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  • #821
  • Jun 29, 2016 12:06pm Jun 29, 2016 12:06pm
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
{quote} Little update my usdcad trade: I'm a bit worry about this level on H1 chart, it seems that there are a lot of buyers.. {image}
Correct.

Objective evaluation shows that is a DZ and so an area where you will have buyers whether in the short or medium term.

The question is though, on what time frame was the trade taken? and more importantly, what was the exit strategy for the trade when it was taken?
The answers to these questions will help you decide what to do next.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #822
  • Jun 29, 2016 12:17pm Jun 29, 2016 12:17pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} hi blackhat. Please remember to add all your charts to help see your your thinking process, it helps. Great discourse. Thank you @MrPhibo. great to have you back Here are my thoughts best wishes{image}
Hi Akt,
Thank you for your reply. Sure will post my charts directly in the reply.

This trade did not worked out for me and after 60 pips I got fortunately stopped out at break even (it would have hit my initial stop as well)

Could you please explain what you mean with trend line? Is it the h/l indicator on your chart and if a level does not break this line you do not count it as supply and demand?

By the way, I use tradingview as well. Do you post all your ideas there?

All the best.


All the best
  • #823
  • Jun 29, 2016 12:21pm Jun 29, 2016 12:21pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everybody Update on S&P, different compared to yesterday. What a difference a day makes... best wishes{image}
Thanks for sharing..This might be a great shorting opportunity indeed.
  • #824
  • Jun 29, 2016 12:23pm Jun 29, 2016 12:23pm
Quoting blackhat
{quote} Hi Akt, Thank you for your reply. Sure will post my charts directly in the reply. This trade did not worked out for me and after 60 pips I got fortunately stopped out at break even (it would have hit my initial stop as well) Could you please explain what you mean with trend line? Is it the h/l indicator on your chart and if a level does not break this line you do not count it as supply and demand? By the way, I use tradingview as well. Do you post all your ideas there? All the best. All the best
Hello blackhat.

My mistake. That rend line your refer to is an old one that i should have taken off.
Doing a clean up of my charts this weekend so will sort these issues out
The h/l indicator is a trading view thing and is not part of the methodology. I leave it on my charts as a visual however it is easily manipulated to show whatever pivots anyone wants it to show, just changing the parameters does that.
As i told one of my guys, better to train your eye than use it as a way of identifying pivots. Its the same issue with most such indicators.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #825
  • Jun 30, 2016 12:04am Jun 30, 2016 12:04am
Hello everyone

Potential oil trade. A share.
No recommendations, just sharing

best wishes
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  • #826
  • Jun 30, 2016 6:45am Jun 30, 2016 6:45am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Correct. Objective evaluation shows that is a DZ and so an area where you will have buyers whether in the short or medium term. The question is though, on what time frame was the trade taken? and more importantly, what was the exit strategy for the trade when it was taken? The answers to these questions will help you decide what to do next. best wishes
I don't know if this is for me or to all of us. If you ask me, then I have all planed before I took that trade. I just post my thoughts about lower time frame situation. I took that trade on daily tf supported by H4 chart to reduce the risk - it's all about that in multi time frame trading - so I'm focused on daily. But despite that I like to observe H1 chart during the day to be up to date with market condition.
To break the rules you must first master them.
  • #827
  • Jun 30, 2016 9:25am Jun 30, 2016 9:25am
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
{quote} I don't know if this is for me or to all of us. If you ask me, then I have all planed before I took that trade. I just post my thoughts about lower time frame situation. I took that trade on daily tf supported by H4 chart to reduce the risk - it's all about that in multi time frame trading - so I'm focused on daily. But despite that I like to observe H1 chart during the day to be up to date with market condition.
Hello MrPhibo.

Thank you very much for the clarification. Much appreciated and useful.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #828
  • Jun 30, 2016 10:08am Jun 30, 2016 10:08am
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
{quote} I don't know if this is for me or to all of us. If you ask me, then I have all planed before I took that trade. I just post my thoughts about lower time frame situation. I took that trade on daily tf supported by H4 chart to reduce the risk - it's all about that in multi time frame trading - so I'm focused on daily. But despite that I like to observe H1 chart during the day to be up to date with market condition.

​Mr. Phibo, the USDCAD was a good trade. I smiled when you put up your chart because I was just about to enter that trade as well. Similar to you I trade from D1/H4 supply demand zones and enter/monitor on a lower timeframe (H1/M30). The freshness of the S/D zone is only one of the parameters that make it a good zone, but it is not a necessary requirement for me. I rely more on trend and price action. I look at W1/D1/H4 primary trend for alignment (I prefer to trade with the trend) the price action into the zone (strength of move to/into the zone), price action at the zone (the type of consolidation at the zone) and price action at/away from the zone (i.e. rejection candles). So, from a trend/price action perspective the USDCAD trade was perfect, even though the zone wasn't fresh.
  • #829
  • Jun 30, 2016 12:06pm Jun 30, 2016 12:06pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello MrPhibo. Thank you very much for the clarification. Much appreciated and useful. best wishes
No problem Akt .

