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  • #241
  • Sep 4, 2016 4:39am Sep 4, 2016 4:39am
Quoting v2vboni
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Excellent....I be back later have to do some stuff
  • #242
  • Sep 4, 2016 5:02am Sep 4, 2016 5:02am
Quoting vwap
{quote} People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it. - George Bernard Shaw
Your issue is like yourself everyone thinks they are doing it but really they are just trolls hanging around like a bad smell instead of using their time efficiently doing it
  • #243
  • Sep 4, 2016 5:09am Sep 4, 2016 5:09am
Quoting Dennis1468
{quote} Does not warrant a reply however, your extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Firstly give us respect by reading the dam thread. Not one of your comments had anything to do with anything on this thread. Back up your comments with extraordinary Evidence. Now here is mine OV and Open. The wide initial balance will be hard to break apart from a spike to the stops. So I put my entry on the stops. And got filled and went to the bank. Please supply your evidence to counter the above? Thank you...........The evidence the pre-planing...

It seems you have no idea how to make money trading... your topic says how to catch the moves and either your lacking literacy skills or have no clue understanding what I wrote, since I gave you all the evidence needed but refused to accept them...

LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR MR PROFESSIONAL TRADER LOL... YOU DON'T MAKE MONEY BY PREDICTING WHEN TO ENTER A MARKET MR PROFESSIONAL MAN BUT YOU MAKE PROFITS BY CLOSING ORDERS.
But you would know that if you were making money from trading.

AM I WRONG? You seem to take a path of a professional scammer because a professional trader would be investing his best time trading and calculating when to exit open orders not writing rubbish in forums lol

P.S When I asked if I was wrong I was actually showing everyone how stupid your thinking was land you have absolutely no clue about making money. You concentrate on opening orders at random instances and no offence but so stupid think and try to make everyone think they are winners before they were closed out. All professionals know only after an order is closed that profits are made. You can't buy a house on an open order.... no bank give I.O.U's anywhere!
  • #244
  • Sep 4, 2016 5:12am Sep 4, 2016 5:12am
Quoting Dennis1468
{quote} Hi Bro, we taking you step by step to the concepts that make us few professional traders live in peace and happiness.....we are mapping it out. bit by bit. Theres so much to Cover which is another reason professional traders dont take on a task of such magnitude. For me I like it because its tightening my skills as a refresher just talking about it and trading it live for you guys. Talk the talk and walk the walk,,, doing it for ya Also this is a point in my Life when I am not so much traveling around Asia visiting friends. Another baby...
Thanks for your reply. So what you are saying is that with more information, you can make better decisions?
  • #245
  • Sep 4, 2016 5:32am Sep 4, 2016 5:32am
Quoting Dennis1468
{quote} Excellent....I be back later have to do some stuff
one advise for you: concentrate on what you came to do,there will be distractions but just do your thing. answer relevant questions and just keep moving on,i believe you don't want your journal to contain too deep distractions running into pages as that will make people who want to learn just shy away.

i don't really agree with everything or some of your stuffs posted here but i don't have to become a mofu to start attacking your ideas as they are your ideas and not mine.
Everything so far makes a little sense to me though even if i don't quite understand it and not interested in understanding it.
Nothing stands in the way of a person's will -THE MYSTICS
  • #246
  • Edited 6:33am Sep 4, 2016 5:32am | Edited 6:33am
Quoting tradability
{quote} AM I WRONG? You seem to take a path of a professional scammer...
If Dennis turns out to be a scammer, he will soon expose himself, won't he? Why bother anyway?

However, if Dennis happens to be a good trader and does what he teaches, there is a good chance your attack and claims on him to be very offensive. And all traders that do follow him might lose something... big. It is hard to fight with people like you. Dennis might lose desire to continue. Don't give diamonds to the pigs, kind of thinking, you know...

Better wait, and then judge. Judge him when you have some real proofs. Until you gather your real proofs, shut it all up and better focus on gathering some good stuff, which will eventually expose Dennis. Thank You, for reasonably thinking over my suggestions.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #247
  • Edited 6:42am Sep 4, 2016 6:26am | Edited 6:42am
Quoting tradability
{quote} It seems you have no idea how to make money trading... your topic says how to catch the moves and either your lacking literacy skills or have no clue understanding what I wrote, since I gave you all the evidence needed but refused to accept them... LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR MR PROFESSIONAL TRADER LOL... YOU DON'T MAKE MONEY BY PREDICTING WHEN TO ENTER A MARKET MR PROFESSIONAL MAN BUT YOU MAKE PROFITS BY CLOSING ORDERS. But you would know that if you were making money from trading. AM I WRONG? You seem to take a path of a professional scammer...
Hello tradability....

