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  • #561
  • Jun 6, 2016 1:38pm Jun 6, 2016 1:38pm
EURGBP.
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  • #562
  • Jun 6, 2016 1:42pm Jun 6, 2016 1:42pm
Quoting Denden2012
{quote} Excellent confirmation entry conom.

Thanks

PS I deleted my old post accidentally ))))
  • #563
  • Jun 6, 2016 5:16pm Jun 6, 2016 5:16pm
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  • #564
  • Jun 6, 2016 5:26pm Jun 6, 2016 5:26pm
Quoting bloodpoodle
I don't believe in supply demand.. Sure they work sometimes.. but when you get the real big moves are when zones are taken out! A Long zone breaks by a few pips.. NEW LOW! Longs Selling their longs. to get out! Break out traders getting short.... Tons of short orders in the market.. A really big player needs tons of short orders to get Long... This is when the big boys step in.... And nobody gets the ride up except them! {image}
While I do not share your sentiment on Supply Demand .... I do agree 1000%:
"A Long zone breaks by a few pips.. NEW LOW! Longs Selling their longs. to get out! Break out traders getting short.... Tons of short orders in the market.. A really big player needs tons of short orders to get Long... This is when the big boys step in"
All those orders waiting to go short. All that inventory just waiting for a willing buyer. It's a beautiful thing actually ( at least in my world )

Funny thing... you see this over and over over in the market be it, Forex, Indices, Commodities or Stocks. it all plays out the same.

Well done bloodpoodle -

TSD
  • #565
  • Jun 6, 2016 8:36pm Jun 6, 2016 8:36pm
Quoting Assafdor
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Hmm..,

Since I'm new to S&D as well, I wanna take a stab at it with my limited knowledge / understanding of it so far.

I think the supply zone is still in play because though the zone has been re-tested twice and the fact that demand still failed to breakthrough the supply zone indicates that the supply zone is still strong/ in control. In other words, there are still unfilled sell orders at the supply zone. Once all these unfilled sell orders has been filled and when demand > supply, we will see a rally that will breakthrough that supply zone and will be invalid/exhausted/violated (right word?)

I think the logic here is that despite how many times the zone has been re-tested, as long as the zone wasn't broken/taken out, it is still in control. However, one should be mindful that the more times a zone gets retested but not broken, the zones become 'weaker' each time.

Am I right? Looking forward to feedback on my analysis.
  • #566
  • Jun 6, 2016 8:48pm Jun 6, 2016 8:48pm
Quoting Assafdor
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Hello Assafdor &Welcome. Good to meet you

The reason that supply is still in control is because it is yet to be broken
it is the supply zone that is still in play, holding price from fully rallying. Price was still at that supply at the time and until that zone is removed it is considered "in control".
It may be down i.e tested a few times, but until it is broken, it is not out

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #567
  • Jun 6, 2016 8:58pm Jun 6, 2016 8:58pm
Hello everyone.

I would like to again remind all the thread participants of the ethos of this thread.

It is devoted purely to applying a set of rules to the market, trading the methodology that is supply and demand.
There are many other places on FF to debate the merits or otherwise of trading systems but this is not one of them.

I would like to kindly ask again that viewers of this thread, observers and participants, please respect rule number one and other rules for this thread as set out in the first post (which i re-posted on page 28).

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #568
  • Jun 6, 2016 8:59pm Jun 6, 2016 8:59pm
Quoting Zol
{quote} Hmm.., Since I'm new to S&D as well, I wanna take a stab at it with my limited knowledge / understanding of it so far. I think the supply zone is still in play because though the zone has been re-tested twice and the fact that demand still failed to breakthrough the supply zone indicates that the supply zone is still strong/ in control. In other words, there are still unfilled sell orders at the supply zone. Once all these unfilled sell orders has been filled and when demand > supply, we will see a rally that will breakthrough that supply...
Hello Zol

Thank you for this. You are very correct

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #569
  • Jun 7, 2016 2:10am Jun 7, 2016 2:10am
Good morning

Akt would you care to comment on the audusd Daily chart?

We are at daily supply with another daily supply just above. From a day traders perspective some pips to make....
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  • #570
  • Jun 7, 2016 3:10am Jun 7, 2016 3:10am
Miss this one by 3 pips

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i was not lucky this time
Limit your loss, save partial gain and let the profit run!
  • #571
  • Jun 7, 2016 3:52am Jun 7, 2016 3:52am
Quoting Cobra
Good morning Akt would you care to comment on the audusd Daily chart? We are at daily supply with another daily supply just above. From a day traders perspective some pips to make.... {image}
Hello Cobra

Correct. The daily chart is the day trader's biggest chart.

