliant and discipline indicators

good luck
  • #4
  • Sep 24, 2016 11:37pm Sep 24, 2016 11:37pm
Quoting ruben-trader
things like that already exist, you can find this easy here in FF and out in other websites. try Nostradamus, brilliant and discipline indicators good luck
If you have one like this,please share here bro.
  • #5
  • Sep 25, 2016 2:44am Sep 25, 2016 2:44am
My thoughts on this...

We need something like a "Pattern Database" that the indicator is linked to.

Have a program that will analyze price action historical data and find similarities.

Similarities can factor in the following:
Size, shape, angle, time, momentum, scale, geometry, price levels, spreads and other market environment factors that are repeating.

How many times that similarity repeated itself and you will get your winning %.
  • #6
  • Sep 25, 2016 2:51am Sep 25, 2016 2:51am
Quoting IonTrading
My thoughts on this... We need something like a "Pattern Database" that the indicator is linked to. Have a program that will analyze price action historical data and find similarities. Similarities can factor in the following: Size, shape, angle, time, momentum, scale, geometry, price levels, spreads and other market environment factors that are repeating. How many times that similarity repeated itself and you will get your winning %.
Your idea will give more accuracy but still i could'nt find a programmers to support previously mentioned idea itself.Hoping to develop a great Indicator.
  • #7
  • Sep 25, 2016 3:54am Sep 25, 2016 3:54am
Hi Xbeast, maybe one of these indicators can help you
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9071247
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  • #8
  • Sep 25, 2016 4:12am Sep 25, 2016 4:12am
Quoting Js3mwtRc
Hi Xbeast, maybe one of these indicators can help you http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9071247
Thanks for that link bro,I tried them all well before and found nothing in that is promising.So,only I started this thread and I dont know how it develops but I think this indicator should work.
  • #9
  • Sep 25, 2016 8:19am Sep 25, 2016 8:19am
Quoting Xbeast
I could see lot of programmers out here in forexfaxtory.So I'm glad to share my idea. I'm hoping to develop simple price action neural Indicator which is not like traditional one that shows signals.I'm looking for an indicator that labels every candle and makes projection. Steps: 1.calculate number of bull actions(bull ticks) per candlestick and display it on top of it in blue color. 2.calculate number of bear actions(bear ticks) per candlestick and display it on bottom of it in pink color. 3.correlate the blue and pink numbers with historical candles....
I think the correlation might be a problem. There are so many variations with contradictory outcomes that the output is not useable
  • #10
  • Sep 25, 2016 8:41am Sep 25, 2016 8:41am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} I think the correlation might be a problem. There are so many variations with contradictory outcomes that the output is not useable
Hi mingray,it's good to see you here.
If you could program it,let us improve from that point.I have more strategy to help this indicator from that base level.
  • #11
  • Sep 25, 2016 9:27am Sep 25, 2016 9:27am
Quoting Xbeast
{quote} Hi mingray,it's good to see you here. If you could program it,let us improve from that point.I have more strategy to help this indicator from that base level.
It's a good idea, but I don't know how to get around the fact that MT4 does not provide for tick history. Perhaps it may be possible to build the tick history database real time for a while.
  • #12
  • Sep 25, 2016 9:44am Sep 25, 2016 9:44am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} It's a good idea, but I don't know how to get around the fact that MT4 does not provide for tick history. Perhaps it may be possible to build the tick history database real time for a while.
Let A be candle open,then have it as reference level to calculate each bull and bear moves until candle close.
Is it possible??
  • #13
  • Sep 25, 2016 1:11pm Sep 25, 2016 1:11pm
something like this one? GRID SIGHT INDEX, from fxcm, but I don't think it works on mt4.
https://www.dailyfx.com/gspilot
  • #14
  • Sep 25, 2016 2:37pm Sep 25, 2016 2:37pm
Quoting Js3mwtRc
Hi Xbeast, maybe one of these indicators can help you http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=9071247
  • #15
  • Sep 25, 2016 2:59pm Sep 25, 2016 2:59pm
I know what you wanna do, total understand your idea, but you're far way from a strategy to overcome banks, brokers, dealears... market as well.
Please, try to understand me, I'm not saying your idea is bad, I could say that it has potential, YES, it has, but trust me, you need much more than 4 steps to create a neural system or even to call it neural strategy.

In my last work, I've tried to share here in FF, but I had too much stress with people, and decided to close it.

I have GBPUSD HST 99.90% complete since 1970, now I've created an oracle DB with allll those info, so far easy.

Problems:

1) How to get low latency, fast execution and super fucking internet speed from my fucking country?
A: No way, only out of this shit.