Obviously, once we open an order, we are trying to make profits. Then, we made profits upon closed order(s) which based on signal(s) with our own perceived TP (manual or set) or adjusted SL in profit price level.

Now, I'm just wondering how you open an order base on your signal(s)? ---If you are kind enough to share a little, please tell us the type of signal(s) that made the most profits for you. If you are willing to share more about it, you can create another thread... and that would be great.


Thanks and regards.
Since Frank Sinatra sings in his own way, my chart sing... I did it, my way
  • #248
  • Sep 4, 2016 6:40am Sep 4, 2016 6:40am
Hi Dennis: just one question... This thread will be your personal toughts about "The secrets of Pivot Boss" ? Just done a transversal reading on it and this thead appears to be almost a copy of the content there... it works for your way of trading ?
Started a blog: terraceman blogspot com
  • #249
  • Edited 8:33am Sep 4, 2016 7:20am | Edited 8:33am
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Since Frank Sinatra sings in his own way, my chart sing... I did it, my way
  • #250
  • Edited 9:25am Sep 4, 2016 8:58am | Edited 9:25am
Quoting jlongo
Hi Dennis: just one question... This thread will be your personal toughts about "The secrets of Pivot Boss" ? Just done a transversal reading on it and this thead appears to be almost a copy of the content there... it works for your way of trading ?
Thats is one of the Greatest books of all time.......................spot on. We just disguising proven methods and Frank is a mentor of mine for the past 10 years. And as stated in this thread! nothing here is mine I dont own it and would be a massive claim to suggest I have out witted the best traders in the world with my own invention or creation. I am wise enough to do what the best do and thats how I make the calls.

I have my own spin on similar concepts to frank, and Franks concepts are based on the concepts of the greatest traders of our time and past. Yes they work, but its the hardest journey to learn as its the real thing.

Get the book
  • #251
  • Edited 9:21am Sep 4, 2016 9:05am | Edited 9:21am
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} If Dennis turns out to be a scammer, he will soon expose himself, won't he? Why bother anyway? However, if Dennis happens to be a good trader and does what he teaches, there is a good chance your attack and claims on him to be very offensive. And all traders that do follow him might lose something... big. It is hard to fight with people like you. Dennis might lose desire to continue. Don't give diamonds to the pigs, kind of thinking, you know... Better wait, and then judge. Judge him when you have some real proofs. Until you gather your...
And as stated before I am only a product of my mentors....I am sharing to, I am 52 now I do not see my self trading for another 16 years. So I am sharing
  • #252
  • Sep 4, 2016 9:08am Sep 4, 2016 9:08am
Quoting tradability
{quote} It seems you have no idea how to make money trading... your topic says how to catch the moves and either your lacking literacy skills or have no clue understanding what I wrote, since I gave you all the evidence needed but refused to accept them... LET ME MAKE IT VERY CLEAR MR PROFESSIONAL TRADER LOL... YOU DON'T MAKE MONEY BY PREDICTING WHEN TO ENTER A MARKET MR PROFESSIONAL MAN BUT YOU MAKE PROFITS BY CLOSING ORDERS. But you would know that if you were making money from trading. AM I WRONG? You seem to take a path of a professional scammer...
Its not my thinking. Its the work of the greatest traders, why dont you study trading then you would sound like a trader
  • #253
  • Sep 4, 2016 9:15am Sep 4, 2016 9:15am
If you guys want to continue this journey we can, but its up to you, Otherwise I just post the reference materials and close this thread. And go back to the UJ trade live page..................and leave my calls there. Cant be bothered with being picked on by tractability (Name says it all) . Market is closed this is my free time have a great Sunday.
  • #254
  • Sep 4, 2016 9:29am Sep 4, 2016 9:29am
POST 62 OF THIS THREAD

Quoting kef2138
Interesting thread, subscribed! Might I suggest you gather all the key points into the first several posts? As the thread grows, it will be very difficult to follow your train of thought across dozens of pages.
Yes I know, its going to be difficult as its not mechanical. This stuff gonna get wild when we get past trading basic..................

