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Help me Invert this EA without affecting the trading Logic

  • #1
  • First Post: Jul 24, 2016 7:04am Jul 24, 2016 7:04am
Dear, Traders / Coder

This is very promising system trust me ... Help me to INVERT the EA. instead of selling make it BUY order , if the EA put a BUY orders make it SELL

IMPORTANT !!! This is very important make sure by doing the invert trades make sure that the original trading logic does not affect the original function. The only changes is the inverting of the TRADES.

The EA has already a basket take profit. it will automatically closed all positions when the preset amount of target money is met.

Trust me ! it will work!!! Please help me guys you will never regret
note please turn off the spread filter when backtesting. TF 1 - 5 MINS CHART
if you have a question just leave a messages here

Best regards
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  • #2
  • Jul 24, 2016 7:09am Jul 24, 2016 7:09am
make it with a trade copier, is total easy, close the riginal, close the copier orders too

you can done it with the trade copier from fxblue.com
  • #3
  • Jul 24, 2016 7:24am Jul 24, 2016 7:24am
Ok, so you'd like to reverse a losing EA to make it profitable...What makes you so sure that it'll work on the opposite side? Do you have a deep understanding of how the EA works and why does it lose? It'll be a great help if you can give us a brief idea about how it works...If it makes sense, I'll do my best to reverse it for you...Regards
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  • #4
  • Jul 24, 2016 7:30am Jul 24, 2016 7:30am
Quoting ghostbiker
make it with a trade copier, is total easy, close the riginal, close the copier orders too you can done it with the trade copier from fxblue.com
@Ghostbiker

I assume @CurseOne would like to backtest it which is why reverz copying might not be suitable for him.
  • #5
  • Jul 24, 2016 7:35am Jul 24, 2016 7:35am
Quoting Inceptionist
Ok, so you'd like to reverse a losing EA to make it profitable...What makes you so sure that it'll work on the opposite side? Do you have a deep understanding of how the EA works and why does it lose? It'll be a great help if you can give us a brief idea about how it works...If it makes sense, I'll do my best to reverse it for you...Regards

ok the EA is based on grid strategy it place a trades in every 3 same candle bars.

3 bull candles it will place a SELL
3 bear candles it will place a BUY


EA Will keep placing a trades depending on the increment level. that is why you need a large amount in order to work for this kind of ea because of the large drawdown when the ea demand to place more orders in counter trend.

So if you invert the trades without affecting the trading logic you will get a positive drawdown instead of negative. The profit basket will help us to protect the profits if the desire amount of profits has been met the ea will automatically closed all the positions. RESET ...

please run a backtest run the default ... on loss value inputs .. please put 100
  • #6
  • Jul 24, 2016 7:37am Jul 24, 2016 7:37am
Quoting MasterGuru
{quote} @Ghostbiker I assume @CurseOne would like to backtest it which is why reverz copying might not be suitable for him.
Definitely!
  • #7
  • Jul 24, 2016 7:40am Jul 24, 2016 7:40am
Quoting CurseOne
{quote} ok the EA is based on grid strategy it place a trades in every 3 same candle bars. 3 bull candles it will place a SELL 3 bear candles it will place a BUY EA Will keep placing a trades depending on the increment level. that is why you need a large amount in order to work for this kind of ea because of the large drawdown when the ea demand to place more orders in counter trend. So if you invert the trades without affecting the trading logic you will get a positive drawdown instead of negative. The profit basket will help us to protect the...
Thank you for the information...Although I don't recommend reversing grid strategies, but I'll give it a go and see if it can be done while keeping the original logic intact.
Simplicity is the key to brilliance.
  • #8
  • Jul 24, 2016 7:44am Jul 24, 2016 7:44am
Quoting Inceptionist
{quote} Thank you for the information...Although I don't recommend reversing grid strategies, but I'll give it a go and see if it can be done while keeping the original logic intact.
Thanks , Maybe it sounds stupid to others. but i work to this ea many time on live and demo account but unfortunately it always ruin my account. I tried many settings and filter but it does'nt work. the only thing that this EA can survive in a long run. is a huge capital ... because it always kept a high drawdown on equity.
  • #9
  • Jul 24, 2016 7:54am Jul 24, 2016 7:54am
Quoting CurseOne
{quote} Thanks , Maybe it sounds stupid to others. but i work to this ea many time on live and demo account but unfortunately it always ruin my account. I tried many settings and filter but it does'nt work. the only thing that this EA can survive in a long run. is a huge capital ... because it always kept a high drawdown on equity.
I see your point, you'd like to reverse it so you can get profits from the big drawdown, and then trail your profits with the basket TP feature...This should work theoretically if drawdowns are consistent and large enough...Don't forget that we're dealing with a counter-trend grid, If we reversed EA trades, we're basically turning it into a break-out grid which makes us vulnerable to ranging markets...I'll study it well...Let's see what could be done.
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  • #10
  • Jul 24, 2016 7:58am Jul 24, 2016 7:58am
Quoting Inceptionist
{quote} I see your point, you'd like to reverse it so you can get profits from the big drawdown, and then trail your profits with the basket TP feature...This should work theoretically if drawdowns are consistent and large enough...Don't forget that we're dealing with a counter-trend grid, If we reversed EA trades, we're basically turning it into a break-out grid which makes us vulnerable to ranging markets...I'll study it well...Let's see what could be done.
Yes that is correct, ok i will wait sir thank you very much
  • #11
  • Jul 24, 2016 8:04am Jul 24, 2016 8:04am
This one is the example
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  • #12
  • Jul 24, 2016 8:37am Jul 24, 2016 8:37am
Use this preset .set file then run the ea in $250 usd only 5 mins tf
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  • #13
  • Jul 25, 2016 1:32am Jul 25, 2016 1:32am
Quoting CurseOne
Use this preset .set file then run the ea in $250 usd only 5 mins tf {file}

