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  • Jul 1, 2016 10:39am Jul 1, 2016 10:39am
  •  madscalp
  • Joined Jan 2008 | Status: French Trader | 895 Posts
No problem I understand
It's just to give permanently the situation of each pair compared to USDJPY.
 
 
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  • Jul 1, 2016 11:24am Jul 1, 2016 11:24am
  •  nozzer
  • | Joined Dec 2014 | Status: Member | 457 Posts
​I agree with madscalp,any coders out there willing to take the job on please? :-)
 
 
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  • Jul 1, 2016 12:20pm Jul 1, 2016 12:20pm
  •  piphunter7
  • | Joined Jun 2016 | Status: Member | 4 Posts
Currently forward testing eurusd + usdjpy --> eurjpy on ecn demo account.
No positions were opened the last 4 hours (since I started it). Trends were at least once in favor of EA.
Anyone experiencing the same? Interesting strategy!
 
 
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  • Jul 1, 2016 1:20pm Jul 1, 2016 1:20pm
  •  nozzer
  • | Joined Dec 2014 | Status: Member | 457 Posts
​I got the same results ,piphunter7, looks like a good strategy to me ! :]
 
 
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  • Jul 1, 2016 2:52pm Jul 1, 2016 2:52pm
  •  bluejack
  • | Joined Oct 2012 | Status: Member | 493 Posts
Quoting piphunter7
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Currently forward testing eurusd + usdjpy --> eurjpy on ecn demo account. No positions were opened the last 4 hours (since I started it). Trends were at least once in favor of EA. Anyone experiencing the same? Interesting strategy!
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do you have the 'loop back bars' set to 2?
 
 
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  • Jul 1, 2016 4:22pm Jul 1, 2016 4:22pm
  •  abokwaik
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 3,601 Posts
These are the trades taken by the EA since yesterday on EURJPY using H1 time frame for direction and running on M5 for Entry, with settings in Post # 10.

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  • Jul 1, 2016 4:25pm Jul 1, 2016 4:25pm
  •  abokwaik
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 3,601 Posts
This is an updated version (3) with fixed bugs posted by Soros (although the bug does not affect the results as it was modifying the stop with the same values).
Also I added description to inputs.

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  • Jul 1, 2016 4:33pm Jul 1, 2016 4:33pm
  •  abokwaik
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 3,601 Posts
Note that the EA is still using a very simple (naive) method of identifying major pair and UJ pair directions.
Many other options can be tested :

  1. Indicator based : RSI, CCI, HA , MA ... etc.
  2. Higher Time Frames.


I noticed through backtesting that the less number of loop back bars the better the results. This makes sense as usually USDJPY and XXXUSD are inversely correlated. So we are basically trading the divergence in this negative correlation which is translated to a short term trend in XXXJPY.

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  • Jul 1, 2016 5:14pm Jul 1, 2016 5:14pm
  •  blamshakk
  • Joined Mar 2010 | Status: Member | 2,182 Posts
abokwaik thanks for posting the bugfixed version. can i ask if you have settled on any particular times / session yet?

blam
 
 
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  • Jul 1, 2016 6:28pm Jul 1, 2016 6:28pm
  •  bluejack
  • | Joined Oct 2012 | Status: Member | 493 Posts
Quoting abokwaik
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These are the trades taken by the EA since yesterday on EURJPY using H1 time frame for direction and running on M5 for Entry, with settings in Post # 10. {image}
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got the same results... i am trying on GJ and NJ too. will update if we have something promising.. thanks a ton Khalil..
 
 
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  • Jul 2, 2016 3:15am Jul 2, 2016 3:15am
  •  madscalp
  • Joined Jan 2008 | Status: French Trader | 895 Posts
Hi abokwait
Could you explain why you use M5 for the EA ?
 
