Time Dynamics

Time Dynamics is about the Basic structures of market and effects of time on price trends.
Knowing when to trade is at least 50% of trading. and Timing requires a professional thread. that is why in this thread we are just talking about timing of trades and not trading.
Having a time plan for trading is vital because if you spend most of your time in front of charts to find a trading opportunity, market will get you and drown you finally.
In this thread I tried to explain a short version of my system in the simplest words as it was possible
I have been working on this system for a very long time and my intention was not to build a trading system so you might think it is more useful to NASA than FF members
Anyway I decided to share my work with FF members because I did not find any useful thread or article about using Fibonacci time zone and generally timing in the market. you can read the simple version of this article with less trading examples in here: https://timedynamics.wordpress.com/

1-Time Spiral Gravity:
Every experienced trader is aware of the importance of S/R lines but there is another dimension as important as Horizontal lines in our charts, vertical lines which defines time.
But because of its complicity a few people use it in their trades.
The first concept in Time Dynamics is what I call (Time Gravity).
For a better vision let me make an example:
If you look at the galaxies and our own solar systems shape you will see that planets are spinning in a spiral disc form.
Let us consider that is because gravity force nature is a cloud of plasma around the stars and planets which is being electrically charged and Ionized by magnetic fields of that planet and spreading in universe with the spinning speed of planet around itself. This spin will make the spiral gravity field of plasma streams, which will spin with almost the same speed. and it will trap smaller objects in it. So the stronger magnetic field is the stronger gravity will be. (Any way it makes more sense than bending space and dark matter!)
Spirals with golden ratio expansion are made for a reason which is the spin of their core and effects of this spin on the space around that core, like tornadoes!





Now time gravity is following the same rules:
Usually master, doji and pinbar candles are the core of time gravity fields, they absorb the price behind them and push it away after them in a fibo expansion form. Which will be seen as time waves. And the number of candles in one wave is like the spin speed of planets and it is expanding in 1.618 ratio.
If I say more accurate, each 2 time waves make a new wave which is equal to the sum of 2 last waves or last waves length cross 1.618 golden ratio. The result will not be the same always but in both case you will have an obvious point for the end or beginning of next waves!
Thats in case price is going away from that time gravity field, after big waves price is going toward the core of gravity and its new wave size is equal to the minus of two last waves, or we can measure the length (counting candles) of last wave and divide it to the golden ratio 1.618.
Beside Fibonacci time spiral waves there are cycles, which I will write more about them in the next posts.
Now look at the pics below and check the beginning and the end of each wave and how the sum of two waves make a new one (numbers represent candles and sunday data is not included):

2-Most common Levels in Time Waves:
Although the Fibonacci sequence are practical for time zones but finding their second point is a big problem and worse than that there is a big space between each 2 lines which is the main reason why this tool is not popular among traders. Now I have my own sequence of numbers which I picked them after lots of testing and experiencing them. If you have observed trends you will see that most of them are in 7 candles and some of them in 11. Any way these levels are the most common in my experience. 7 candles in a wave is like the spin speed of planets that will cause their gravity spread in space and time in spiral shape.
The levels are: (7 11 18 29 47 76 122 195 311 498 )
Till 76 we sum every number with the number before that. But after 76 we dont sum these numbers because of some deviation caused by getting far from the center of gravity we just will multiply them to 1.6 and the result is the numbers above.as you saw before there is a cycle in the market too, (55) is the most common.
In this picture you see a massive gravity center dividing to small gravity centers and the end of that wave is the marked yellow line, pay attention to the levels and how they made top and bottoms, all of yellow lines are the 55 cycle.



To use these levels go to the Fibo time zones properties in the fibo levels tab and change them to these numbers:
Level: 0 - 1 - 1.58 - 2.58 - 4.15 - 6.72 - 7.86 - 10.86 - 17.44 - 27.872 Description: 0 - 7 - 11 - 18 - 29 - 47 - 76 - 122 - 195

Remember our first point for FB time zones is start or the end of the trend but second point is always 7 candle after that. Even if that 7th candle was not a significant candle for the end of trend.
(These levels are showing the distance from the first candle because they happen sooner and more possible of changing direction of trend, but you can change them in your favor to show the distance after each other, meaning 11 candle after first 7 candle and 18 candle after 11 and so on)
After setting your fibo time zones like above your chart will be like pictures below after using it on chart.
You should see time levels like horizontal SR zones and only the reaction of price to them makes them a valid game changer. And you should at least consider 1 candle before and after that time level to figure out the price action to that time level. If there was a reversal or continuation pattern thats a strong pattern to trade, if nothing happened you should ignore that level.
The benefit of using Fibonacci time zones is that you will know when to check your chart and wont have to sit in front of chart after each candle.
Pay attention to the candles that time levels are on them and what they look like. Think how you would trade them or what was your trading system signal on those lines?









