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  • #481
  • Edited 1:20pm Jun 2, 2016 1:04pm | Edited 1:20pm
would I be right your often looking where trends begin other than fresh ,and the upper wick is now fresh above other price ,thanks
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  • #482
  • Jun 2, 2016 3:09pm Jun 2, 2016 3:09pm
Quoting Bones
would I be right your often looking where trends begin other than fresh ,and the upper wick is now fresh above other price ,thanks {image}
Hello Bones, not quite.

You have it the other way round.
Demand is always below price and supply is always above price.

There are rules for drawing zones, for drawing trend lines, for qualifying zones, entry, exits, trade management, the lot.

If you have time, read back in the thread, it should help.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #483
  • Jun 2, 2016 4:09pm Jun 2, 2016 4:09pm
oh right ,yea I had it that way first ill have a look
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  • #484
  • Jun 2, 2016 5:13pm Jun 2, 2016 5:13pm
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  • #485
  • Jun 2, 2016 6:33pm Jun 2, 2016 6:33pm
Hello,

I'm relatively new to trading (& FF) and quite like the sensible approach of AKT's S.A.D methodology. I am looking to learn more about S.A.D fundamentals and was wondering if I could have the link to AKT's youtube channel? Thank you and happy trading guys.
  • #486
  • Jun 2, 2016 6:36pm Jun 2, 2016 6:36pm
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  • #487
  • Jun 2, 2016 6:51pm Jun 2, 2016 6:51pm
Quoting Zol
Hello, I'm relatively new to trading (& FF) and quite like the sensible approach of AKT's S.A.D methodology. I am looking to learn more about S.A.D fundamentals and was wondering if I could have the link to AKT's youtube channel? Thank you and happy trading guys.
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  • #488
  • Jun 2, 2016 6:57pm Jun 2, 2016 6:57pm
Quoting Denden2012
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  • #489
  • Jun 3, 2016 2:38am Jun 3, 2016 2:38am
Good morning everyone.

Pound trader Day 2.

One trade already kicked off on smaller time frames

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  • #490
  • Jun 3, 2016 3:22am Jun 3, 2016 3:22am
Hello everyone.

GBP/JPY (the "dragon") from a day trader's perspective

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  • #491
  • Jun 3, 2016 3:53am Jun 3, 2016 3:53am
Hi Akt

This looks like my kind of thread, thanks for sharing all the information you have.

I read earlier on that you have some videos on the strategy that offer more in depth details but couldn't find a link to any ? is that intentional ? or have I missed it somewhere please

Thanks
  • #492
  • Jun 3, 2016 4:40am Jun 3, 2016 4:40am
Hi Akt,

I've been studying S&D for a while and see various rules for drawing zones.
Having read your great thread, there doesn't seem to be a consistent mechanical method for drawing your zones.

Can you explain in more detail how you identify and then mark a zone on your chart. Is it purely visual - ie. a strong move after an area of consolidation, that then removes an opposite zone or trend line? Or do we have a set number of candles, certain size of move, candle formation etc. etc. From what I've seen some of your areas I would not have been able to identify at the time, but later on, you can see a reaction and of course we can draw a zone to fit that action. This means that the zone was a real one, but I am still struggling to understand how you can identify them accurately.

BTW; great thread it has rejuvenated my desire to succeed! Good luck to you, and look forward to your reply.
  • #493
  • Edited 6:35am Jun 3, 2016 5:58am | Edited 6:35am
Quoting andys0506
Hi Akt, I've been studying S&D for a while and see various rules for drawing zones. Having read your great thread, there doesn't seem to be a consistent mechanical method for drawing your zones. Can you explain in more detail how you identify and then mark a zone on your chart. Is it purely visual - ie. a strong move after an area of consolidation, that then removes an opposite zone or trend line? Or do we have a set number of candles, certain size of move, candle formation etc. etc. From what I've seen some of your areas I would not have been able...
Hello andy0506
thank you for the question.

On the contrary, there are rules for identifying the zones. You are already on the right track with what you said in your post.

Simply put, you don't want to identify the basing first. Always causes issues.

Get in the habit of identifying the imbalances first i.e the big green up candles and the big red down candles (the color is irrelevant, it could be fuschia pink and torquoise for all it matters )

Once you identify the imbalances, trace them back to their origin, that's how you find the zone. You want to find the origins of the big moves to locate where to draw the zones.

Hope that helps

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #494
  • Jun 3, 2016 7:33am Jun 3, 2016 7:33am
Hi, question on momentum lines. This chart is from page 2 of the thread.
Can you clarify how you draw these lines. See the red circle, to me that is a pivot low and would make the line much steeper.
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  • #495
  • Jun 3, 2016 7:47am Jun 3, 2016 7:47am
Hi AKT,

My assessment of GBPUSD was close to yours, but wrong. I marked the RBR prior to your zone as the origin of the move and considered the zone you drew as a 2nd touch. Guess I need lots more practice.
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  • #496
  • Jun 3, 2016 7:47am Jun 3, 2016 7:47am
Quoting andys0506
Hi, question on momentum lines. This chart is from page 2 of the thread. Can you clarify how you draw these lines. See the red circle, to me that is a pivot low and would make the line much steeper. {image}
Hello Andy.

On trend lines, there are rules for drawing them. See below please

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  • #497
  • Edited 8:17am Jun 3, 2016 7:56am | Edited 8:17am
Thanks!

Do all pivot lows (points used in an uptrend) have to be a down candles and vice-versa for downtrend or does direction of pivot candle not matter?
  • #498
  • Edited 8:53am Jun 3, 2016 8:23am | Edited 8:53am
Good morning everyone, as predicted, all the trades went in the direction I anticipated and hit my TP within minutes with me not on board. Next week will be a better week.

Just one example.

On a positive note though, I am beginning to see what confirmation trades look like in real time and the patience (hardest part for me) it requires to get an entry. So I am learning and growing.
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  • #499
  • Jun 3, 2016 9:00am Jun 3, 2016 9:00am
Hi Akt,

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I use S/D zones for a range bar strategy that I am currently testing on a demo at the moment, which seems to be making steady gains. Although after reading some of your posts, it is clear that my understanding of S/D zones and how to define them is some what rudimentary. I more use them to identify areas on my charts that I do not want to be entering a position in. I am looking forward to learning how you interpret these areas and I am sure to be watching your content on youtube. Thanks again for taking the time to share.
  • #500
  • Jun 3, 2016 10:00am Jun 3, 2016 10:00am
Quoting andys0506
Thanks! Do all pivot lows (points used in an uptrend) have to be a down candles and vice-versa for downtrend or does direction of pivot candle not matter?
Hello Andy,

doesn't matter.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
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