 
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  • Jul 2, 2016 3:51am Jul 2, 2016 3:51am
  •  thodie
  • Joined Oct 2012 | Status: private | 2,604 Posts
Quoting abokwaik
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Note that the EA is still using a very simple (naive) method of identifying major pair and UJ pair directions. Many other options can be tested : Indicator based : RSI, CCI, HA , MA ... etc. Higher Time Frames. I noticed through backtesting that the less number of loop back bars the better the results. This makes sense as usually USDJPY and XXXUSD are inversely correlated. So we are basically trading the divergence in this negative correlation which is translated to a short term trend in XXXJPY.
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wrote you a pm
just do it
 
 
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  • Jul 2, 2016 4:24am Jul 2, 2016 4:24am
  •  abokwaik
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 3,601 Posts
Quoting madscalp
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Hi abokwait Could you explain why you use M5 for the EA ?
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Good Question : You mean why I am setting the EA to trade H1 time frame but attach it to M5.

Well, initially it was by mistake, but then I thought it could be good to have a higher Signal TF and a lower Entry TF, where we spread the position intended for the higher TF into multiple smaller trades on the lower time frame (in case you set Max Orders > 1).

However, it is not optimized yet. I mean for example with H1/M5 combination it will enter a new trade every 5 miniutes within the current H1.
Ways to optimize the lower TF entry include:

  1. Additional Entries only if price is moving in our direction (pyramiding)
  2. Additional Entries only if price is moving against our direction (averaging)
  3. In the H1/M5 example, re-check the Signal every 5 Minutes, the signal in this case will be on the last 12 M5 bars instead of the last H1 bar, (i.e. sort of dynamic signal re-checking).

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  • Jul 2, 2016 10:28am Jul 2, 2016 10:28am
  •  nozzer
  • | Joined Dec 2014 | Status: Member | 457 Posts
​@abokwaik,whats the best xxxJPY pair to trade with?
 
 
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  • Jul 2, 2016 12:10pm Jul 2, 2016 12:10pm
  •  abokwaik
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 3,601 Posts
Quoting nozzer
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​@abokwaik,whats the best xxxJPY pair to trade with?
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GBP JPY
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  • Jul 2, 2016 5:10pm Jul 2, 2016 5:10pm
  •  thodie
  • Joined Oct 2012 | Status: private | 2,604 Posts
This is a really nice EA - i like the idea.

one thing i would test is to restrict the max. distance in pips to the daily trend EMA, an overshot is usually rejected fast.
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  • Jul 2, 2016 6:36pm Jul 2, 2016 6:36pm
  •  b_ballerz2k
  • | Joined Jan 2012 | Status: Member | 38 Posts
This is a very interesting strategy.

But I am wondering where shall we put our SL after BUY/SELL?

Is it at the price 24 periods ago?

Or just put SL at last swing high/low.
 
 
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  • Jul 2, 2016 7:22pm Jul 2, 2016 7:22pm
  •  abokwaik
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 3,601 Posts
Quoting b_ballerz2k
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This is a very interesting strategy. But I am wondering where shall we put our SL after BUY/SELL? Is it at the price 24 periods ago? Or just put SL at last swing high/low.
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The initial idea was to not use a stop loss or take profit, and close the position when signal pairs are out of sync.
However I found it better to have a stop loss and a trailing stop, and allow for trades to open in both directions when signaled, while running trades can be closed at SL or trailing, as long as SL/Trailing are relatively far enough based on the time frame used.

Having the initial SL at swing high/low is not a bad idea as long as it is far enough to allow for price noise. Also sops can be trailed by last high/low.
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  • Jul 2, 2016 7:23pm Jul 2, 2016 7:23pm
  •  abokwaik
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 3,601 Posts
Quoting thodie
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This is a really nice EA - i like the idea. one thing i would test is to restrict the max. distance in pips to the daily trend EMA, an overshot is usually rejected fast. {image} {image}
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Yes thodie, Adding a filter on the traded pair should be tested, using standard deviation maybe.
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  • Jul 2, 2016 7:25pm Jul 2, 2016 7:25pm
  •  abokwaik
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Member | 3,601 Posts
Let us think for a while : Why JPY crosses trend in a specific direction ? why they range for a while? and when do they reverse ?

This is the key to the Yen Trader system!
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