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  • #61
  • Aug 26, 2006 2:06am Aug 26, 2006 2:06am
Quoting StockKJay
Dof, if news trading died two years ago volume indicators wouldn't show 100/1 or greater trading differentials during economic announcements. So in my mind the remark is useless. Because it isn't accurate! News trading CHANGED two years ago, not "died"!?. The innovative people seek new ways of trading, the rest whine about not being able to get free money anymore. With the right broker as Money has said, you can still straddle and make "free" money. What would have happened during Bernankes speech today if you put a +10 -10 straddle on?? Probably a gain of 10-15 pips. Free money? Or is there another term for that?

Phil says he has GFT and Gain Capital. Both those brokers treat limits and stops during news pathetic. You can't straddle and you cant trade with a news service with them. They will requote you and do what it takes to survive and make money. I don't have a problem with that. Phil isn't a news trader though.. so why is he even trying to influence peoples thoughts on news? I just dont want someone who isn't a news trader and uses average mm retail outlets lecturing me about news trading dying.

Phil's whole statement is not useless... I quoted that single line. The post was awesome until he tapped into news trading. Of course it is dead if you use retail mm trash.

I admire your friend, I have too many problems as it is with just my two basketballs.
It's in my opinion that the brokers didn't anticipate news traders to learn the game so well, atleast not so soon, so. Illegally, they make legal adjustments to prevent the news traders from profiting, however.

If they were regulated, legally.

They'd be caught when two, or three annoucements, speechs being my most blatant example, because no brokers can shady a speech to quickly, as it can rally at anytime, it doesn't matter at what point the comments sends off the launch to buy, or sell. Banks loves speechs, so i'd love to see a non regulated commodity broker interfer with uneven leveraged accounts during a news rally.

I myself haven't trade the EUR/USD for quite abit, too many whipsaws lately, the rumors have been killing the interest and demand to move it past my expectations, i am waiting for things to settle back into 'ranging trends'. Rightnow, the EUR/USD isnot my favor pair and brokers could also use this now more than ever since the whipssaw are too fast to be recorded manully, i've been burned twice on this after a winning period of 5 - 7 months. FED Hikes can kiss my ***.

There's always next month, i agree with you, there's no reason to bite on news trading. Phil seems like a broker, of atleast. A potential one to say the least. Say it isn't so?
  • #62
  • Aug 26, 2006 6:24am Aug 26, 2006 6:24am
With all respect Klaka, I think Phil is pretty well known amongst those who have traded FOREX for some time... You should Google his name and then you will also have done the research and know who he is and what he does...

Thanks Scott


Quoting Klaka
It's in my opinion that the brokers didn't anticipate news traders to learn the game so well, atleast not so soon, so. Illegally, they make legal adjustments to prevent the news traders from profiting, however.

If they were regulated, legally.

They'd be caught when two, or three annoucements, speechs being my most blatant example, because no brokers can shady a speech to quickly, as it can rally at anytime, it doesn't matter at what point the comments sends off the launch to buy, or sell. Banks loves speechs, so i'd love to see a non regulated commodity broker interfer with uneven leveraged accounts during a news rally.

I myself haven't trade the EUR/USD for quite abit, too many whipsaws lately, the rumors have been killing the interest and demand to move it past my expectations, i am waiting for things to settle back into 'ranging trends'. Rightnow, the EUR/USD isnot my favor pair and brokers could also use this now more than ever since the whipssaw are too fast to be recorded manully, i've been burned twice on this after a winning period of 5 - 7 months. FED Hikes can kiss my ***.

There's always next month, i agree with you, there's no reason to bite on news trading. Phil seems like a broker, of atleast. A potential one to say the least. Say it isn't so?
  • #63
  • Edited Mar 24, 2007 12:29pm Aug 26, 2006 7:52am | Edited Mar 24, 2007 12:29pm
Quoting Darkstar
You mean like a liquidity provider on the NYSE who has the authority to halt trading during a news release until they can determine what price they want to transact at? I'm sure that would make you real happy...

Hello Darkstar,
This is a valid concern, but not a realistic one in Forex. Those trading freezes in equities and commodities are done for very specific reason of liquidity and stability. Those markets can move much much much larger percentages of their total value in a very short period of time and could therefore be catastrophic to their respective products. It would take some huge unimagineable global event in the world to do that in Forex.

