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  • First Post: Jul 31, 2016 7:26am Jul 31, 2016 7:26am
  •  Decima
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There are to come strains and challenges for the banking system across Europe. Some countries will be worse off than others. Part of the due dilligence before depositing money with a broker, is to consider the solidity of the banks they are using.

Regulation is more important than ever. Specifically look into the terms and amount covered by compensation schemes.

Below are results of ECB stress tests of banks:
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  • Jul 31, 2016 1:38pm Jul 31, 2016 1:38pm
  •  yesyoucan
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As per stat Imagine Cysec regulations from Cyprus
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  • Jul 31, 2016 1:59pm Jul 31, 2016 1:59pm
  •  RoelsMajor
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Where is Australia? Owh, UK is good?! So I think both FCA and ASIC regulated brokers would fine then.
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  • Jul 31, 2016 2:05pm Jul 31, 2016 2:05pm
  •  Decima
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There has been huge concerns over the amount of "rotten" loans with the Italian banks. It is according to this survey at around 17%, that is a huge number. Still way off the two worst countries in Europe.

1 out of 2 loans are considered as bad loans with Greek and Cypriotic banks.

If the shit hit the fan, the sheer amount of possible bad loans with banks from these countries are alarming.

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As per stat Imagine Cysec regulations from Cyprus
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Well, to make it even worse, practically no regulation just worsen the picture.
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  • Jul 31, 2016 2:10pm Jul 31, 2016 2:10pm
  •  Decima
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Quoting RoelsMajor
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Where is Australia? Owh, UK is good?! So I think both FCA and ASIC regulated brokers would fine then.
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I don`t know about the Australian banks. I can only assume that their financial sector are well regulated and that is promoting responsible behaviour from it.
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  • Jul 31, 2016 10:54pm Jul 31, 2016 10:54pm
  •  yesyoucan
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As per Graphical chart Only FCA UK found okay, if considering Bank positions. I see Russia No where in chart. Russian brokers are worst . Not everyone able to trade with CFTC regulated US brokers but they're extremely safe.

anyway one may try with Seychelles regulated brokers with low capital since some of brokers covered under Investor protection scheme.

ASIC is okay for Australians only.

CYsec and other regulations are paper regulations only.

​Decima were talking about banks situation , we referred to safety with fx brokers whose capital maintained with banks of those countries.
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  • Jul 31, 2016 11:37pm Jul 31, 2016 11:37pm
  •  Noorx
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Quoting yesyoucan
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As per Graphical chart Only FCA UK found okay, if considering Bank positions. I see Russia No where in chart. Russian brokers are worst . Not everyone able to trade with CFTC regulated US brokers but they're extremely safe. anyway one may try with Seychelles regulated brokers with low capital since some of brokers covered under Investor protection scheme. ASIC is okay for Australians only. CYsec and other regulations are paper regulations only. ​Decima were talking about banks situation , we referred to safety with fx brokers whose capital...
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So, you're saying Exness is a bad broker?
 
 
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  • Aug 1, 2016 1:08am Aug 1, 2016 1:08am
  •  Decima
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Quoting yesyoucan
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As per Graphical chart Only FCA UK found okay, if considering Bank positions. I see Russia No where in chart. Russian brokers are worst . Not everyone able to trade with CFTC regulated US brokers but they're extremely safe. anyway one may try with Seychelles regulated brokers with low capital since some of brokers covered under Investor protection scheme. ASIC is okay for Australians only. CYsec and other regulations are paper regulations only. ​Decima were talking about banks situation , we referred to safety with fx brokers whose capital...
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Russia is not covered by the European Banking Authority, so they are not in the survey.

I would never put my money and trust a Seychelles regulation...

According to regulations, brokers should keep investors money separated from their company`s money. This is a security measurement clients should benefit from, to keep their money safer. In the big picture you should also be aware of the banking situation of the brokers.

If the brokers bank goes bust, you should be aware of what terms or compensation schemes you fall under. Will your deposited money be counted as a bank customer or investor? Wich rules will come into play for you accordingly.

The safest place is Norway, solid banks with govermental guarantee of deposited money of up to 2 millions NOK. Unfortunately, no retail brokerages operates from here.

The best alternative, when considering regulation and also solidity of banks are the UK. Here you get the best from both. No coincidence that this is the financial hub of Europe as wel...
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  •  Ecb
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Where is Australia? Owh, UK is good?! So I think both FCA and ASIC regulated brokers would fine then.
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Definitely no need to worry about Australian bank's exposure to European debt. Not an issue at all.
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  •  stoxos
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Greek Banks buying anything toxic from big banks (like Deutsche/Paribas) and the state (aka the people) paying the american and the european crisis those loans are not from houses of there customers.... Ahhh banking system
 
 
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{quote} Definitely no need to worry about Australian bank's exposure to European debt. Not an issue at all.
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You're correct that Australian bank exposure to Europe is negligible, and Forex brokers with segregated accounts in any of the Big 4 (such as Vantage FX at National Australia Bank) are safe.

From last year's RBA Financial Stability Review:

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International geopolitical events, such as those in Greece and Russia, have been prominent in recent months. Australian-owned banks' direct exposures to Greece and emerging Europe (including Russia) are a negligible share of their global consolidated assets (Table attached); foreign banks operating in Australia have little exposure to these countries as well. As a consequence, these events do not present a direct risk to the Australian banking system. There could be indirect effects, however, if the economic and financial challenges in Greece and...
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