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  • #521
  • Jun 5, 2016 12:17am Jun 5, 2016 12:17am
Hello everyone.
I hope the weekend rest is doing you good (if you are resting that is )

some food for thought

best wishes
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  • #522
  • Jun 5, 2016 2:41am Jun 5, 2016 2:41am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. I hope the weekend rest is doing you good (if you are resting that is ) some food for thought best wishes{image}
Hello Akt
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  • #523
  • Jun 5, 2016 5:37am Jun 5, 2016 5:37am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. I hope the weekend rest is doing you good (if you are resting that is ) some food for thought best wishes{image}
I like this thread. I just discovered it and need to go back to the beginning. Just in case there are no answers in the first 13 pages would you mind telling me how you identify your S/D zones, and also how I can find your Videos?

PS. Sent you a PM
  • #524
  • Jun 5, 2016 6:09am Jun 5, 2016 6:09am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. I hope the weekend rest is doing you good (if you are resting that is ) some food for thought best wishes{image}
My thought
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  • #525
  • Jun 5, 2016 6:31am Jun 5, 2016 6:31am
@conom589 & extraw.

Thank you very much for your efforts in answering the question guys. Much appreciated.

Let me be more explicit about my question.

The zones are clearly demand zones as you both pointed out. That is not the issue with them.

There is something else that makes them lower probability and the answer is not on the posted chart .
That was deliberate, posting just the daily chart. I wanted to see what process people follow to decide on what a high probability zone is and what it is not

Please analyse the pair again. see if you can see what is clear about these zones.

Also, please note, i am not implying trading this zone is wrong or right, it may very well cause a big rally. This is purely an exercise in assessing probability.

What I am saying, is that we must work with probabilities when choosing zones to put hard earned money to work at.
These zones are not high enough probability for ME to trade them. There is something I see that makes me say that.
Others may disagree for sure.

Thank you for the effort in answering the question, i know you don't have to, so thank you

best wishes
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  • #526
  • Jun 5, 2016 7:07am Jun 5, 2016 7:07am
if I may ask A ,do you ever break a candle into more than one zone ,and why from your picture is a total area and other is not ,thanks in advance


Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Tiger45. The dollar is an important chart to always keep in mind especially when trading the majors, because it is the "big daddy" of the currencies since it is the currency of the biggest economy. here are some examples. best wishes{image}{image}
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  • #527
  • Jun 5, 2016 7:43am Jun 5, 2016 7:43am
Quoting Bones
if I may ask A ,do you ever break a candle into more than one zone ,and why from your picture is a total area and other is not ,thanks in advance {quote} {image} {image}
Hello Bones.

To answer your questions,

No, i don't break candles into more than one zone.
The way a candle could become "two" levels in the methodology would be to down to a lower time frame than that which the original zone was found on. That's one way of drilling down to seek more accuracy for entries.
The only issue with that is that one can drill down too far and miss the trade.

with regards to the second question and picture, the SZ is drawn like so because there is only one candle in the base. This flexibility is only allowed in this type of instance where there is only one candle in the base.

For zones with more than one candle in the base, like the DZ you highlighted, the zones are drawn with emphasis on the base, looking to encompass the base with the lines.

i hope that helps

best wishes
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  • #528
  • Jun 5, 2016 10:35am Jun 5, 2016 10:35am
The weekly chart shows a pullback to SZ, indicating sellers are in control. On the 4HR chart, a potential DZ failed, also indicating the lack of buyers.
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  • #529
  • Jun 5, 2016 10:46am Jun 5, 2016 10:46am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. I hope the weekend rest is doing you good (if you are resting that is ) some food for thought best wishes{image}
In my opinion because Weekly Supply is in control and we are to high for buy.