A wise friend of mine once said, "try learning the ropes before you start changing the size of the ring". Instead of trying to convince everyone that the forex is evil, corrupt, a casino, and should be regulated into oblivion, maybe you should take some time and do some research. That way we can discuss things that actually have a snowballs chance in hell of actually making us some money.
This, Darkstar, I can't appreciate. I can tell you are a sharp and dedicated guy. I have no problem with you or your passionate argument. However, this is a tactic. It is an old trick and an obvious one. It is also one that several people in this thread have resorted to. DISCREDIT YOUR OPPONENT. It takes a fairly stupid person to not see that tactic for what it is and it makes yourself and the people who us it look like angry bullies. I don't think you are an angry bully, I think maybe you did not think that through before you said it. Am I wrong???

TO ALL

There are many ways a discussion can go. We all benefit from a conversation filled with details, facts and constructive suggestions. If it turns into an angry pissing contest, the conversation quickly becomes pointless. I think this is a hugely relevant topic for Forex. This is a great opportunity to share facts and knowledge for the greater good. Let's not squander it.
Profit is where readiness meets Opportunity
  • #64
  • Aug 26, 2006 8:18am Aug 26, 2006 8:18am
Quoting Klaka
No offense to Phil, the person who started this thread, but.
Your entire posted sounded just like the sales pitchs, of that of a broker.
No offense to Phil, but let me go ahead and offend you.....I guess that makes it Ok to speak ill of someone if you put a disclainer in like that.

I am not a broker. As a matter of fact I never mentioned my broker until someone asked much later in this thread. Maybe you didn't get the memo but if you want to trade Forex you are going to need a broker. You should research your broker and you should read the fine print.

If you don't like your broker and he is "ripping you off" then register a complaint with the NFA. I would guess less than 1% of everyone who has ever griped about their broker has even been to the NFA website where, by they way, you can file your case electronically.

Thanks for the sharp reminder of why I rarely participate in a public forum. As soon as someone doesn't like what they hear it has to get personal and by page 5 no one can remember what the original subject was. I thought about my original post for over a week before i wrote it. I simply beleived that it might offer a different perspective based on my years of trading.

I was not aware that if I have matured to the point where I accept that I have to do business with a broker and focus on trading that I would be labeled some kind of "broker lover".
  • #65
  • Aug 26, 2006 8:39am Aug 26, 2006 8:39am
Quoting StockKJay
Dof, if news trading died two years ago volume indicators wouldn't show 100/1 or greater trading differentials during economic announcements. So in my mind the remark is useless. Because it isn't accurate! News trading CHANGED two years ago, not "died"!?. The innovative people seek new ways of trading, the rest whine about not being able to get free money anymore. With the right broker as Money has said, you can still straddle and make "free" money. What would have happened during Bernankes speech today if you put a +10 -10 straddle on?? Probably a gain of 10-15 pips. Free money? Or is there another term for that?
StockKJay,

Your point is well taken but first a clarification: Since there is no central marketplace the only volume your broker can report is that of its clients. Even then, some brokers do not report volume, they report RFQs (Request For Quotes) which are obviously not trades, just curious onlookers who want to see what prices are offered. Your broker (as do most brokers) deal with relatively small accounts of people who are attracted to the myth of "free money". Of course volume goes up! If it helps, perhaps I should have said the myth of news trading is alive and well and replaced it by saying "making a profit and trading full time off of new related events is dead."

I actually don't know of a single broker who promotes the idea that you can effectively trade the news. I do know a lot of websites who would like to teach you to trade and introduce you to brokers and propagate the dream of "free money" on news days.

Maybe your10/10 straddle did work. What did you risk in widened spreads, your stops, and potential slippage to make 10 pips. Was it worth it? Is it worth working hard all week to make 100 pips and then watching them evaporate on Friday in 60 seconds? I know someone who recently fell for the 10/10 straddle and lost 71 pips before he could click his mouse. That is a far more common story than making 10 pips.

It is true that I don't trade the news. I don't even look at the econ calender..ever! But I do have systems and on occasion and news driven move will trigger a signal. I have no problem getting filled where and when I want. This isn't a "my broker is better than your broker or my dad can beat up your dad" discussion. It's about what course of action you should take if you don't like your broker.
  • #66
  • Aug 26, 2006 8:40am Aug 26, 2006 8:40am
Quoting philmcgrew
No offense to Phil, but let me go ahead and offend you.....I guess that makes it Ok to speak ill of someone if you put a disclainer in like that.

