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  • #601
  • Jun 8, 2016 1:30pm Jun 8, 2016 1:30pm
Quoting kunzerk
Hi Guys, Gold arrives to H4 Supply: {image} Would you take? Chris
I do not trade gold, but if I was to take that trade, I would wait until it passes half of that white long previous candle than I would enter and place stop loss and take profit. But that would be my trade, do not take this as an advice or anything, just saying I would've take it like that.
  • #602
  • Jun 8, 2016 1:51pm Jun 8, 2016 1:51pm
Hi Akt,

Was wondering if you were still in the Oil trade or did you get stopped out ?
  • #603
  • Jun 8, 2016 2:21pm Jun 8, 2016 2:21pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Finax. If i may please, some of the levels you show are totally accurate as supply and demand levels. some don't fulfill the rules of drawing SAD zones. In addition, the trend line needs to be updated I hope this pictorial helps best wishes{image}
Hey Akt,
Thanks very much for the pointers, appreciate it.
  • #604
  • Jun 8, 2016 3:21pm Jun 8, 2016 3:21pm
Quoting tripr
Hi Akt, Was wondering if you were still in the Oil trade or did you get stopped out ?
Hello tripr,

apologies, i was sure i had updated on that trade and gold
Both were stop outs.

I got admonished by my boss (the decision matrix) for the gold trade but got good reviews for the oil trade.
She is a tough boss, that gertrude
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #605
  • Jun 8, 2016 5:09pm Jun 8, 2016 5:09pm
Hey guys,

Heres one that worked out. Scalped the GBPNZD gap down earlier. Was to trade a confirmation entry but scrolled quite aways back and found that nice fresh doji on the 15m and didn't hesitate once it hit it and just snap traded it. Hopefully I can find more opportunities like these.


Thanks.
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  • #606
  • Jun 9, 2016 1:29am Jun 9, 2016 1:29am
Quoting goathed1
Hey guys, Heres one that worked out. Scalped the GBPNZD gap down earlier. Was to trade a confirmation entry but scrolled quite aways back and found that nice fresh doji on the 15m and didn't hesitate once it hit it and just snap traded it. Hopefully I can find more opportunities like these. Thanks. {image} {image} {image}
Breakfast is on you goathed.

Nice!!

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #607
  • Jun 9, 2016 1:37am Jun 9, 2016 1:37am
Thank you sir. Credit goes to you mate!
  • #608
  • Jun 9, 2016 6:47am Jun 9, 2016 6:47am
SP500 H4 momentum line break.. and a Supply formed on the H1.

looking for short, but the road is sticky down there

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take care
  • #609
  • Jun 9, 2016 8:05am Jun 9, 2016 8:05am
Hi there, i have a question about GBP-NZD. Today I have take a loss, look the chart below.

Monthly: price down and now inside to a Supply level (A) than remove TL. It's ontop another Supply level (B).

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Daily: I find a possible good level and I try to find a good position in H4 for place a pending buy order.

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H4: this is the chart where I place my order but price has hit the stop.

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What do u think about that? It was a good opportunity or I have forgot something?
I anticipated too much time?

Thanks

Mauro!
Limit your loss, save partial gain and let the profit run!
  • #610
  • Jun 9, 2016 8:59am Jun 9, 2016 8:59am
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House, Please look at this chart and comment.
Thank you.
  • #611
  • Jun 9, 2016 9:22am Jun 9, 2016 9:22am
Quoting Lade
{image} House, Please look at this chart and comment. Thank you.
Hi Lade!

In my opinion, your level isn't a Demand level, look my chart below
But we are inside a Demand Weekly level, so the better odds are for long

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Cheers!
Mauro
Limit your loss, save partial gain and let the profit run!
  • #612
  • Jun 9, 2016 11:19am Jun 9, 2016 11:19am
Quoting MadMojosss
Hi there, i have a question about GBP-NZD. Today I have take a loss, look the chart below. Monthly: price down and now inside to a Supply level (A) than remove TL. It's ontop another Supply level (B). {image} Daily: I find a possible good level and I try to find a good position in H4 for place a pending buy order. {image} H4: this is the chart where I place my order but price has hit the stop. {image} What do u think about that? It was a good opportunity or I have forgot something? I anticipated too much time? Thanks Mauro!
Hello MadMojosss.

Just to explain, A & B are Demand zones, not supply. Probably just a slip of the hand when you were typing I'm sure.

Here is an explanation that may help in shedding some light on why the DZ struggled.
Please keep the pair on your watch list, interesting times ahead for it from what I see.

best wishes
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  • #613
  • Jun 9, 2016 11:27am Jun 9, 2016 11:27am
Quoting MadMojosss
{quote} Hi Lade! In my opinion, your level isn't a Demand level, look my chart below But we are inside a Demand Weekly level, so the better odds are for long {image}. Cheers! Mauro
@ LADE & MadMojoss

on the GBPCHF discussion

best wishes
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Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #614
  • Jun 9, 2016 11:36am Jun 9, 2016 11:36am
Good Evening Traders

For anyone new to trading and/or this thread, active participants or otherwise, I just wanted to report a couple of losing trades today after a decent week of winners.

