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  • #4,121
  • Jun 28, 2016 4:36pm Jun 28, 2016 4:36pm
Quoting Cheezy
Oh, sorry, on any screenshots from you look how EA trade. You can anyone tell me on what page is download link with last version for this strategy? I like try, i am total looser.
Here's a link to the indicators and template.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...26#post8848926

As for version of strategy, there really isn't one. My trading style keeps evolving around the same principles.

I prefer scalping the majors using higher timeframe supply and demand levels and lower time-frame PA (or engulfing setups).

Have a read through this thread, also Kennyz's Romancing the Price and PA by Julexo.

Finally, you got to stop the self negative talk and start thinking positively.
  • #4,122
  • Jun 29, 2016 2:16am Jun 29, 2016 2:16am
Good things can happen if you get up early.
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  • #4,123
  • Jun 29, 2016 12:13pm Jun 29, 2016 12:13pm
Quoting C-12
Good things can happen if you get up early. {image}

Nice trades! How often are your losing trades? Do you just not lost them or are there so few? I'd be interested in seeing them just to study and use for learning!
  • #4,124
  • Jun 29, 2016 1:19pm Jun 29, 2016 1:19pm
Quoting jack411
{quote} Nice trades! How often are your losing trades? Do you just not lost them or are there so few? I'd be interested in seeing them just to study and use for learning!
Yeah I get loads of losses. Usually when the market is seriously choppy and higher TF is unclear. Playing M5 engulfs can be pretty frustrating at certain times but the losses are always small. Win rate is still around 50% but mostly getting 2:1 to 3:1 on the winning side and the losses are cut fast.

I don't know how to improve this win rate.. It's been bugging me for years tbh... I'd need to run a much wider stop to produce lossless trading which then adds more risk of blowing up account on a bad day.

The best trades tend to be really clean and obvious and everything lines up perfectly on all the time frames.
  • #4,125
  • Jun 29, 2016 1:22pm Jun 29, 2016 1:22pm
Here's a nice setup on UCAD that just showed up, everyting lined up on all TF's
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  • #4,126
  • Jun 29, 2016 1:24pm Jun 29, 2016 1:24pm
And another on AU.. Notice how the engulfs lined up on M30 / M15 / M5 in an uptrend on H4.

Unfortunately I was back in work today so couldn't trade the session.

The good thing is these setups can often appear late on so can still pick up something.
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  • #4,127
  • Edited 1:59pm Jun 29, 2016 1:45pm | Edited 1:59pm
Anyone have any experience with these new USB powered monitors?

https://www.asus.com/uk/Monitors/MB169BPlus/

I'd to replace my 3 x 27's with 6 small monitors (like those) so I can see all the action in one compact single field of view. Large monitors are such a waste of chart space imo.

Most of my frustrations are when I've missed something, maybe on DX or when a golden setup appears on another pair that I've had to minimise.

The key with this style of trading is you have to have eagle eyes open for the setups.
  • #4,128
  • Jun 29, 2016 10:06pm Jun 29, 2016 10:06pm
Quoting C-12
{quote} Yeah I get loads of losses. Usually when the market is seriously choppy and higher TF is unclear. Playing M5 engulfs can be pretty frustrating at certain times but the losses are always small. Win rate is still around 50% but mostly getting 2:1 to 3:1 on the winning side and the losses are cut fast. I don't know how to improve this win rate.. It's been bugging me for years tbh... I'd need to run a much wider stop to produce lossless trading which then adds more risk of blowing up account on a bad day. The best trades tend to be really clean...
Dear C-12,

I have paid attention to your post since sometime. Very enlighting comments and serious remarks in some posts, thanks for sharing!

What I would suggest, if I may, is that if you could post some of your lost trades, maybe we can discuss on those set-ups and increase your winning rate without a subtage of your RR ratio. IMHO, some losses are inevitable (we have to admit that), as these losing trades are part of the game of probability, just as the operating cost of any business. But some of them could be avoided by recognizing something in a specific set-up one could have missed before (experience accumulation bonus). Sometimes one's own retro-inspection is not as sufficient as brain-storming with a team. Anyway, it is up to you if you would post some losing trades or not.

hope your trading performance improves with the rythme you want!

yours,
shunfengcn
The candle pattern is the signal, the inevitability behind it is the key.
  • #4,129
  • Jun 30, 2016 3:08am Jun 30, 2016 3:08am
Quoting shunfeng
{quote} Dear C-12, I have paid attention to your post since sometime. Very enlighting comments and serious remarks in some posts, thanks for sharing! What I would suggest, if I may, is that if you could post some of your lost trades, maybe we can discuss on those set-ups and increase your winning rate without a subtage of your RR ratio. IMHO, some losses are inevitable (we have to admit that), as these losing trades are part of the game of probability, just as the operating cost of any business. But some of them could be avoided by recognizing something...
Hi Shunfeng, there's really not much to see. Most (if not all) of my losers come from trades like these.