I am not a broker. As a matter of fact I never mentioned my broker until someone asked much later in this thread. Maybe you didn't get the memo but if you want to trade Forex you are going to need a broker. You should research your broker and you should read the fine print.

If you don't like your broker and he is "ripping you off" then register a complaint with the NFA. I would guess less than 1% of everyone who has ever griped about their broker has even been to the NFA website where, by they way, you can file your case electronically.

Thanks for the sharp reminder of why I rarely participate in a public forum. As soon as someone doesn't like what they hear it has to get personal and by page 5 no one can remember what the original subject was. I thought about my original post for over a week before i wrote it. I simply beleived that it might offer a different perspective based on my years of trading.

I was not aware that if I have matured to the point where I accept that I have to do business with a broker and focus on trading that I would be labeled some kind of "broker lover".
Hello Phil,

I do appreciate your initial post. It for me showed me a window to the perspective of your section of the Forex consumer/trader base. It is valuable to all of us.
The thing that turned this post ugly for you was that in some of your posts and others posts too, it some how got personal. People were berated and their credibility questioned merely because they didn't agree.
Even with all that, I am glad you started this post. It stirs people up and makes them think. You even spawned a new idea for me that became a new thread and maybe even a new business opportunity.
I say welcome back and keep posting ! Just maybe consider your approach to sharing your perspective. Not because I say so, but because it might help you enjoy this whole experience more and allow us to continue to share your experience and perspective.
Profit is where readiness meets Opportunity
  • #67
  • Aug 26, 2006 8:43am Aug 26, 2006 8:43am
FXO,

Point taken. Thank you for that.

Phil
  • #68
  • Aug 26, 2006 9:25am Aug 26, 2006 9:25am
Quoting StockKJay
Dof, if news trading died two years ago volume indicators wouldn't show 100/1 or greater trading differentials during economic announcements. So in my mind the remark is useless. Because it isn't accurate! News trading CHANGED two years ago, not "died"!?. The innovative people seek new ways of trading, the rest whine about not being able to get free money anymore. With the right broker as Money has said, you can still straddle and make "free" money. What would have happened during Bernankes speech today if you put a +10 -10 straddle on?? Probably a gain of 10-15 pips. Free money? Or is there another term for that?

Phil says he has GFT and Gain Capital. Both those brokers treat limits and stops during news pathetic. You can't straddle and you cant trade with a news service with them. They will requote you and do what it takes to survive and make money. I don't have a problem with that. Phil isn't a news trader though.. so why is he even trying to influence peoples thoughts on news? I just dont want someone who isn't a news trader and uses average mm retail outlets lecturing me about news trading dying.

Phil's whole statement is not useless... I quoted that single line. The post was awesome until he tapped into news trading. Of course it is dead if you use retail mm trash.

I admire your friend, I have too many problems as it is with just my two basketballs.
Useless means something else to me, i'm a foreing guy, so maybe i don't understand english as you do. It might be wrong in your opinon, it's your right, i don't want to say that he was right or wrong, but as long people (including you) start talking... it's not useless, it makes you talk about it, it has a use.
Try hard, think fast, die young
  • #69
  • Aug 26, 2006 11:25am Aug 26, 2006 11:25am
Everywhere I turn I see and hear people complaining about their broker one way or another. Then I come across this thread which started off seemingly good in response to these moaners. I think with the original comment of 'news trading died 2 years ago' the actual meaning of this was that brokers wouldnt let their traders get away with murder and actually forced them to assume the risk of trading this extreme volatility. And if people were interested enough to read their traders agreement before signing they would also realize they are signing all the rights away in the blink of an eye. If you are smart enough and i guess even slightly spiteful enough you could use this small world of the internet and form a group of traders who all use the same broker, create your own logging and tracking software, file every little situation away in duplicate and finally after months on end of tracking every little problem, take that to the NFA and file your complaint. Then of course since you have spent all this time complaining and trying to trap them, you have missed out on hundreds, if not thousands, of trades so paying for the battle could prove problematic.