Elliot waves traders, always expect 5 trending wavesin an obvious form, something that will not happen most of the time and it will disappoint them.
But if we set fibo time zones with our settings on the chart we will see that waves are always there between periods of time, sometimes in a trending form and sometimes in a range form.
If we combine Elliot waves and Time dynamics we will have more successful trades, whatever happens just because we are expecting it to happen.

3-Locating core of a Time Gravity field on the chart:
Usually the first or the second candle before the start and after the end of any trend is core of a time wave, where you should put the first point of Fibo time zones on that. There are some exceptions that the 3rd candle might be the core. To make sure of that there are some ways:
3.1- the first specification of Gravity cores is that they are mostly in master, doji or pinbar candles form just remember most of the times, not always. And as you saw in the pictures above most of times they are the same as those that we use for S/R lines.

3.2- Use FB time zones in reverse to check the past. it means you put the first point of FB time zones on your selected candle and put the second one 7 candle before that. Now check the lines are they on obvious top and bottom candles or not? Are the lines on master, doji or pinbar candles? If not you should try candles beside the first one until you find the correct one.



3.3- Now after checking the past, put the second point on the 7 candle after your selected first candle and if any of 7,11 & 18 levels were on the right point you can trust the rest of the lines.
But remember the further price goes there will be deviation and the lines will be less accurate so you have to find another time core.

3.4- we can use Fibo time zones on the cycles too with equal accuracy. To do this we just should find the cycle size of each Time wave, like the first post pictures. And put Fibo time zones on the cycle candle, (cycle candles are not necessarily master, doji or pinbar candles). Most common cycles are 55 & 47 but market is changing any moment and the cycles are changing too, so sometimes we should find the correct cycle manually. Next 2 posts are about cycles.

4- What is up is down, What is left is right.
This post is the explanation of what we are doing in the next post and the logic behind it.
It is really hard to explain plus my weak English it will be more difficult to understandJ. So if you want only something on your chart to work with, you can skip it to the next post.
If you look at a chart you will see a 2 dimensional flat page. But it is actually a 4 dimensional space that is being shown in 2 dimension, that’s simple because it is containing time and space information together and we know space is 3 dimensional, but it doesn’t matter because charts are showing space and time movements together and for understanding higher dimensions we don’t need to draw 4 dimensional charts like Einstein did.
Now look at these pictures in 55 cycles and their close candles are connected to each other:
(Screen shots are in date order)







You probobly have noticed the resemblance of lines in the first two pics and second 2 pics. It is like they were in front of a mirror. first ones are in opposite direction and second 2 pics are the same. thats what we will see more in the next post.
now I will explain the reason of these mirroring charts:
Time Cycles are like the circular orbits of planets, they are in every time frame from M1 to Monthly like a sattellite around earth, earth around sun and sun around the center of galaxy. (time cycles might change any moment), and each cycle will have its own spiral gravity again like sun and earth. (Maybe Gann was right about the effect of stars and planets on markets, because as we saw in time dynamics we have time cycles like orbits of planets and each one will have its own spiral gravity field!)
We think its our choices and emotions that moves market but as you saw above market shows more reaction to its own past than our choices. and that is the intresting thing about time cycles that as long as they haven’t changed to another cycle, they will react to their own past, like they are coming back from the way they have gone before. Like these 4 picture above, their higher cycle is 165. Now there is a way to know when they are going to react and for how long that reaction will last. If you have noticed in the 4 pics above I draw blue lines that will connect white lines. and white lines have the same angle to that blue line. look at these lines and time cycle lines again and try to imagine the chart as an accordion paper that will fold cycles.
Now look at the hand fan picture below which is like our accordion charts. a 2 dimensional creature has to go from point A to point B and then to point C. but in 3 dimensinol space we can fold the hand fan to put that creature in point C and jump over point B.




Now our charts are showing a 4 dimensional page and when we fold this chart we are simulating a 5 dimensional world. And we can see the future of price timeline because we are just folding the time side. So still we cant see the location of price in that timeline.
Those white and blue lines are showing the price after folding the chart.

Time and space are the quality of objects which will show the location, age and moving speed of objects.as Schopenhauer said, time and space are curtains on the unity of objects. so if we were 5 dimensional creatures we were able to see the past and future of lower dimensional creatures at once. That’s like traveling through time.
And Ichimoku is our time travel machin. With Ichi we will have mirror charts like pics above in one place to help us undrestand and predict starting and finishing time of trends.

Remember that It still doesn’t show the exact direction, just shows the approximate times that a trend will Start. Maybe one day we can predict every move of market.

