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  • #861
  • Jul 5, 2016 12:56am Jul 5, 2016 12:56am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello MadMojoss Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this pair. If i may please, here is what i see best wishes{image}{image}
Hi AKT, thank you!
Pls look the chart below, I have highlighted two zones, always AUDCAD weekly, you haven't consider the zone n1 as fresh but you have chose the level n2.
Both levels has a candle with a wick inside the zone.

My question is: why the zone n 2 is not considered tested? How deep is the penetration of the wick is essential for the decision? Does we have any rules?

Thank you
Mauro

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  • #862
  • Jul 5, 2016 3:03am Jul 5, 2016 3:03am
Quoting MadMojosss
{quote} Hi AKT, thank you! Pls look the chart below, I have highlighted two zones, always AUDCAD weekly, you haven't consider the zone n1 as fresh but you have chose the level n2. Both levels has a candle with a wick inside the zone. My question is: why the zone n 2 is not considered tested? How deep is the penetration of the wick is essential for the decision? Does we have any rules? Thank you Mauro {image}
Hello MadMojoss, good question.

I suppose it comes from years of doing this

Zone 2 is fresh, zone 1 is not.

The penetration into zone 1 is obvious. For zone 2 there is hardly any.

Think of it in terms of piles of orders. Clearly the pile in zone 1 has been eaten into. We can't say the same for zone 2.

Understand that i am not saying there may not be a bounce at zone 1. What i am saying is going by my rules, i would not use it as a FRESH curve zone.
I would be aware of it of course, but not as a FRESH curve zone.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #863
  • Jul 5, 2016 6:52am Jul 5, 2016 6:52am
Hello, nice end of my short on usdcad, tp hitted tonight.
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  • #864
  • Jul 5, 2016 6:57am Jul 5, 2016 6:57am
AUDNZD - nice breakout
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  • #865
  • Jul 5, 2016 8:25am Jul 5, 2016 8:25am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello MadMojoss, good question. I suppose it comes from years of doing this Zone 2 is fresh, zone 1 is not. The penetration into zone 1 is obvious. For zone 2 there is hardly any. Think of it in terms of piles of orders. Clearly the pile in zone 1 has been eaten into. We can't say the same for zone 2. Understand that i am not saying there may not be a bounce at zone 1. What i am saying is going by my rules, i would not use it as a FRESH curve zone. I would be aware of it of course, but not as a FRESH curve zone. best wishes
Ok AKT, Thank you for this explanation!

Cheers,
Mauro
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  • #866
  • Jul 5, 2016 10:02am Jul 5, 2016 10:02am
Hello everyone.

Crude oil swing trade.

Impossible for the retail trader?

you decide.

best wishes
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  • #867
  • Jul 5, 2016 10:37am Jul 5, 2016 10:37am
​Akt - been meaning to ask. What are those arrows on your charts? Thanks
  • #868
  • Jul 5, 2016 10:41am Jul 5, 2016 10:41am
Quoting pakeha
​Akt - been meaning to ask. What are those arrows on your charts? Thanks
Hello Pakeha
The arrows are on the candles entered and exited at.


best wishes
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  • #869
  • Jul 5, 2016 4:11pm Jul 5, 2016 4:11pm
Hello everyone

GBPUSD Short today.

best wishes
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  • #870
  • Edited 4:34am Jul 6, 2016 4:23am | Edited 4:34am
Quoting MadMojosss
{quote} Hi AKT, thank you! Pls look the chart below, I have highlighted two zones, always AUDCAD weekly, you haven't consider the zone n1 as fresh but you have chose the level n2. Both levels has a candle with a wick inside the zone. My question is: why the zone n 2 is not considered tested? How deep is the penetration of the wick is essential for the decision? Does we have any rules? Thank you Mauro {image}
Im no AKT however I have been down this path in the past. The space in the zone where price has touched than left, represents possible unfilled orders. The width of zone 2 has much more potential for these orders as price has not penetrated However its not just unfilled orders we rely on its new orders after the zone has formed that will be placed by black box and manual trading, iceberg order techneques (disguising large orders) and front running (why price often turns just before the zone), but the unfilled conponent adds some odds thats why the less it retraces into the level the better. Some SAD traders will continue to consider it close to fresh if its a shallow retrace, because the nested SAD levels within the zone will still have pools of liquidity

this is a crude basic shematic of what I drew a while ago to remind me of where the candle stops printing presents possible unfilled orders. EDIT: SORRY seems AKT has answered your post, my bad
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  • #871
  • Jul 6, 2016 4:34am Jul 6, 2016 4:34am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. Crude oil swing trade. Impossible for the retail trader? you decide. best wishes{image}
Hi Akt,

Excellent trade ! Was curious as to why you exited where you did though ?
  • #872
  • Jul 6, 2016 5:33am Jul 6, 2016 5:33am
Hello tripr.

Exit was based on rules I have, including at the area to the left of my exit, an area price rallied from

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #873
  • Jul 6, 2016 11:16am Jul 6, 2016 11:16am
Quoting Akt
Hello tripr. Exit was based on rules I have, including at the area to the left of my exit, an area price rallied from Best wishes
It al makes sense dre is a demand zone dre though not a fresh one.
  • #874
  • Jul 7, 2016 12:46am Jul 7, 2016 12:46am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone GBPUSD Short today. best wishes{image}

Now thats what Im talking about, nice trade Akt, albeit Id still consider that a large timeframe ...lol
  • #875
  • Jul 7, 2016 3:35am Jul 7, 2016 3:35am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. Crude oil swing trade. Impossible for the retail trader? you decide. best wishes{image}
hey Akt, good one on that crude trade, I was wondering why did you choose to short it? It looked like a 2nd or 3rd retest of a supply.
  • #876
  • Jul 7, 2016 8:54am Jul 7, 2016 8:54am
Quoting forexguru221
{quote} hey Akt, good one on that crude trade, I was wondering why did you choose to short it? It looked like a 2nd or 3rd retest of a supply.
Hello Forexguru221. good to meet you

i shorted it because a new supply zone was created. Yes it was around similar levels to previous zones but it was new, fresh and short-able

best wishes
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  • #877
  • Jul 7, 2016 9:20am Jul 7, 2016 9:20am
Hello everyone.
Crude today.
I did not take this trade, wasn't paying attention
but i know S.A.D traders would be all over this.

best wishes
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  • #878
  • Edited 11:04am Jul 7, 2016 10:21am | Edited 11:04am
Hello everyone. Here is a trade i did take this evening

The S&P500

For the day trader. Price is high on the curve. Longs are lower probability
Went into the market looking for shorts.
Opportunity presented itself and the rest is history.
It is possible. Retail can do it
Hang in there, don't give up, never give up!.

best wishes
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  • #879
  • Jul 7, 2016 10:57am Jul 7, 2016 10:57am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. Crude today. I did not take this trade, wasn't paying attention but i know S.A.D traders would be all over this. best wishes{image}
I took the Crude short but missed the S&P 500 short. But we may get another chance on the S&P later on.
  • #880
  • Jul 7, 2016 11:01am Jul 7, 2016 11:01am
Quoting tripr
{quote} I took the Crude short but missed the S&P 500 short. But we may get another chance on the S&P later on.

Nice one tripr. Rock it!!

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
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