Now for the funny facts. Of course to the folks who are here to trade when the market is in a ranging trend it might not come across so amusing but what can I say?? For every complaint about news and data trades by the trader, the brokers are complaining almost an equal amount. Every good broker is getting crushed on these outrageous swings by trying to provide good customer service and filling orders. Now here is the rub for them. Once you hit a certain point of 'doing well' or we could just come out and say 'taking advantange of a technological glitch in the system' your broker will put you on a manual execution. Guess what, you are being punished for cheating their system. For every short eur/usd a trader takes a their broker, their broker is then long the pair. Their next step is to go out to offset that order but here is problem #1mil for them, they cant get fills fast enough because the market moves beyond their reach to offset said positions without realizing a loss. Granted a solid broker will have positions in house to cover these trades at a specific price average, but that only takes care of so much.

As for the brokers widening their spreads pre news or even into the news, this is to protect both them and their clients actually but traders dont want to see both sides. If you are a true news trader, you know what you want to do based on specific numbers well before the news even hits. You know what your levels of support and resistance are. You know where you want your orders to be and go based on how the figures come out. With all that said, this all requires thought and work. However, it would seem so much easier if you were trading with one broker and looking at charts on someone else who is faster to react on pricing and then just take advantage of the lag between the two. Guess what!? You are NOT a trader but instead a flea market merchant looking to sell a $.10 tshirt from China as a $100 designer shirt for $25. Of course to you, its all pink in the middle so who cares.

Then lets hit on that stop hunting bs. You will never get a broker on stop hunting for a couple simple facts. One being that if you are long and trading say 1 standard with your stop 10 pips below current market and your broker has a larger client with say 75 standards on short, they just opened their risk exposure up 75 to 1. Thats bad for business. Granted we can all agree that they are fairly certain that the larger account is not looking to exit their larger position at that price since there are no limit orders in place nor is that client even logged in to their account. But we cant prove all that as retail traders.
The second half is that when you signed your handy-dandy traders agreement, you said that your broker makes the market. So when you see a few pips to either side from one broker to the next, that is their making of the market. You might have instances where their order system actually hits a chain reaction of sorts where they may have had clients with stops too tight that start going off. When this happens they make the trades cause hell if they didnt, you would complain about not getting filled on the opposite direction.

Regulation of the market is a whole other issue. How many of you can pass a NASD Series 3 exam tomorrow? Well you want regulation to cover your butt, you better be prepared to be tested and licensed if you want to trade. Sure large brokers are good and nice and they put their NFA numbers on their site so you can just click and it takes you straight to their history of being a registerd member with the NFA. But the problem is, people see this and think everything is ok and dont bother to click. Some people on here who talk about certain brokers being registered dont even realize that their brokers posting on their own site about NFA registration numbers proved with a simple click that their registration had been in default for over a year without resolution. Thanks for playing!!

And as you search these message boards and find complaints about different brokers, realize that much like any other forms of customer service, the larger the broker, the more complaints they are likely to have. The reason you dont get all the good info is because roughly 94% of people who have a bad experience will tell everyone where as less than I think 20% who have a good one will tell anyone. Its simple logic really, do your own DD on your broker choices and trade with a company you can trust to be there next year. Check out the assets of each broker and see who is who in grand scheme of things. I will give you a simple breakdown of a few 'top' brokers. These figures are as of June 30th 2006

Broker Adjusted Net Capital
CMS $7.7mil
FXCM $22mil
FXSOL $6.4mil
Gain/forex.com $12mil
HotSpotfx $2.3mil <---that must just be that one 1k/pip guy
Interbankfx $4.4mil

As you see these figures, keep in mind that each company has to maintain a minimum maintenance margin amount to cover all usable margin of its clients at all times for all positions. The reason I pointed out HotSpot is that their Net Capital Requirement is only about $526,000. So when you choose your broker, do it wisely and dont bother complaining because you cant make money with them or you pay this spread or that spread. If spreads are a problem with you, then you should NOT be trying to trade this market. If you dont go into a volatile time of trading with a full plan in place including what the most or least you are will to buy or sell at then you are going in blind. Learn how the market makers work behind the scenes and how your broker works with them and without them. After some real research you will see that every complaint you have ever had is full of crap more than likely. If Asia only accounts for maybe 9% of overall liquidity and volatility in the market, you can bet your broker without fixed spreads will widen them to keep from making a market because there is nothing for them to gain which in turn means nothing for you to gain. Large banks do the same thing all day long on every pair. Watch big guys like DB, AIG, CITI and so on and see where they are on stuff throughout each day. They widen their spreads on every pair anytime they dont want to make a market, does that make anyone think less of them? No simple fact is they have no reason to be in there without a client/business needing to perform transactions.
  • #70
  • Aug 26, 2006 12:00pm Aug 26, 2006 12:00pm
toolong,

Thank you for an amazing post! I completely agree with 100% of everything you said and was trying to make many of the same points. It's almost as if you can simply go on to the internet and learn about the various brokers out there.