5-Time Travel

Now we will see the effects of past of the price on the present of it with Ichimoku:
As I said before cycles are changing every some time. To find the active cycle you should change the the Kijun number with my custom time zones levels and look at the chart and see which one is making a Mirror chart. (tenkan and senko span B are always 1)
Try these levels first: (29 – 47 – 55 – 76 – 110 – 165)
You will know the right cycle when you see it. If none of them was the correct cycle, there will be two scenario:
1- The cycle is none of these numbers and you have to find it manually and insert that cycle number in Kijun. (If you don’t know how, look at 5 first pictures and pay attention to the cycles that I’ve marked)
2- There is no cycle at all and market is ranging or some fundamental event is making noise!

Change your Ichimoku settings like this picture:



And set the color of every line to none except (senkou span B)
These settings are for better understanding. For trading use (2-55-2) which will have less noise and less confusion and you can use full kumo if it suits you better.
Now change your chart to line graph and you will see that price actions are symmetrical to kumo, it is either going to the same direction or the opposite direction of its cycle. For better understanding you can put an EMA 50 on the chart so it can act as a border.
And use the crossbow to analyze each top and bottom in the line graph and senkou span B
This works on every time frame and every pair. But it is safer to be used in higher timeframes. Personally I prefer H4 and D1.

After finding the right cycle we should see that price is mirroring kumo’s patterns. That is what I call mirror charts.
Finding time patterns and those moments that trends will start is our goal here. And you should know that trends won’t always start exactly on the same candle on the kumo sometimes before and sometimes after that candle they will start. And we cannot predict direction of any trend after these moments. I personally use TDI indicator for momentum and use mirror charts just for confirmation.



After finding a mirror chart we will wait for price to get to start of a big trend in kumo and follow the trend until we get to another kumo’s changing direction moment. Generally there are 5 possible patterns in mirror charts:
1- Price will follow the same pattern as kumo is showing.
2- Price will go opposite direction of kumo’s pattern.
3- Price will cross kumo and then will follow kumo’s pattern.
4- Price will cross kumo and after a kiss will go opposite direction of kumo’s pattern.
5- Price will make no reaction to kumo’s pattern anymore which means mirroring chart is over and we have to wait for another mirror chart or find another cycle.

Take a look at pictures below, first we find cycle in the first picture (which I found 2 cycles), and the relations between cycles are in the next 2 pics see the price movements and analyze the reactions to Ichi:






Some more examples:





In the pic below I got 70 points and lost 10 (in demo). Look at it and check what your trading system signals were during those obvious reactions of price to kumo.




Well, now you know that Time Dynamics is not a trading system by itself because it is based on Timing of price. And time cycles may change at any moment so it is not wise to use it as a signal for trading, the best way to use Time Dynamics is as a confirmation system.
Find long term trends in higher time frames and ride with them in lower timeframe.
Trading is all about the price actions to S/R levels both in time and space. So whatever your trading system is mix it with Time dynamics.
You will be a better trader if you know where and when to trade.

it seems very complicated system

Yes i know thats why i didnt publish for more than a year

i don't know much but if it is useful please........ this is gann time indicator...

I think time waves more complicated from price waves. These numbers called ichimoku numbers.
9
17
26
33
42
65
76
129
172
200-257

9+17 = 26. 26+17 = 42+1. 33+9 = 42. 33×2 = 65+1. 42+33 = 76-1. 65×2 = 129+1. 129+42 = 172-1

I will study your opions. Thanks

there are many types of these sequence of numbers and all of them works some how, these numbers i am using they were just most common ones with significant effect in fibo timezones. thats why i am going to stick with them

It seems a nice Indicator but I dont trust indis, they repaint

oh then its good info to me too

Can you show us how to use practice your theory? Signals, entry, TP, SL.

to practice you just have to do the same as i did in the pictures. find cycles, and use Ichi with that cycle in this form: (2-cycle-2), draw fibo time zone with the formula that i explained and showed in the pictures. Here is my analyze on E/U, H4 for right now:




as you see in the pictures there is a 61 cycle which might not be so clear because of brexit effects. there are other cycles if you search more but i only suggest larger cycles. and about the lines only price reaction to the makes them valid.
But signals, TP and SL is not what this system is offering. just timing for trades and confirming signals of your trading system. although each one of vertical lines is a potential signal.
if you want a good and easy trading system try TMS in here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=291622

Is asking the one which opened different threads, not able to give exact entries and every Strategy without SL

Another Time plan for G/A, H4:





Only price reaction makes the vertical lines valid game changers

every screen shot till now was for teaching.Since now I will use one for each pair and Cycles, Fibo time zones and ichimoku will be shown in that picture. so it will be easier to figure out timing of trends.
Here is U/C, H4

Timing for G/U , H4:

Timing for E/J ,H4

Last night crash was just another cycle move. I personally was expecting a weekend gap not this!