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  • #4,001
  • Jul 22, 2016 8:53am Jul 22, 2016 8:53am
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Looks like many viewers are too shy to post charts.
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  • #4,002
  • Jul 22, 2016 8:54am Jul 22, 2016 8:54am
Quoting TooSlow
benwies, Juergenwe, cardm3n, solorik, Bungy999, Invisible, voyager2, gastonbrmex, isuru003, AlexDu, keen246, kleybenny Need more people to post charts.
Hi TooSlow and everbody,
I've been lurking this thread since a couple of weeks. I love the concept.
I'm in a stage of my trading career where I have more philosophical questions than actual trading ones. I've spent some 3 years learning price action, but my conclusion so far is that pretending to apply logic and pattern recognition to a phenomena on which we have so little information (and highly manipulated), and hence is mostly random for us (retail traders), makes no sense to become consistently profitable.
So, I've been thinking that there must be a way to explode the randomness of the market with a simple methodical way. Then, somehow I found this thread and it hit me like a punch. A simple approach with a simple edge. Brilliant!

I'm reading the first hundred pages of the thread so I don't start making stupid question. I hate that pervasive attitude on these threads of being spoon-fed.
Thanks to MichaelG for those nice graphical explanations. I plan to start working on my simulator to speed up the learning curve. When I think I can post live trades, I'll join this great thread.

Have a great weekend everybody.
  • #4,003
  • Jul 22, 2016 9:10am Jul 22, 2016 9:10am
Quoting keen246
{quote} Hi TooSlow and everbody, I've been lurking this thread since a couple of weeks. I love the concept. I'm in a stage of my trading career where I have more philosophical questions than actual trading ones. I've spent some 3 years learning price action, but my conclusion so far is that pretending to apply logic and pattern recognition to a phenomena on which we have so little information (and highly manipulated), and hence is mostly random for us (retail traders), makes no sense to become consistently profitable. So, I've been thinking that...
Welcome keen246.
There are no stupid questions.
There may be questions that have been asked and answered.

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  • Jul 22, 2016 9:44am Jul 22, 2016 9:44am
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  • #4,005
  • Jul 22, 2016 9:45am Jul 22, 2016 9:45am
Have not the indicator since not using mt4
This was what happened in cable today (black charts because I will need my eyes later in my life )

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1. h1 highest open
2. m15 chart highest open (not drawn) 3265
3. on m5 price went above 3265 and stuck there before news.

went short 3283
did not place the sell stop becuase
a- news would have filled me lower and I don't like when it happens
b- had a good entry with stop @be+1,4 so no matter increasing.

The very same situation happened yesterday in cable at same levels.

If anything, this strategy gives very good view of market behavior
I find it simple... but maybe a novice trader will face some problems.

I btw prefer trading 1 instrument and only that. I need to see the charts running on all timeframes so h1 m15 m5 (and daily + weekly of course)
Having only the m5 creates me confusion.
BUt that is just me!
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #4,006
  • Jul 22, 2016 9:47am Jul 22, 2016 9:47am
forgot....

trade execution here
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  • #4,007
  • Jul 22, 2016 9:53am Jul 22, 2016 9:53am
So, I see I have to learn a lot. I made a few trades today, but also many losses. Here are my trades:

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Comments are really welcome. :-)
  • #4,008
  • Jul 22, 2016 10:25am Jul 22, 2016 10:25am
Quoting kleybenny
So, I see I have to learn a lot. I made a few trades today, but also many losses. Here are my trades: {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} Comments are really welcome. :-)

I can speak only about GBP today:

you were buying a strong bearish move due to strong fundamental reasons (very disappointing services pmi).

other days things could be different and at the level you bought price could give some 10-15 or even 20-25 pips.