This may help:

FLOOR PIVOTS HERES SOME BASIC STUFF PRINTED IN TRADER MANUALS

" do not undertake the work unless I see my way clear to a profit."

Jesse Livermore , Larry Williams, Williams, Ochoa

COPY PASTE FROM Frank Ochoa

The first significant awakening of my trading career occurred when I first discovered the power of Floor Pivots. Until then, I was trading solely off chart patterns and candlestick combinations and never knew there was an underlying road map to each chart I traded. Once the Floor Pivots were revealed me, however, a completely different gear was reached in my trading and market analysis. I felt as though I had finally joined the trading elite. Floor Pivots have been around for a long time and many traders have used these pivots to master the market for decades. Larry Williams re-popularized the formula by including it in his book, How I Made One
Million Dollars Last Year Trading Commodities, in 1979. He described the "Pivot Price Formula" that he used to arrive at the next day's probable high or low. Many great traders have adopted the pivots and have even incorporated them into many indicators that you may know today. While these pivots can go by many names, including Pivot Points, Floors, or just pivots, I typically call them the Floor Pivots since they really became popular once traders on the floors of the a"{changes began to use them. The pivots were a simple way for floor traders to forecast the day's potential support and resistance levels, since they didn't have sophisticated computers on the floors of the exchanges at the time. This name also helps to distinguish them from other types of pivot points, since there are other types that are unrelated to the ones we will discuss.
Floor Pivots are extremely powerful price-based support and resistance levels that are calculated using a prior period's high, low, and close.
Floor Pivots offer an amazing way to view the market. They are like night-vision goggles, illuminating the moves of the market even in the most uncertain of times. As you begin to study the pivots on a deeper level, you will begin to see the correlated nature Have ever seen are the Floor Pivots and price behavior. The main reason these pivots can be so unbelievably accurate is the simple fact that market participants are watching and trading these key levels. Trader psychology, and human nature for that matter, has remained the same for centuries due to fear, greed, hope, and uncertainty. These are the reasons why traders continue to react to key levels in the charts the same way over and over again. This is also the reason why these pivots have stood the test of time and will continue to work into the future. We will delve deeper into Floor Pivots in this chapter and will unlock extremely powerful concepts that run deep in the market.
  • #255
  • Sep 4, 2016 9:42am Sep 4, 2016 9:42am
Hi Dennis

There are some people that only wants to disrupt other threads, not adding value to the thread. As thread owner, i think you can control who can post to the thread ( i know that is not desirable, but sometimes no other way is possible)

Just keep going forward as some people have the interess on discussing the subject no matter what.

Just another question, how do you get the values of POC, VAH, VAL on JForex. Jforex don't have any market profile indicator, there exist one or two related developed externaly but not working very well. Just to not reinvent the wheel.
For CBR i will make my own as i now know the calculations.

TIA

JL
Started a blog: terraceman blogspot com
  • #256
  • Sep 4, 2016 9:46am Sep 4, 2016 9:46am
Quoting jlongo
Hi Dennis There are some people that only wants to disrupt other threads, not adding value to the thread. As thread owner, i think you can control who can post to the thread ( i know that is not desirable, but sometimes no other way is possible) Just keep going forward as some people have the interess on discussing the subject no matter what. Just another question, how do you get the values of POC, VAH, VAL on JForex. Jforex don't have any market profile indicator, there exist one or two related developed externaly but not working very well. Just...

What we can do is the following. I will send all the java indicators that are require for CPR and market profile. They wont work on MT4 but you can download a demo from any broker that runs J forex Platform. Myself and My team of Quants have spent a lot of time on this stuff. Its ok its all free, we make our money trading. As said I am sharing 16 years of work.

Also Chicago Mercantile Exchange have all the MP profile stuff on line...its all free https://www.cmegroup.com/education/i...e/handbook.pdf
  • #257
  • Sep 4, 2016 10:01am Sep 4, 2016 10:01am
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  • #258
  • Sep 4, 2016 10:06am Sep 4, 2016 10:06am
Quoting Dennis1468
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I think you can put them in a .zip and upload
  • #259
  • Sep 4, 2016 10:09am Sep 4, 2016 10:09am
Quoting Dennis1468
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Have you tried compressing to zip ?

JL
Started a blog: terraceman blogspot com
  • #260
  • Sep 4, 2016 10:31am Sep 4, 2016 10:31am
Quoting jlongo
{quote} Have you tried compressing to zip ? JL

thanks
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