2) How to process that big fucking info?
A: Extreme server infra is required, and when I say extreme, it's really EEXXTTRREEMMEE.

3) Cost with the server above?
A: Renting: $2k/monthly ----> Buying: $18k Dell power edge


So, that's it.... as you can see, I had to give up, no conditions to afford some venture like that.

My advice, don't give up, I had to, but I'd like to don't.
  • #16
  • Sep 25, 2016 8:59pm Sep 25, 2016 8:59pm
Quoting ruben-trader
I know what you wanna do, total understand your idea, but you're far way from a strategy to overcome banks, brokers, dealears... market as well. Please, try to understand me, I'm not saying your idea is bad, I could say that it has potential, YES, it has, but trust me, you need much more than 4 steps to create a neural system or even to call it neural strategy. In my last work, I've tried to share here in FF, but I had too much stress with people, and decided to close it. I have GBPUSD HST 99.90% complete since 1970, now I've created an oracle DB...
Is there any other shortcuts?
.Really thanks bro for your information and there is no way for me to give up this time.
  • #17
  • Sep 25, 2016 9:09pm Sep 25, 2016 9:09pm
Quoting sorin24
something like this one? GRID SIGHT INDEX, from fxcm, but I don't think it works on mt4. https://www.dailyfx.com/gspilot
Thanks bro,how to use it açcurately to determine the next candle bro.I could see clear pin bars and it is useful.
But they claim they process millions of data but they are not predicting and they are just giving edges and tops.
  • #18
  • Sep 26, 2016 3:13am Sep 26, 2016 3:13am
Hello Xbeast!

Regarding to your PM, I have read throuh the thread and have a few remarks.

I guess you know, that a tick is not a constant value in pips or in price, it is more like a signal, when new data is available, and the chart refreshes itself.
A bar, for wxample, with a given amount of bullis and a given amount of bearish ticks can look quite different, than an other candle with the same values. The prediction could be made regarding the amount of bearish and bullish ticks regarding the new candle (with pink or any other color), but regarding it's shabe, probably not.

Another thing is, hat MT4 does not save tick data, so upon starting such an indicator, you would need gather the data from the live chart and save it somewhere.

The good news is, that this can be done, however, I am not sure, that it will be accurate in all chases. All the indicatros nees some time to run, and, while the tick counting and storing could be easily done, the more data you want to cross reference it, the more amount will the running of such an indicator will take.

Considering the above mentioned risks, please notify me, if you are still interesten in this.

Gorraf
  • #19
  • Edited 7:06am Sep 26, 2016 6:44am | Edited 7:06am
Quoting Gorraf
Hello Xbeast! Regarding to your PM, I have read throuh the thread and have a few remarks. I guess you know, that a tick is not a constant value in pips or in price, it is more like a signal, when new data is available, and the chart refreshes itself. A bar, for wxample, with a given amount of bullis and a given amount of bearish ticks can look quite different, than an other candle with the same values. The prediction could be made regarding the amount of bearish and bullish ticks regarding the new candle (with pink or any other color), but regarding...
Thank you gorraf for considering my PM and showing interest.
Now I could understand the difficulty in obtaining tick values so,I came up with nice idea.
Consider m1 candle as ticks and predict other tf candles with respect to m1 candle.
For making accuracy we need to consider velocity also.
Ex)for predicting m5 candle ,
1.Consider 5 m1 candle

2.calculate count of bull m1 candle and bear m1 candle then label it on top and bottom.

3.calculate total lenght of bull m1 candles then divide it with count of bull m1 candles.
Then similarly for bear m1 candles.So that we get velocity of bull and bear and display it on top and bottom of m5 candle.

4.calculate gap velocity between each m1 candles and label it on bottom of m5 candle.

5.finally we get 5 different numbers.
A)bull m1 count
B)bear m1 count
C)bull velocity
D)bear velocity.
E)gap velocity.
Consider these 5 numbers for correlating in history and predict future m5 candle.

Apologise me if I'm making programming tough,I don't know anything in this case.

Thank you

Truely,
Xbeast
  • #20
  • Edited 3:13pm Sep 26, 2016 2:27pm | Edited 3:13pm
Quoting Xbeast
{quote} Is there any other shortcuts? .Really thanks bro for your information and there is no way for me to give up this time.
find coder that use .net gpu abstractions
​and maybe nothing more than 200usd gtx will be sufficient to make lightning fast number crunching
​​

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/pfx...-c-amp-from-c/


And coding that - Russians are best [second best, since im Polish ]
in terms of quality and price.
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