but not today!
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  • #4,009
  • Jul 22, 2016 10:31am Jul 22, 2016 10:31am
I agree with BBKing
Today I took 2 trades pointed out by tooSlow, AUDUSD and EURJPY. Both losses. I see others that would have been losses too.
I think the market enviroment today was not in favor of this strategy.
Maybe TooSlow could give some advice about that. It seems you just have to stay away from strong trending markets.
  • #4,010
  • Jul 22, 2016 10:33am Jul 22, 2016 10:33am
Quoting TooSlow
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I didn't have much time today, I am now looking to sell USDCAD and buy AUDUSD
  • #4,011
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:05am Jul 22, 2016 11:05am
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  • #4,012
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:07am Jul 22, 2016 11:07am
Quoting kleybenny
So, I see I have to learn a lot. I made a few trades today, but also many losses. Here are my trades: {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} Comments are really welcome. :-)
BIG MISTAKE #1 is trading more than ONE PAIR during your learning period.
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  • #4,013
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:08am Jul 22, 2016 11:08am
Quoting gastonbrmex
I agree with BBKing Today I took 2 trades pointed out by tooSlow, AUDUSD and EURJPY. Both losses. I see others that would have been losses too. I think the market enviroment today was not in favor of this strategy. Maybe TooSlow could give some advice about that. It seems you just have to stay away from strong trending markets.
Did you follow the rules?
Or did you bend the rules?
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  • #4,014
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:11am Jul 22, 2016 11:11am
Quoting gastonbrmex
I agree with BBKing Today I took 2 trades pointed out by tooSlow, AUDUSD and EURJPY. Both losses. I see others that would have been losses too. I think the market enviroment today was not in favor of this strategy. Maybe TooSlow could give some advice about that. It seems you just have to stay away from strong trending markets.
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Are you rushing the entry?
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  • #4,015
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:13am Jul 22, 2016 11:13am
Quoting gastonbrmex
I agree with BBKing Today I took 2 trades pointed out by tooSlow, AUDUSD and EURJPY. Both losses. I see others that would have been losses too. I think the market enviroment today was not in favor of this strategy. Maybe TooSlow could give some advice about that. It seems you just have to stay away from strong trending markets.
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Only using H1 highest/lowest open still banks pips.
Using M5, M15, H1 and H4, allows multiple chance to bank pips.
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  • #4,016
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:20am Jul 22, 2016 11:20am
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Is it obvious?
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  • #4,017
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:20am Jul 22, 2016 11:20am
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Did you follow the rules? Or did you bend the rules?

Hi TooSlow
I followed the chance for entry at about 16.40 (your broker time) for AUDUSD you posted.
At that time Low of Day was 0.74596 and Lowest H1 Open was 0.74685

At 16.40 a candle opened 0.74657 at interest zone, and went up, throug Lowest H1 Open, so I entered the trade.
Then, it only went up for 3 more pips, so I did not move my SL.
And then it falls beyond LOD, reaching my SL for a loss of about 10 pips.

Please, can you tell me if I followed the rules ok?
As I understand, I waited for a candle to open on interest zone, and made the buy at exactly the Lowest H1 Open.
It did not reach a 5 pip + 1, so there was no chance of moving SL.

Am I ok?

Thanks a lot!
  • #4,018
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:23am Jul 22, 2016 11:23am
Quoting gastonbrmex
I agree with BBKing Today I took 2 trades pointed out by tooSlow, AUDUSD and EURJPY. Both losses. I see others that would have been losses too. I think the market enviroment today was not in favor of this strategy. Maybe TooSlow could give some advice about that. It seems you just have to stay away from strong trending markets.
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Using the H1 chart period can help you to wait.
Smart traders would not buy when the H1 candle is red.
Nor sell when H1 candle is green.
Higher chart period, less entry chances.
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  • #4,019
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:32am Jul 22, 2016 11:32am
Quoting gastonbrmex
{quote} Hi TooSlow I followed the chance for entry at about 16.40 (your broker time) for AUDUSD you posted. At that time Low of Day was 0.74596 and Lowest H1 Open was 0.74685 At 16.40 a candle opened 0.74657 at interest zone, and went up, throug Lowest H1 Open, so I entered the trade. Then, it only went up for 3 more pips, so I did not move my SL. And then it falls beyond LOD, reaching my SL for a loss of about 10 pips. Please, can you tell me if I followed the rules ok? As I understand, I waited for a candle to open on interest zone, and made the...
This is the chart of that trade.
The vertical line was the entry.
I thought it was according to rules. was it?

Thanks a lot for your advice!
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  • #4,020
  • Jul 22, 2016 11:34am Jul 22, 2016 11:34am
Quoting gastonbrmex
{quote} This is the chart of that trade. The vertical line was the entry. I thought it was according to rules. was it? Thanks a lot for your advice! {image}
Do not be afraid or ashamed of banking 1 pip.
No reason to let a winner slip through your fingers.
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