1) Do I care... Yes, I dont like losing, However Im still easily up for the week.
2) Do I have to accept losing trades.... Yes, wining all the time is not possible because whatever style you choose (this or any other) there is no Grail, the market is random in the sense you cannot possibly know what may happen next (because YOU are not in control of it). It is an unsolvable Puzzle.
3) I combat losing trades by accepting this fact and Implementing an Equation that is equal to a good Risk Reward Strategy combined with a complementary win rate, ie my Winners are bigger than my Losers and my strategy has a good PROBABILITY of succeeding and produces a win rate that works with my risk reward requirement.

Its a Balance, Its a Numbers Game... Good Luck !
  • #615
  • Jun 9, 2016 12:39pm Jun 9, 2016 12:39pm
Quoting 4XAlien
Good Evening Traders For anyone new to trading and/or this thread, active participants or otherwise, I just wanted to report a couple of losing trades today after a decent week of winners. 1) Do I care... Yes, I dont like losing, However Im still easily up for the week. 2) Do I have to accept losing trades.... Yes, wining all the time is not possible because whatever style you choose (this or any other) there is no Grail, the market is random in the sense you cannot possibly know what may happen next (because YOU are not in control of it). It is...
Hello 4xAlien

Well said, well said.

thank you.

the best psychological management is risk management as they say.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #616
  • Jun 9, 2016 12:51pm Jun 9, 2016 12:51pm
I am enjoying this thread. I am 63 and a former stockbroker (retired). In those years I have observed all manner of human behavior when it comes to investing/attempting to invest. If I may, I would like to impart some old time thoughts. (1) No one can be your friend except yourself and no one can be your enemy except yourself. What does this mean? If you are your best friend and your worst enemy at the same time what makes the difference? The answer is how you speak to those 2 people. For example, most people examine their trade results as winners and losers. This is a sure way to beat yourself psychologically. If you are in this Forex Market as a game no problem, however if you are in this Forex Market as a business then start acting as such. As a business you do not treat your transactions as winners and/or losers (that is what a gambler at Las Vegas says to him/herself), however if you are professional you will simply treat them as revenue or expenses. Stop beating yourself up with this word game drawing you down psychologically by using such negative words as loser or losses. Be a business person and just realize all/every business have expenses and your mission is simply to make your revenue greater than your expenses. (2) Reread number (1).
  • #617
  • Jun 9, 2016 1:07pm Jun 9, 2016 1:07pm
Quoting Madmax1952
I am enjoying this thread. I am 63 and a former stockbroker (retired). In those years I have observed all manner of human behavior when it comes to investing/attempting to invest. If I may, I would like to impart some old time thoughts. (1) No one can be your friend except yourself and no one can be your enemy except yourself. What does this mean? If you are your best friend and your worst enemy at the same time what makes the difference? The answer is how you speak to those 2 people. For example, most people examine their trade results as winners...

Thank you MadMax. Good lesson for me
  • #618
  • Jun 9, 2016 2:56pm Jun 9, 2016 2:56pm
Quoting Madmax1952
I am enjoying this thread. I am 63 and a former stockbroker (retired). In those years I have observed all manner of human behavior when it comes to investing/attempting to invest. If I may, I would like to impart some old time thoughts. (1) No one can be your friend except yourself and no one can be your enemy except yourself. What does this mean? If you are your best friend and your worst enemy at the same time what makes the difference? The answer is how you speak to those 2 people. For example, most people examine their trade results as winners...
Wow, Madmax.
I had something similar in my trading plan but I am changing it tonight to your words.

This is really valuable to us all.

Thank you

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #619
  • Jun 9, 2016 3:24pm Jun 9, 2016 3:24pm
Hey there ,
Do you have the price at which your buy limit was filled? I want to hone in around that price level to see what was going on at that time. Every trade is a learning process.
Thanks.
Quoting MadMojosss
Hi there, i have a question about GBP-NZD. Today I have take a loss, look the chart below. Monthly: price down and now inside to a Supply level (A) than remove TL. It's ontop another Supply level (B). {image} Daily: I find a possible good level and I try to find a good position in H4 for place a pending buy order. {image} H4: this is the chart where I place my order but price has hit the stop. {image} What do u think about that? It was a good opportunity or I have forgot something? I anticipated too much time? Thanks Mauro!
  • #620
  • Jun 9, 2016 5:58pm Jun 9, 2016 5:58pm
Quoting Denden2012
{quote} Need to update your momentum TL. {image}
Quoting Akt
{quote} hello sonigl. as denden said, the trend line on the daily needs updating. Wait for evidence the sellers on the monthly are starting to exert their influence. This will first become visible on the daily chart since trends change from the inside out. then start looking for selling opportunities. This scenario may or may not play out. This is the tough part for the trader, sitting on his/her hands. best wishes
Quoting finax
{quote} Hi Sonigl, These are my thoughts on this for what they are worth. A break of a momentum trend line signals just that - a break of current momentum. Is this a change of trend or just a pause? A trend can ONLY change direction with an engulf of an opposing SD area. So, we have reached Monthly supply, great. Have any Daily demand zones been engulfed or are they still being respected? An engulf is the clearest signal we can get that price is about to change direction. Any time frame, any pair.
Hello Denden2012, Akt, finax and others....
thanks to all of your comments, it's valuable information for me to learn and make it better to my analysis. Few days busy in the field but still focus to get some profits in brent with long position and still hold last short. I'm learning from yours here.... keep posting brothers

regards,
sonigl
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