Price is near supply so definitely not an area to be buying into.
Looking for shorting opportunities would be considered higher probability.
They may present themselves, they may not. It would be reasonable to be on the look out for them though

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #572
  • Jun 7, 2016 5:30am Jun 7, 2016 5:30am
Hello everyone.
Here is a trade on the EUR/GBP a couple of mentoring students and I took.
Conom, i think you took this on confirmation as well correct?

Shows what is possible, nothing more.
Following a defined set of rules, applied to the markets.
Following a process with not too much emphasis on outcomes. A process is paramount.

best wishes
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  • #573
  • Jun 7, 2016 5:38am Jun 7, 2016 5:38am
Hello everyone.

The dollar index review

best wishes
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  • #574
  • Jun 7, 2016 5:58am Jun 7, 2016 5:58am
Hello everyone.

GBP/AUD, the one that got away.
I alerted friends to this on sunday night but I couldn't get to my
charts in time to place my order. Did not anticipate such a sharp move into the zone.

oh well, can't get them all. Lesson learnt. Next trade.

best wishes
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  • #575
  • Jun 7, 2016 6:39am Jun 7, 2016 6:39am
Hello everyone.

From a short term day trader's perspective, here is Gold.
This is not a recommendation to buy or sell Gold. It is posted purely for education purposes
It can fail.
It can also be successful.

Best wishes
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  • #576
  • Edited 8:23am Jun 7, 2016 8:11am | Edited 8:23am
Hi S&D Traders

Just thought I post this trade up from yesterday on GBPUSD.

Hope it helps anyone thats struggling to understand what imbalance looks like.

It was my last trade of the day, at the time I was over 33 pips up on this one and heading for 3R, ended as a small winner, mainly because I only day trade so exited when Id had enough and it was time for Dinner

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  • #577
  • Jun 7, 2016 9:01am Jun 7, 2016 9:01am
Quoting 4XAlien
Hi S&D Traders Just thought I post this trade up from yesterday on GBPUSD. Hope it helps anyone thats struggling to understand what imbalance looks like. It was my last trade of the day, at the time I was over 33 pips up on this one and heading for 3R, ended as a small winner, mainly because I only day trade so exited when Id had enough and it was time for Dinner {image}
Hello 4XAlien. Good to meet you. Welcome.
Thank you for sharing your charts on the Pound.

If i may please,
It would be helpful to me to understand the thought process in deciding to take the trades that you took on the pair, long and short.


Thank you for highlighting what imbalances look like, great examples that i am sure will help others. Much obliged

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #578
  • Jun 7, 2016 9:36am Jun 7, 2016 9:36am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello 4XAlien. Good to meet you. Welcome. Thank you for sharing your charts on the Pound. If i may please, It would be helpful to me to understand the thought process in deciding to take the trades that you took on the pair, long and short. Thank you for highlighting what imbalances look like, great examples that i am sure will help others. Much obliged best wishes
Hi Akt

I normally charge extra for this bit...lol ....just kidding !

Trade 1 Winner Short, Supply formed during the night, price rallied from London open and through news, I barely got filled, so good sign lots of supply maybe there.
Trade 2 Winner Long, Demand had formed following the London open, so for me a great opportunity to get long on prices returning to an area where institutional buying may have occurred, Time of day this area was formed was key for my decision process.
Trade 3 Loser, Short, Supply formed off my 1st Trade Short area so as NY was fairly uneventful I decided to take the trade, looked hopeful for a very short while but soon turned around and stopped me out.
Trade 4 Partial Winner, Short, Took this short off supply as price just about got there earlier for Trade 1 so considered there may have been more orders there, It wasn't quite a "Bull Trap" and it almost worked but eventually after trying several times to go down and hitting pockets of minor Demand and failing I decided to call it a day.

Hope all that makes sense !

Thanks
  • #579
  • Jun 7, 2016 9:52am Jun 7, 2016 9:52am
GBPAUD Monthly approaching supply zone

On daily supply level on top of another supply zone

I am smelling pips ....lots of them
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  • #580
  • Jun 7, 2016 10:02am Jun 7, 2016 10:02am
Quoting Cobra
GBPAUD Monthly approaching supply zone On daily supply level on top of another supply zone I am smelling pips ....lots of them {image} {image}
Hello Cobra.

On GBPAUD, please be cautious

best wishes
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