what do you want i am not getting you well. do you mean of instead of Buy from current ea version you want sell in new version and vice versa?
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  • #14
  • Jul 25, 2016 1:35am Jul 25, 2016 1:35am
Quoting mmudasir
{quote} what do you want i am not getting you well. do you mean of instead of Buy from current ea version you want sell in new version and vice versa?
Yes sir ... Just invert the trades from buy make it sell from sell make it buy
  • #15
  • Jul 25, 2016 2:42am Jul 25, 2016 2:42am
Quoting CurseOne
Dear, Traders / Coder This is very promising system trust me ... Help me to INVERT the EA. instead of selling make it BUY order , if the EA put a BUY orders make it SELL IMPORTANT !!! This is very important make sure by doing the invert trades make sure that the original trading logic does not affect the original function. The only changes is the inverting of the TRADES. The EA has already a basket take profit. it will automatically closed all positions when the preset amount of target money is met. Trust me ! it will work!!! Please help me guys...
Here you go,
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and the result of a backtest,
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  • #16
  • Jul 25, 2016 4:28am Jul 25, 2016 4:28am
its not properly working bro!

You make it buy and sell at the same time. ... so the floating positions is not changing ... what i want is make it only invert trades. without changing the original trading logic
  • #17
  • Jul 25, 2016 6:30am Jul 25, 2016 6:30am
Dear CurseOne,
Here from mine. please try. thank for sharing this code.
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  • #18
  • Jul 25, 2016 7:35am Jul 25, 2016 7:35am
Quoting nariya
Dear CurseOne, Here from mine. please try. thank for sharing this code. {file} {image}

Hey bro why it always sell? ... Can you explain your modification? anyway here is my result

Bro, please maintain the original trading logic while inverted the trades. In your version the EA always placing a selling positions. also i found that it used the same logic ... i donno what modification you did. please re-write the code.
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  • #19
  • Jul 25, 2016 9:02am Jul 25, 2016 9:02am
Only inverting the kind of trade will not do the thing. The SL and TP is computed from the average open price. Therefor it will be likely that your inverted trades will be closed at other prices as the original ones.

The problem with the grids is the averaging when the progression is in drawdown, but you can't invert it just with switch the order. Imagine this when your original progression would be closed in profit you can start a situation where your inverted positions collection a hughe DD.

If you want to inverted the whole logic then you must also invert the trademanagement, so the losses are cut very small and you must open and scale-in the winning positions.
  • #20
  • Jul 25, 2016 2:17pm Jul 25, 2016 2:17pm
Quoting CurseOne
{quote} ok the EA is based on grid strategy it place a trades in every 3 same candle bars. 3 bull candles it will place a SELL 3 bear candles it will place a BUY EA Will keep placing a trades depending on the increment level. that is why you need a large amount in order to work for this kind of ea because of the large drawdown when the ea demand to place more orders in counter trend. So if you invert the trades without affecting the trading logic you will get a positive drawdown instead of negative. The profit basket will help us to protect the...
==> "So if you invert the trades without affecting the trading logic you will get a positive drawdown instead of negative. "

Nope.
Garbage in, Garbage out = negative drawdown
You want to reverse, therefore you get Garbage out, Garbage in = negative drawdown
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