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  • #530
  • Edited 11:53am Jun 5, 2016 11:17am | Edited 11:53am
yea it helps ,with regard to dropping down,sometimes its easier to read things higher and mark zones ,same conclusion 9300 would be a bear problem ,
am I right to say this d1 closed in fresh demand? ,and how do you read the curve on monthly which looks tricky,have i marked demand correctly


Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Bones. To answer your questions, No, i don't break candles into more than one zone. The way a candle could become "two" levels in the methodology would be to down to a lower time frame than that which the original zone was found on. That's one way of drilling down to seek more accuracy for entries. The only issue with that is that one can drill down too far and miss the trade. with regards to the second question and picture, the SZ is drawn like so because there is only one candle in the base. This flexibility is only allowed in this...
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  • #531
  • Jun 5, 2016 11:29am Jun 5, 2016 11:29am
[highlight=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]Thanks for your sharing.[/highlight]
[highlight=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]how do you define sd zone and sell/buy area?what difference between them?[/highlight]
  • #532
  • Jun 5, 2016 12:22pm Jun 5, 2016 12:22pm
Charts don't always conform so easily to our way of seeing and I had a couple questions as to the application of rules to this M AUDUSD.

Thank you, kindly

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  • #533
  • Jun 5, 2016 12:34pm Jun 5, 2016 12:34pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone. I hope the weekend rest is doing you good (if you are resting that is ) some food for thought best wishes{image}
High on Curve and buying into W Supply is not a good ideal
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Also, D Momentum TL was broken, confirming W Sz in control
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  • #534
  • Jun 5, 2016 12:48pm Jun 5, 2016 12:48pm
Quoting MadMojosss
{quote} In my opinion because Weekly Supply is in control and we are to high for buy. {image} {image} Cheers! Mauro
@MadMojosss

You are correct.

My goal was to highlight to importance of multiple time frame analysis.

Those demand zones look really excellent when we only look at them on the daily, without referencing the other two charts in the time sequence above the daily time frame ie the weekly and the monthly.

Depending on how one draws the monthly supply zones, those demand zones are either inside monthly demand or just outside of it.

They reason they are not high probability is because they are too high relative to higher time frame levels.

thank you all for being good sports and giving the puzzle a good go. Much appreciated

best wishes
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  • #535
  • Jun 5, 2016 12:49pm Jun 5, 2016 12:49pm
Quoting livindaylite
{quote} High on Curve and buying into W Supply is not a good ideal {image} Also, D Momentum TL was broken, confirming W Sz in control {image}

Correct Livingdaylite.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #536
  • Jun 5, 2016 12:59pm Jun 5, 2016 12:59pm
Quoting livindaylite
Charts don't always conform so easily to our way of seeing and I had a couple questions as to the application of rules to this M AUDUSD. Thank you, kindly {image}
Hello livingdaylite.

Please see below

best wishes
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  • #537
  • Jun 5, 2016 1:06pm Jun 5, 2016 1:06pm
Quoting Bones
yea it helps ,with regard to dropping down,sometimes its easier to read things higher and mark zones ,same conclusion 9300 would be a bear problem , am I right to say this d1 closed in fresh demand? ,and how do you read the curve on monthly which looks tricky,have i marked demand correctly {quote} {image}
Hello Bones,

Correct, that is fresh Demand. However, it is not one to bet the farm on when you reference the other timeframes

Here is the monthly curve for DXY Bones

best wishes
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  • #538
  • Jun 5, 2016 1:11pm Jun 5, 2016 1:11pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello livingdaylite. Please see below best wishes{image}
Aha!

Thank you, Akt
  • #539
  • Edited 3:34pm Jun 5, 2016 3:17pm | Edited 3:34pm
Thanks A
demand is that way down there ? how do we deal with the other look left the rally took
I know what your saying about current weekly/daily ,might be thats false consolidation pattern ,
since in candles its potentially bullish w1,requires demand to hold next,and could keep current range intact
put it this way if this month outright failed you only need one button for some time ,
monthly over weekly

Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Bones, Correct, that is fresh Demand. However, it is not one to bet the farm on when you reference the other timeframes Here is the monthly curve for DXY Bones best wishes{image}
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  • #540
  • Jun 5, 2016 3:58pm Jun 5, 2016 3:58pm
Quoting Bones
Thanks A demand is that way down there ? how do we deal with the other look left the rally took I know what your saying about current weekly/daily ,might be thats false consolidation pattern , since in candles its potentially bullish w1,requires demand to hold next,and could keep current range intact put it this way if this month outright failed you only need one button for some time , monthly over weekly {quote} {image}
Ah bones, in the S.A.D methodology, one of the rules is we NEVER cut across candles when determining zones.

I suppose the only thing going for that is that it is at or very close to weekly demand which if a trader is using the swing trader time sequence would be a zone to be aware of.

best wishes
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