Sometimes I take an engulf that's premature or just not that solid but often with the right direction and then price comes back and takes me out. It can be frustrating if you get a string of these but I'm really ok with small losses.

At the end of the day I'd like to have the account size and confidence to trade without a stop. My experience with this is I can do really well but then have a crazy day where things don't work out and I end up taking a massive loss on the account...

One thing I can guarantee, I wont ever blow an account again with this strategy. But if people want to see this losses then happily show some of them.
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  • #4,130
  • Jun 30, 2016 3:18am Jun 30, 2016 3:18am
Although there are days where the losses are virtually zero but that involves getting into the 'zone'.

Usually one or two days per week I can really sync with the market and every trade is golden. I don't know why this is and I wish I knew the magic formula to getting into this mindset.

I think it's like a golfer who can produce a round of 63 and then the next day hit an 89 with the same course and conditions. It's a strange thing.
  • #4,131
  • Jun 30, 2016 3:21am Jun 30, 2016 3:21am
Hi guys!
Really like the system on levels of supply and demand .
C- 12 thanks for this topic and detailed reports . My screen trading!
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  • #4,132
  • Jun 30, 2016 3:25am Jun 30, 2016 3:25am
One thing I'm absolutely certain of now. I would do better with 6 x small monitors. It's really something that's bugging me now. I'm going to research this weekend what I need to do to get this setup sorted.

I have DX on the third monitor but it's not in my immediate field of view so I occasionally miss some important zone or PA.

Also I can't have all the pairs and time-frames on display so I often ditch H4 in favour of the lower TF charts. This occasionally gets me into trouble.

Yes I know they say a bad workman blames his tools....
  • #4,133
  • Jun 30, 2016 5:57am Jun 30, 2016 5:57am
Quoting vas-avdeev
Hi guys! Really like the system on levels of supply and demand . C- 12 thanks for this topic and detailed reports . My screen trading! {image}
Looks like you nailed a good one.
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  • #4,134
  • Jun 30, 2016 6:56am Jun 30, 2016 6:56am
Some more scalps. Turned a but earlier than expected but PA came in strong.

Better get some work done before I get caught.
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  • #4,135
  • Jun 30, 2016 7:30am Jun 30, 2016 7:30am
C-12 say what settings you use in the EA - ivoe?

My fresh trade ..
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  • #4,136
  • Jun 30, 2016 7:42am Jun 30, 2016 7:42am
Quoting vas-avdeev
C-12 say what settings you use in the EA - ivoe? My fresh trade .. {image}
Haha nice, you watching my screens?

Erm, I've not used the LVOE for years, probably 2013.. I guess you're still reading the first pages.
  • #4,137
  • Jun 30, 2016 7:58am Jun 30, 2016 7:58am
Quoting C-12
{quote} Haha nice, you watching my screens? Erm, I've not used the LVOE for years, probably 2013.. I guess you're still reading the first pages.
no no no
You and I have seen the same entrance to the market.
I really want to learn to trade like you, and I will learn.
You manually translate the transaction to breakeven?
Thanks for the answer!
  • #4,138
  • Jun 30, 2016 11:42am Jun 30, 2016 11:42am
Not sure what happened to the MT4 terminal with that gap....
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  • #4,139
  • Jun 30, 2016 11:59am Jun 30, 2016 11:59am
Quoting vas-avdeev
{quote} no no no You and I have seen the same entrance to the market. I really want to learn to trade like you, and I will learn. You manually translate the transaction to breakeven? Thanks for the answer!
Well, many have tried this style of trading and many have quit along the way or have hopped to the next get rich quick trading 'system'. Freestyle trading S&D and PA is not easy and it will take a lot of blood and guts.

You have to ask yourself if you really want to dedicate thousands upon thousands of hours to this as this is what it takes.

As for the BE, I just drag the lines manually. MT4 has improved a lot since back in the old days.
  • #4,140
  • Jun 30, 2016 12:14pm Jun 30, 2016 12:14pm
Quoting C-12
Not sure what happened to the MT4 terminal with that gap.... {image}
Maybe a hole in the quotations.


And about the study I have been watching and trying ever since when Ace Gazette was not commercial. But constantly selling the advisers that other strategies, but now has decided to come to grips with the levels of supply and demand.

Fresh trade EURUSD ..
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