Thanks for weighing in on this topic on your first post!

Phil
  • #71
  • Aug 26, 2006 12:43pm Aug 26, 2006 12:43pm
Thanks Phil, makes me feel very welcomed I must say. Of course we are probably a minority on this one so I should go ahead and plan on being 'attacked' in some form for the reality in which I post on. The whole concept of being successful in this market is quite simple. Kind of think of it like being that little sucker fish that latches on to the whale to move through the ocean. I am more than willing to be the sucker fish and let the whale do all the work. The banks dont factor in someones 3 minis and where their stops or limits are, its pointless. Every retail broker works on the same principles as a casino. Volume equals profit. If most traders dont make it in this market, then the broker is obviously making money. And if you are one of the smart ones who is making a living trading this market and you have a good broker, they take great care of you. They extend offers to various options to help you continue your success such as a Currenex feed or whatever the case may be. They do things like this because it reduces their liability, meaning the profitable traders, and they still profit from them. And as I constantly remind myself, it takes all kinds to 'make' a market.
  • #72
  • Aug 26, 2006 1:20pm Aug 26, 2006 1:20pm
i think its a great post, well anyone serious about trading forex than you should take great effort and time to learn and be profitable in this game.

SpotFX is not so easy as to a jackpot system where you simply insert you bet and pull the trigger and expect to be profitable.

Its a skill that requires a consistant learning atitude,experience trading the market,managing your losses and indept knowledge on how the market really works.

likewise it would be the same for any trading market, i.e stocks,futures,equities.

kyle
  • #73
  • Aug 26, 2006 1:20pm Aug 26, 2006 1:20pm
Yes, Thanks for putting your statement so eloquently. I also agree with you. Often my trades run through news times and during those times I know what to expect... There really is no free lunch. One cannot expect an inefficiency such as was the case in news trading to last for ever. One cannot expect a company to lose money and stay in business either. I am of the camp that says it is better to adapt for the future then to moan about the past.

This post was truly a great piece of writing.

Scott


Quoting toolong
Thanks Phil, makes me feel very welcomed I must say. Of course we are probably a minority on this one so I should go ahead and plan on being 'attacked' in some form for the reality in which I post on. The whole concept of being successful in this market is quite simple. Kind of think of it like being that little sucker fish that latches on to the whale to move through the ocean. I am more than willing to be the sucker fish and let the whale do all the work. The banks dont factor in someones 3 minis and where their stops or limits are, its pointless. Every retail broker works on the same principles as a casino. Volume equals profit. If most traders dont make it in this market, then the broker is obviously making money. And if you are one of the smart ones who is making a living trading this market and you have a good broker, they take great care of you. They extend offers to various options to help you continue your success such as a Currenex feed or whatever the case may be. They do things like this because it reduces their liability, meaning the profitable traders, and they still profit from them. And as I constantly remind myself, it takes all kinds to 'make' a market.
  • #74
  • Aug 26, 2006 1:24pm Aug 26, 2006 1:24pm
Quoting philmcgrew

Maybe your10/10 straddle did work. What did you risk in widened spreads, your stops, and potential slippage to make 10 pips. Was it worth it? Is it worth working hard all week to make 100 pips and then watching them evaporate on Friday in 60 seconds? I know someone who recently fell for the 10/10 straddle and lost 71 pips before he could click his mouse. That is a far more common story than making 10 pips.
I wont argue with you. Straddles are very dangerous. I would not promote using straddles daily to anyone. Because you are right... you will get hurt with them. No matter who your broker is.
The market is my nation. Traders, my family. Hello, brothers and sisters!
  • #75
  • Aug 26, 2006 1:28pm Aug 26, 2006 1:28pm
Quoting smjones

One cannot expect a company to lose money and stay in business either. I am of the camp that says it is better to adapt for the future then to moan about the past.
You are very right. Retail brokers have a lot of trouble with news. For a while Oanda was giving money away. They were good about limits and they honored your stops. They, like the other retail outlets GFT, FXCM etc are all adapting to the markets. A trader has to adjust, not whine.
The market is my nation. Traders, my family. Hello, brothers and sisters!
  • #76
  • Aug 26, 2006 2:59pm Aug 26, 2006 2:59pm
Quoting smjones
With all respect Klaka, I think Phil is pretty well known amongst those who have traded FOREX for some time... You should Google his name and then you will also have done the research and know who he is and what he does...

