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  • #921
  • May 31, 2016 2:51am May 31, 2016 2:51am
Quoting cmhoahongxan
{quote} Could you share your setting & and your optimization for this ea?
Is the attachment not clear?
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  • #922
  • May 31, 2016 2:55am May 31, 2016 2:55am
Ok egosuma, i think you can try to code rsi filter with settings to allow trade between rsi range and period :-) Let we know
Happy pigging :-)
Mat
  • #923
  • May 31, 2016 3:54am May 31, 2016 3:54am
Quoting mattomatteo
Ok egosuma, i think you can try to code rsi filter with settings to allow trade between rsi range and period :-) Let we know Happy pigging :-) Mat
I can help testing... I cannot programm
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  • #924
  • May 31, 2016 5:08am May 31, 2016 5:08am
Quoting airu
seems interesting strategy! however, in my case, this EA is not working and never opened a trade until now. Other EA can work but this cant. does anyone know how to solve this problem?
I think you need to actually read the thread and understand how the EA works. Possibly even post #1 will tell you.

You are likely not having open trades because it trades on round numbers. It is simply waiting for a price to hit.

Daniel
  • #925
  • May 31, 2016 5:15am May 31, 2016 5:15am
Quoting Edorenta
Quick insight at what the settings are going to look like on Piggy_MOD which is a reworked version (from scratch) of the EA, full of new settings and filters such as the ability to use pending orders, basket trailing, dynamic money management and scaling options... and much more. A stable release can be expected around the end of the week as unfortunately I work on many other projects aside Keep in mind that the very idea of this version is to anhilate the DD through trend / cycles recognition {image}
Whatever happened to this Edorenta? Have you given up on this project?

Many Thanks & Best Regards,

Daniel
  • #926
  • May 31, 2016 7:10am May 31, 2016 7:10am
Quoting happytrade38
{quote} hi tundex, based on your observation, what's the maximum DD based on setting 0.5 round number and 100 TP for the past 20 days?

Sorry for replying late. The maximum DD I noticed was around 50% current DD.
  • #927
  • May 31, 2016 7:41am May 31, 2016 7:41am
So far today has also been pretty succesfull. Lots of volatility.
I do notice however, that a limited DD does not safe-guard from a margin call.
Depending on how the broker implements margin-requirements.

On the demo account, my broker gives margin requirements based on the lots.
Since there are both buy and sell positions open, the DD can be limited, but the margin-requirements can still shoot up.

Unsure how I could backtest for margin requirements. Anyone have an idea?
This would help determining the deposit you would need.
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  • #928
  • Jun 1, 2016 11:43pm Jun 1, 2016 11:43pm
Quoting Invermac
{quote} Hello FXCyborg, sure here you go. Put the set in GBPJPY and USDJPY chart, then leave the Piggy 24hours working. Is in .txt, delete this and have the .Set. use piggy n the middle v4 nice day {file}
Can the setting start trading from 100 usd?
Because it's really working great in my demo and wanna trade in mini live account from now on
  • #929
  • Jun 2, 2016 12:51am Jun 2, 2016 12:51am
Quoting airu
{quote} Can the setting start trading from 100 usd? Because it's really working great in my demo and wanna trade in mini live account from now on
Hello Airu,

Yes, I think using 100usd in micro account is equal to have $10,000usd in standar account so you can try. My demo account start 9 of May and it have 38% of profit along this month and many news that have big drawdowns but like shiva say, only need to be patient and resist this DD.

I will star too a mini account with 100usd soon.

Regards
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  • #930
  • Jun 2, 2016 1:58am Jun 2, 2016 1:58am
Quoting Invermac
{quote} Hello Airu, Yes, I think using 100usd in micro account is equal to have $10,000usd in standar account so you can try. My demo account start 9 of May and it have 38% of profit along this month and many news that have big drawdowns but like shiva say, only need to be patient and resist this DD. I will star too a mini account with 100usd soon. Regards {image}
Thanks for your reply. yup just bet 100usd and see how it goes haha hopefully it will work continuously
  • #931
  • Jun 2, 2016 8:12am Jun 2, 2016 8:12am
I am using micro account in forward testing.
With "save" settings, where in a 6-year backtest the DD was never higher than 80% of the initial deposit, I do get today already 10% of my margin requirements.
Market is trending (today it is ranging a bit) with no retracement yet. So be carefull to not exceed your margin requirements.
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  • #932
  • Jun 2, 2016 7:05pm Jun 2, 2016 7:05pm
Quoting Egosuma
I am using micro account in forward testing. With "save" settings, where in a 6-year backtest the DD was never higher than 80% of the initial deposit, I do get today already 10% of my margin requirements. Market is trending (today it is ranging a bit) with no retracement yet. So be carefull to not exceed your margin requirements.
I don't want to lead anybody the wrong way with my comments but I have ran a backtest from 2000-Present with this EA and for a setting of GBPJPY with 150pips round numbers and a TP of 75 pips, The max DD figure runs at about £6600. Take it for what you will. One needs to also look that this was exceptional circumstances during a period of global recession in and around October 2009 I think?? was the worse period of the backtest. Then things got back to normal. If you ignore this period as it was an exceptional circumstance, the EA didn't do too bad but has reached a DD of about £2200 to the best of recollections. I wish I would have saved the backtest.

