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  • #37,441
  • Sep 10, 2016 1:40pm Sep 10, 2016 1:40pm
Overall still bear market since middle of 2011. Have to break that trendline witch is on 1361 but i highly doubt that. May be after FED.
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  • #37,442
  • Sep 10, 2016 2:15pm Sep 10, 2016 2:15pm
Quoting Mr.Dan
Overall still bear market since middle of 2011. Have to break that trendline witch is on 1361 but i highly doubt that. May be after FED. {image}
Exactly.
  • #37,443
  • Sep 10, 2016 2:31pm Sep 10, 2016 2:31pm
for a trading position this is still a short for me untill proven otherwise ... let's see how the week goes ...
  • #37,444
  • Edited 5:28pm Sep 10, 2016 4:46pm | Edited 5:28pm
depends on your perspective ,I guess theres no momentum to think long ?current weekly trend = up
longer term , i put the target 1500 before the low or even 1200 below there is weekly trend down to get to there you have to cut through that 3 month consolidation below
maybe that yearly tweezer means nothing or the big bear never confirming means nothing
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  • #37,445
  • Sep 10, 2016 4:51pm Sep 10, 2016 4:51pm
Many ways to determine trend. No way is wrong, just depends upon what works for you.
I like the simple HH, HL, etc.... :-)

Currently have HH & HL so uptrend.
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  • #37,446
  • Sep 10, 2016 5:00pm Sep 10, 2016 5:00pm
perfect agreed

Quoting srt
Many ways to determine trend. No way is wrong, just depends upon what works for you. I like the simple HH, HL, etc.... :-) Currently have HH & HL so uptrend. {image}
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  • #37,447
  • Sep 10, 2016 5:09pm Sep 10, 2016 5:09pm
Quoting srt
Many ways to determine trend. No way is wrong, just depends upon what works for you. I like the simple HH, HL, etc.... :-) Currently have HH & HL so uptrend. {image}
Which makes perfect sense ... if you enter and exit Gold trades on a weekly only chart or at least a daily chart.

Do you?

I notice that the last time you posted in this topic was over 6 months ago. Curious do you have trades that last that long?
  • #37,448
  • Sep 10, 2016 5:17pm Sep 10, 2016 5:17pm
you can not trust that tl yet ,its not confirmed at all over a long distance of no touches

Quoting Mr.Dan
Overall still bear market since middle of 2011. Have to break that trendline witch is on 1361 but i highly doubt that. May be after FED. {image}
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  • #37,449
  • Sep 10, 2016 5:17pm Sep 10, 2016 5:17pm
Quoting SunTrader
{quote} Which makes perfect sense ... if you enter and exit Gold trades on a weekly only chart or at least a daily chart. Do you? I notice that the last time you posted in this topic was over 6 months ago. Curious do you have trades that last that long?
I was just giving my view of the long-term trend. Had nothing to do with my positions.

***I have futures positions(not in PMs) in my account that I've been holding for over 2 years so "yes", I do hold for long periods of time. Currently been holding PM positions for about 4-6 months. Most are options.
  • #37,450
  • Sep 10, 2016 5:18pm Sep 10, 2016 5:18pm
my tl is the same ,I've reason to think its good


Quoting Bones
depends on your perspective ,I guess theres no momentum to think long ?current weekly trend = up longer term , i put the target 1500 before the low or even 1200 below there is weekly trend down to get to there you have to cut through that 3 month consolidation below maybe that yearly tweezer means nothing {image} {image}
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  • #37,451
  • Edited Sep 11, 2016 8:05am Sep 10, 2016 5:35pm | Edited Sep 11, 2016 8:05am
oil also is currently in a weekly up trend
break this Q or next preferably this
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  • #37,452
  • Sep 10, 2016 5:47pm Sep 10, 2016 5:47pm
yea but he dose not have to ,to spend time on larger TFs is not pointless should you trade less TF

Quoting SunTrader
{quote} Which makes perfect sense ... if you enter and exit Gold trades on a weekly only chart or at least a daily chart. Do you? I notice that the last time you posted in this topic was over 6 months ago. Curious do you have trades that last that long?
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  • #37,453
  • Sep 10, 2016 6:30pm Sep 10, 2016 6:30pm
Quoting srt
{quote} I was just giving my view of the long-term trend. Had nothing to do with my positions. ***I have futures positions(not in PMs) in my account that I've been holding for over 2 years so "yes", I do hold for long periods of time. Currently been holding PM positions for about 4-6 months. Most are options.
Might be a matter of opinion but I think of that as investing.

Otherwise with trading the timeframe that matters is the one that one is trading in - and a level higher for guidance.

And so obviously those who are continuously mentioning here - entered long, entered short - are not looking at weekly charts if their trades lasts minutes to hours.
  • #37,454
  • Sep 10, 2016 8:16pm Sep 10, 2016 8:16pm
look at a quarterly chart or a 6month chart with some indicicatos on and there won't be any doubt lef in your mind that this is a healthy bull market. However in the context of hours/days this is a short to me. So waiting to see that reverse and getting out at the first sign of 'long trouble' on the sub-daily timeframes = 6H or 8H or 12H.
  • #37,455
  • Sep 11, 2016 3:21am Sep 11, 2016 3:21am
maybe going forward your be glad I posted a very high tf chart , you see a super reversal just sub 1300 maybe 200 under ,
maybe thats a weekly flag that breaks with conviction eventually to the top side ,or bounces off bottom as Ive suggested
your already be aware thats very likely be a runner ,thats what top down is ,its about having conviction thats got substance

lets see what next
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  • #37,456
  • Edited 4:04am Sep 11, 2016 3:41am | Edited 4:04am
my conviction is high ,because I've worked on higher tf ,I know market will push me to the limit ,but I wont change my mind
till it dose something different
id call it trading with a solid edge


Quoting Bones
now I know ,I have time on my hands you don't {quote} {image}
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  • #37,457
  • Sep 11, 2016 4:04am Sep 11, 2016 4:04am
Quoting Mr.Dan
Overall still bear market since middle of 2011. Have to break that trendline witch is on 1361 but i highly doubt that. May be after FED. {image}

Quoting srt
Many ways to determine trend. No way is wrong, just depends upon what works for you. I like the simple HH, HL, etc.... :-) Currently have HH & HL so uptrend. {image}
this is why i love this game so much.

still long
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  • #37,458
  • Sep 11, 2016 4:16am Sep 11, 2016 4:16am
Quoting m3rlin
{quote} {quote} this is why i love this game so much. still long
you love it so much that you cant even tell both are talking about gold?

and you post a silver chart?
  • #37,459
  • Sep 11, 2016 4:18am Sep 11, 2016 4:18am
for me it's clear: short term I am a trading bear, long term I am a bull .... should make anybody happy :-)
but I am a trader, that's what I do to make a living ... I live and die by the 6H chart ...
  • #37,460
  • Sep 11, 2016 4:34am Sep 11, 2016 4:34am
Quoting Bones
my conviction is high ,because I've worked on higher tf ,I know market will push me to the limit ,but I wont change my mind till it dose something different id call it trading with a solid edge {quote} {image} {image}
Bones, your htf charts are very good!
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