Nice work, well done Supply!
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  • #830
  • Jun 30, 2016 1:36pm Jun 30, 2016 1:36pm
Hi Akt and you all.
Here is my point of view about the index with SD tecnique.
Last time I showed a market approacing an important weekly demand zone (orange in my charts). After the "touch" we had a bounce as aspected. The details are on the entry 2 hours chart. We have here a new up trend with demand zone respected and supply zone broken with a clear up trendline. Any comments are welkome!
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  • #831
  • Jun 30, 2016 1:37pm Jun 30, 2016 1:37pm
the green supply zone comes from the daily trend chart (not showed)
  • #832
  • Jun 30, 2016 2:11pm Jun 30, 2016 2:11pm
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
{quote} No problem Akt . Nice work, well done Supply! {image}
Ok Mr Phibo, this is not funny anymore.
Where is the camera you have in my house or did you hack my computer?
I am in the same trade bro.

Nice.

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #833
  • Jun 30, 2016 2:14pm Jun 30, 2016 2:14pm
Quoting autaret
Hi Akt and you all. Here is my point of view about the index with SD tecnique. Last time I showed a market approacing an important weekly demand zone (orange in my charts). After the "touch" we had a bounce as aspected. The details are on the entry 2 hours chart. We have here a new up trend with demand zone respected and supply zone broken with a clear up trendline. Any comments are welkome! {image} {image}
Hello autaret.
Thank you for sharing your idea.

I like it. Some would call it a bit aggressive but i definitely see why and how i would take the same trade.

Thank you

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #834
  • Jun 30, 2016 2:19pm Jun 30, 2016 2:19pm
Hello everyone.
USDCAD trade today,
trade now being managed
Please remember, no brag, just showing what is possible.

best wishes
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  • #835
  • Jul 1, 2016 6:18am Jul 1, 2016 6:18am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Ok Mr Phibo, this is not funny anymore. Where is the camera you have in my house or did you hack my computer? I am in the same trade bro. Nice. Best wishes
...crap... You caught me red-handed. But I can't tell you where I put the camera.
Just kidding . Nice trade anyway
To break the rules you must first master them.
  • #836
  • Jul 1, 2016 8:17am Jul 1, 2016 8:17am
Quoting Mr.PhiBo
{quote} ...crap... You caught me red-handed. But I can't tell you where I put the camera. Just kidding . Nice trade anyway
Hello Mr.Phibo.
Yes it was a decent trade.
Leveraging it currently.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #837
  • Jul 1, 2016 8:43am Jul 1, 2016 8:43am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone Potential oil trade. A share. No recommendations, just sharing best wishes{image}
Hi Akt,
Was wondering if you took a trade here ? Looks like a short to me.
  • #838
  • Jul 1, 2016 10:57am Jul 1, 2016 10:57am
Quoting tripr
{quote} Hi Akt, Was wondering if you took a trade here ? Looks like a short to me.
Hello tripr.

Yes I did. Trade complete

best wishes

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  • #839
  • Jul 1, 2016 11:42am Jul 1, 2016 11:42am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello tripr. Yes I did. Trade complete best wishes {image}
Very nice !
  • #840
  • Jul 2, 2016 10:59am Jul 2, 2016 10:59am
​Hello everyone, I shared this post on FF recently and I thought I would put it up here as a lesson and reminder to S.A.D traders reading and participating in the thread.

Please allow me to share a summary of a part of the S&D methodology that I have noticed is often alluded to and mentioned but not actually really described in our posts.


Please note this information is obtained from my years of study and effort, as well as knowledge gleaned from other supply demand traders I have had the
opportunity to learn from, notably alfonso Moreno, the Sams (seiden and evans). I did not create this, I just learnt it and then practiced till I mastered it.

Step I - (for this part there's only this step so don't worry)
Zone Identification: always start with current price - look down from current price and left for buy zones and look up and left for sell zones
What are you looking for?

You are looking for a large move in price, (a move up for DZs and a move down for SZs).
Once u find this large move, trace it down to its origin and you will find the "zone" where the large move started. Don't look for the origin first, it will mislead you. Always look for the imbalances first then trace them back to where they started from.

Scenario: So, you have done your top-down analysis, come up with a trade idea and think you've found a zone to trade off of. Check the quality of your proposed entry zone

Zone quality assessment - to assess the quality of a supply or demand zone.

1. Evidence of imbalance: a gap away from a level is the biggest indication of an imbalance(not so common in FX), followed by LRCs (large range candles) away from the zone
2. Extent of imbalance: A minimum move of 2x the size of the zone is required. This is indicative of the initial profit potential. The more the distance travelled away from the zone before returning the better
3.Zone location: Referencing whatever chart is your higher timeframe, look at where you proposed entry zone is located relative to the HTF zones. For buying, is the DZ low on the curve? - then it is higher probability. Is it close to or in the HTF opposing zone? if yes then it is lower probability. Same thought process applies to a SZ
4. How much trading occurred in the zone: A recommendation Is this should be no more than 6 periods. Remember, with the supply-demand strategy, less time is good
5. How many times has price retraced to the level? this determines "freshness" as you often hear. Look to the right of your zone for this. The fewer times the better. A fresh zone is one that price has not returned to since the zone was formed.

These are the basic ones I use and find to be enough. There are others you can add depending on the market, such as the time the zone was created, correlations etc. Do not try to use too many, it can become counter-productive.

I hope this helps.


Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
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