Personally, I think it is too much DD for the risk appetite that I am willing to take. I know that DD on average is a lot less than these large and max figures I mention and for the most part it does very well. At the moment, I have better interest in developing something that has less DD and some steady profit regardless the amount although preferably the larger the better. For all of those who are using it live, I wish you all the best! At least I can rest by having you let know my thoughts a few times about what I think and to say I am not trading this one live. If you reach a million, I will accept a 1% thank you gift!

Daniel
  • #933
  • Jun 3, 2016 2:57am Jun 3, 2016 2:57am
please note: DrawDown is not the same as margin requirements.
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  • #934
  • Jun 3, 2016 4:11pm Jun 3, 2016 4:11pm
This weeks results were somewhat similar to last week. Profitable, buildup position and wait for retrace.
Testing really helps ease the nerves, Already feeling more confident in loosing position.
But still I am not very comfortable with the margin requirements. Maybe I am using the wrong pair, GBP/USD has steep margin requirements.

My optimizer for JPY is still running. Will still take a while to complete. So far it has not produced any results that I would be happy with, but its only at about 10% of the total.

here is the screenie of this week:
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  • #935
  • Jun 3, 2016 6:59pm Jun 3, 2016 6:59pm
Quoting Egosuma
This weeks results were somewhat similar to last week. Profitable, buildup position and wait for retrace. Testing really helps ease the nerves, Already feeling more confident in loosing position. But still I am not very comfortable with the margin requirements. Maybe I am using the wrong pair, GBP/USD has steep margin requirements. My optimizer for JPY is still running. Will still take a while to complete. So far it has not produced any results that I would be happy with, but its only at about 10% of the total. here is the screenie of this week:...
Some brokers charge extra margin on hedged positions and others don't.

I have been told that Global Prime don''t but I have not had a live account with them yet to confirm whether this is true or not.

You might want to look into different brokers to whether they charge the extra margin on hedged positions or not. In essence, they should not as a hedged position is one that doesn't have any extra DD as it goes up or down as it is hedged.

Daniel
  • #936
  • Jun 4, 2016 8:50am Jun 4, 2016 8:50am
Update....

April 20 - May 27 =Profit 45% DD below 10%
May 30 - June 3 = Profit 58% DD 21% (kept it running thru NFP)
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  • #937
  • Jun 4, 2016 9:38am Jun 4, 2016 9:38am
Quoting goldcourse
Update.... April 20 - May 27 =Profit 45% DD below 10% May 30 - June 3 = Profit 58% DD 21% (kept it running thru NFP) {image}
Hi Goldcourse,
interesting results; can you share the .set file?
  • #938
  • Jun 4, 2016 9:55am Jun 4, 2016 9:55am
Quoting Bigape
{quote} Hi Goldcourse, interesting results; can you share the .set file?
Bigape,

Sure, here ....
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  • #939
  • Edited 4:19pm Jun 4, 2016 11:00am | Edited 4:19pm
Quoting goldcourse
{quote} Bigape, Sure, here .... {image}
Hi Goldcourse,
many thanks.

They are more or less the same parameters that I'm using on the various cross (with its adaptations).

For now, my results are not bad but often I have DD very high especially in terms of the floating point.

Are now several months that I'm working with the source code that has kindly provided Keydcuk (thanks) but, objectively, are not able to find an intelligent solution to the problem described above.

I made a decision and I built an EA that implements all the functionality of a TradeManager evolved that manages and controls the Piggy, also contemplating the stop of the system when there are situations of Target Total Profit or Stop Loss Total (also trailing stop) . Overall the situation has improved.

Now I'm using my Tablet: later (when at home) I will post on the forum various screenshots.

I think we still have to work a lot on the Piggy: I believe its potential is huge, I hope (thanks again to Keyduck and all for the work done up to now).

We share different ideas to manage the concerned DD (floating point high).

No wonder already written codes, but ideas: then we will implement in MQL.

Assuming it is possible to solve the problem, I do not know yet.

For example: we could support a strategy being strong trend "cover" the Piggy.

Thank you all.

Regards
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  • #940
  • Jun 4, 2016 8:37pm Jun 4, 2016 8:37pm
Quoting Bigape
{quote} Hi Goldcourse, many thanks. They are more or less the same parameters that I'm using on the various cross (with its adaptations). For now, my results are not bad but often I have DD very high especially in terms of the floating point. Are now several months that I'm working with the source code that has kindly provided Keydcuk (thanks) but, objectively, are not able to find an intelligent solution to the problem described above. I made a decision and I built an EA that implements all the functionality of a TradeManager evolved that manages...
Great

I'm all for finding a way out of high DD.
Looking forward to your recommendations.
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