Thanks Scott
Oh, you didn't know?

There are tons of forums led by memebers considered verterans who really are brokers. It's called regaining client intell per trust. I never said he was a broker, i said he was rantling, as if he were one. Wither he is, or isn't is besides the point here. The point is, if he has a right to say news trading is dead & strictly supports technicals, ANY real trader well tell you.


Technicals don't move anything in Forex, predictable markets, like S&P and so on are good for technicals, there's far too much random liquidty in it to move into stable patterns. But, if that's his method and this is what he emplores, all empowerment to him.

But, don't try to sit here and preach me about what works & what doesn't.
I don't have to sit here a compliant about how all brokers are shady, regulation dis via. I really don't care, but. Don't sit here and try to mask of the facts that they are shady, regulated, or not. Business is business.

Infact, i know three brokers in two other different markets, you'd be surprised as to what exactly is considered "normal and shady", most of it ranging far beyond any complaint that you have seen, thus far. When concerning Electronic Exchanges.

Infact, i'm really seriously thinking about becoming one, but why give away and edge. You all are right, nomore whinning!!! Happy trading to you, goodluck!
  • #77
  • Aug 26, 2006 3:10pm Aug 26, 2006 3:10pm
Quoting Klaka
There are tons of forums led by memebers considered verterans who really are brokers. It's called regaining client intell per trust. I never said he was a broker, i said he was rantling, as if he were one. Wither he is, or isn't is besides the point here. The point is, if he has a right to say news trading is dead & strictly supports technicals, ANY real trader well tell you.


Technicals don't move anything in Forex, predictable markets, like S&P and so on are good for technicals, there's far too much random liquidty in it to move into stable patterns. But, if that's his method and this is what he emplores, all empowerment to him.

But, don't try to sit here and preach me about what works & what doesn't.
I don't have to sit here a compliant about how all brokers are shady, regulation dis via. I really don't care, but. Don't sit here and try to mask of the facts that they are shady, regulated, or not. Business is business.

Infact, i know three brokers in two other different markets, you'd be surprised as to what exactly is considered "normal and shady", most of it ranging far beyond any complaint that you have seen, thus far. When concerning Electronic Exchanges.

Infact, i'm really seriously thinking about becoming one, but why give away and edge. You all are right, nomore whinning!!! Happy trading to you, goodluck!
I am not a broker but I do have to use one so I got over the my broker is evil phase. I did go on a rant and I fairly warned you up front in my first post.

I have more rants in the future:

1. Brokers don't suck, people who whine about them do - DONE
2. Fib numbers don't work
3. Pivots don't work
4. EMAs do not act as support.

I may add more in the future so start thinking of your insults now.

Phil
  • #78
  • Aug 26, 2006 3:14pm Aug 26, 2006 3:14pm
Quoting Darkstar
I'm gonna write up a market microstructure article tonight that explains in detail why spreads get widened and orders get slipped. I think it would help the misguided noobs understand things better.

If its good maybe my buddy Merlin can sticky it somewhere.
It... is... DONE!

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...ead.php?t=7484
  • #79
  • Aug 26, 2006 5:09pm Aug 26, 2006 5:09pm
Quoting toolong

HotSpotfx $2.3mil <---that must just be that one 1k/pip guy
Nice post TooLong,

HotSpotFXi and HotSpotFX are different. One is retail, one is institution. He has an account with their insitution HSFXI.
The market is my nation. Traders, my family. Hello, brothers and sisters!
  • #80
  • Aug 26, 2006 6:30pm Aug 26, 2006 6:30pm
I have to say that my main gripe with my broker is...
i click buy euros at 1.2 and the order goes through as 1.250.

There should be a button to click that if they cannot fill you at the price you had your order in at, or tried to click the buy button at... Then do NOT fill my order.
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